WILDs seem to pan out one of two ways for me.

I've found in my recent experiences of WILDing that I either fall to sleep very steeply and reach the brink of sleep paralysis quite quickly, I experience a hypnic jerk, my heart is pounding and I then find it very difficult to relax/concentrate and eventually fall asleep unconscious.

Or, I fall to sleep very shallowly, experiencing a variety of hypnagogic imagery ranging from almost free association-like thoughts and images through to auditory and tactile sensations, sometimes even hypnagogic 'micro-dreams' (as I like to call them). I find it difficult to sustain these times as I invariably slip too deep into the reverie of hypnagogia to hold onto consciousness long enough to enter a dream, or simply give up from fatigue.

I have a feeling that there's something I'm missing that could bring success from both those scenarios, any advice from experienced WILDers?

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ya same here, never have been able to cross the magical WILD threshold. But I'm not experienced, it would be great to see the answer for this though.

My closest WILD (happened today) was extremely visual, but I never crossed into the LD state.

How much sleep prior to your WBTB do you have?

5-7 hours or afternoon nap.

I have been successful several times with 1-2 h of prior sleep. It might work, but maybe try changing your WBTB. I am not very experienced, so I am not going to say much, but I have found that changing my WBTB has helped a bit.

I'm going to try staying up longer for my WBTB, hopefully it'll give me more control over how quickly I fall asleep.

Also, I usually only try if I know I just came out of REM (ie. my alarm woke me from a dream).