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      Quote Originally Posted by ThAtaInTmE View Post
      Thank you for the advice. I really dont mean to get off topic but what do you feel seconds before SP occurs. I feel a wave of energy that i think wil lead to SP but then it recedes.

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      It's hard to explain if you've never experienced it before. Sometimes it comes on suddenly, and sometimes I feel it coming. It's like a heaviness that you gradually begin to feel in your head, and then in your entire body. Then once you know it, you can't move.

      Again: The key is to stay focus, not let the mind wander. Focus on your body.

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      Amazing Jac !!!

      I tried it & I have entered sleep paralysis easily after 6 hours of sleep by focusing in my head , then after I entered sleep paralysis , I visualized my room & after sometime I saw myself in my dark room ...... but for some reason I thought I had really waken up (I tried to do anything upnormal with my fingers like shooting anything , but didn't work) , so I thought I had failed & went to sleep .

      After I wake up I realized that I did my WBTB when the sunshine entered my room , but in the dream my room was all dark (so it was really a dream , & I wasn't really awake ... I am stupid )

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      Quote Originally Posted by omarko View Post
      Amazing Jac !!!

      I tried it & I have entered sleep paralysis easily after 6 hours of sleep by focusing in my head , then after I entered sleep paralysis , I visualized my room & after sometime I saw myself in my dark room ...... but for some reason I thought I had really waken up (I tried to do anything upnormal with my fingers like shooting anything , but didn't work) , so I thought I had failed & went to sleep .

      After I wake up I realized that I did my WBTB when the sunshine entered my room , but in the dream my room was all dark (so it was really a dream , & I wasn't really awake ... I am stupid )
      Well, you have to find a RC that works best for you. The energy shooting out of fingers thing doesn't sound like a good idea. For me, the best RC is always the one with the digital watch. Some people swear by the finger through palm RC, but it rarely works for me. In my dreams, the finger just won't go through the palm.

      Anyway, I'm glad you were able to induce SP through this method. Keep working on it.

      Jakob

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      I will most certainly try this. Almost all of my LD's are DILD's that occur when I'm in my room, so this could really work for me. Hahaha.

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      Let us know how it worked out.

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      I tried this method last night. I wasn't able to enter SP. I attempted it lying on my side, but found my back to work better. From there I was able to achieve a deep level of relaxation and at one point felt a floating sensation throughout my body. I have entered SP before intentionally before, but on this attempt wasn't able to 'deepen it'... I suppose enough to achieve SP. I do very much like your idea of visualizing what is naturally in your room, its almost effortless. I suppose at some point I should have started the visualization....anyways, I will try again tonight and shall see. Oh and btw, how long does it take you on average to enter SP? most my successful attempts took about 90 minutes. Which is waaayyy too long to be practical. Thanks,
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      Quote Originally Posted by jwest0215 View Post
      how long does it take you on average to enter SP? most my successful attempts took about 90 minutes. Which is waaayyy too long to be practical. Thanks,
      It all depends on how tired I am. In a WBTB it takes me 5 - 10 minutes, at the most 15. But then again, I don't always get SP, which is the problem.

      Sometimes I just fall "through" SP, unfortunately.

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      Sadly when I woke up last night at 4:30-ish I wasn't all that tired. In fact, I was wide awake. I thought it would be futile to try a WILD because I definitely wasn't going to fall asleep in five minutes. Hopefully I'll try again tonight.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jakob View Post
      It all depends on how tired I am. In a WBTB it takes me 5 - 10 minutes, at the most 15. But then again, I don't always get SP, which is the problem.

      Sometimes I just fall "through" SP, unfortunately.
      Well thats pretty promising, 15 minutes at most. I would think, that if I practiced pretty regular, my body would start to get use to what I was doing, and start to trust it and go into SP sooner...at least 'in theory'. Iv read else where on this forum that 1.5 hours is the norm to enter SP, which is crazy to me. Anything that will cut that time down the better. Thanks for the post btw.
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      I havent read the other comments but... When I get SP and enter a dream I always feel like I am slipping out of my body. What I mean is the vibrations just go way from head to toe in that order. Once I even floated to the ceiling and looked back at myself. I know it sounds like OBE but I really feel its a just dream. I wonder if this was common for anyone? And btw, thanks for this. I have been away from lucid dreaming and this method sounds like a good way to get back in. Going lucid from SP is my fav but I never found away to incude SP.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Zeff View Post
      Sadly when I woke up last night at 4:30-ish I wasn't all that tired. In fact, I was wide awake. I thought it would be futile to try a WILD because I definitely wasn't going to fall asleep in five minutes. Hopefully I'll try again tonight.
      That doesn't matter at all. Even if takes 20 or 30 minutes, if you have the time to do it, it has no negative consequences for the SP & WILD.

