Thread: When WILDing in NREM, how can you tell when you've actually 'fallen asleep'?

It's quite of a paradox. To be aware of your body sleeping is the same as saying that you are not aware of feeling your body anymore.
But as soon as you try to feel your body again, well then you are by that definition not sleeping consciously.

Just like you in meditation have the idea of sitting and stop the thinking mind, but if you try to see if your thinking has stopped you have to think.

However even though this might sound like something problematic, it is really not. The purpose of WILD is not to know when you have fell asleep and the purpose of meditation is not to stop thinking. These are just things that happens during the process.

The real end goal is in meditation to get present and lucid dreaming to move your awareness to a non-physical reality (dream).

So focus on that! There is no need to perfect the steps torwards the goal, just aim and go and keep the other things in the back of your head.
Like when I WILD I just focus on imagining something until it feels real. I have an intuitive method of imagine something and briefly see it or feel something.
Which means that I visualize something until I really experience it for a split second or longer.

As I do this I am not aware of my physical (sleeping) body. Why? Because my awareness is elsewhere!

So do you see my point? Yes you should make your body fall asleep, but it is just something that happens, your primary aim should be to move your awareness.

This happens automatically when we fall asleep unconsciously and we DILD.

But when we WILD we are in full control of that process and you have to move your awareness yourself.

I like to think of it as moving my awareness from the physical world to a non-physical dreamworld (that exists independently without me).
But another way to see it is to just think of it as moving your awareness from your conscious mind to your subconscious mind or something like that.

I hope this makes sense and that it has value to you.

Peace!