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      Quote Originally Posted by BluePhoenix View Post
      I havent read the other comments but... When I get SP and enter a dream I always feel like I am slipping out of my body. What I mean is the vibrations just go way from head to toe in that order. Once I even floated to the ceiling and looked back at myself. I know it sounds like OBE but I really feel its a just dream. I wonder if this was common for anyone? And btw, thanks for this. I have been away from lucid dreaming and this method sounds like a good way to get back in. Going lucid from SP is my fav but I never found away to incude SP.
      I haven't had an OBE, or the vibrations from head to toe. I do have strong vibrations, very strong ones, but they are not from head to toe in that order.

      In any case, if you are in a state in which you are unsure if it's an OBE or LD, simply do this: Look at a digital clock in your room, look away, look back, and repeat once more. If the numbers change, you are definitely in an LD.

      I also truly believe that 99.999999% of DreamViews posters who claim they have OBEs, will see the numbers change on their digital clocks.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jakob View Post
      I haven't had an OBE, or the vibrations from head to toe. I do have strong vibrations, very strong ones, but they are not from head to toe in that order.

      In any case, if you are in a state in which you are unsure if it's an OBE or LD, simply do this: Look at a digital clock in your room, look away, look back, and repeat once more. If the numbers change, you are definitely in an LD.

      I also truly believe that 99.999999% of DreamViews posters who claim they have OBEs, will see the numbers change on their digital clocks.
      Yeah I tend to think they are just dreams unless you were to view and able to confirm an actual even in real life. But probably just dreams.

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      This morning was one of my fastest WILD entries ever. I went to bed at 04:30 AM, and fell asleep around 05:00 AM. I woke up around 10:00 AM, went to the bathroom, and then back to bed. As soon as I layed down on my bed, after about 30 seconds I started to feel that "special" heaviness in my head, which usually precedes SP. This made me excited, because that means SP is just around the corner. So I relaxed, mind alert, and focused on my body.

      Within one minute I entered SP, and my head started to vibrate as usual. YES!!!! That means an LD is just one step away! I have the feeling that my head is banging against the pillow and shaking very strongly. I was lying on my left side, so physically I was facing towards my lamp, as well as some other items. As per the instructions on page one of this thread, I visualize looking at these things, from my physical point of view. I just sort of view everything through my closed eyelids, so to speak.

      Very quickly, the image starts to be come clearer and clearer. Within 10 - 15 seconds the image is almost perfectly clear, as in waking life. At this point I feel my dream body, and with my dream body, I simply get out of bed. I am now in a WILD.

      The entire LD was pretty long. The problem although, is that I had a stupid non-LD afterwards which ruined my recall of this WILD. There was also a false awakening, but the dream recall was pretty bad because of the non-LD.

      I woke up at 13:00 PM.

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      I found an old thread on DreamViews, with a method very similar to what I am saying: http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/head-v...n-wilds-44654/

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      This is pretty badass for you man. I think its awesome this works so well for you. I think we are all looking for that 1 technique, or just that one extra piece that unlocks the door to lucid dreaming for us. I can lucid dream, Iv had many, but consistency is my real problem. Stringing them together and having more than one a week ...basically at will is what my aim is, and it sounds like you've got that.
      Keep posting your success, its very encouraging.

      And on a side note, but related, Im still trying out your technique. No success yet. Tonight will be attempt 3 with your version, Ill let you know how it goes. Im pretty sure Ill be able to pull one off using your version. All in time I suppose.
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      Quote Originally Posted by jwest0215 View Post
      Tonight will be attempt 3 with your version, Ill let you know how it goes. Im pretty sure Ill be able to pull one off using your version. All in time I suppose.
      They key in all of this, the most important thing, is getting to SP, and feeling the "head vibrations". Once the head vibrations begin, relax, don't get excited, because it will interrupt the process.

      While the vibrations are happening, try "seeing through your eyelids". After a few moments the vibrations will subside, and you will simply be able to see your room clearly, and move your dream body.

      Best wishes,
      Jakob

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