How should i proceed?

I have been practising WILD for a couple of weeks.I reach the point where i see mini dream sequences sometimes i get caught up in these sequences and sometimes i dont.When i so get caught up there most of the time a sound from the waking life startles and gets me out of the mini dream scene until a new scene shows up.Should i just stay there and observe these mini scenes?Should i try to engage on them? I have read that i should wait for a vivid 3d scene to come by and engage.No such scene for now though.Whats your ideas and opinions on this?

When images start to appear I most often relax, watch them, and do some autosuggestion to make sure I don't lose focus.

If this is not working for you I would continue doing some kind of WILD method to activate more GABAergic neurons.

So i should passively observe them until a dream starts to form ?

I've had lots of WILDS but the images thing never happened for me... But yeah the general approach is to passively observe them until they completely form and you're in the dream.

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Originally Posted by tasinios

So i should passively observe them until a dream starts to form ?

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Yes. Hold a relaxed focus on the unfolding sensations or imagines.

It depends how vivid and consistent the scenario and image of it are, in my experience. If you get caught up in scenarios that start forming while trying to drift off to sleep, more often than not it's either just dialog or the range of experience is very limited, with almost no visual aspect, they aren't stable enough to be useful for much other than more easily falling asleep (which is a requirement somewhat overlooked when people try and WILD, getting yourself to fall asleep is extremely important--losing consciousness in the process isn't always a given).

However, if you find that you are witnessing what would otherwise be a dream scene driven all on its own, only you aren't actually dreaming yet (it's as if all you can do is see and maybe hear, and you are still aware of your physical body and lying in bed), that's what will almost guarantee you success. I typically only get these self-driven, stable, visually vivid scenarios when I just wake up from a dream and I'm still in a hypnagogic state, more or less. If you don't do anything to interrupt the scenes/scenario from playing out, at a certain point you should simply be able to "step in" to what's going on and it'll actually be a dream from that point on. For me, knowing when to step in is something I can just feel or know, there's no way I can actually going about explaining how I know when the moment is right. For all I know I could enter right away, but typically I wait a good 30 seconds and even up to 2 minutes sometimes when I actually have the opportunity to get an LD this way.

When I say to "step in" to the scene, it's not anything that involves the tactile sensations of stepping or anything like that. The scenes are already like watching a movie play out in front of me, from my own first person perspective, only "I" am not actually in the scene (and the moment "I" enter it, it becomes a dream). All I do is sort of will myself to take my place in what I'm seeing and make it instead something I fully experience.

Y'all are lucky I haven't had a lucid yet I be so hyped to have one I do wbtb once my alarm goes off I get really lazy n don't get up makes me mad when I do that

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Originally Posted by JwAtTs516

Y'all are lucky I haven't had a lucid yet I be so hyped to have one I do wbtb once my alarm goes off I get really lazy n don't get up makes me mad when I do that

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WILD (WBTB is almost always a supplement to WILD, so I assume it's what you're trying, especially given we're in the WILD subforum... so I apologize if I'm assuming you're WILDing and I'm incorrect about that) is one of the more difficult ways to achieve a lucid dream and typically considered an induction method better suited for more advanced LDers. That's not to discourage you though, I focused primarily on WILD myself when I first started (DILD got me my first couple of LDs, however). On the contrary, I'm trying to boost your confidence a little bit--considering you haven't had a lucid dream yet, your failure isn't all that surprising considering you are attempting WILD. Keep on practicing, WILD takes the longest to achieve success, but offers the most stable and vivid dreams, and once you know what you're doing, the highest rate of success. That being said, WILD isn't necessarily for everyone.

While I encourage you to keep practicing WILD, keep in mind that you are much more likely to succeed using MILD (mnemonic), DILD (dream, utilizing Reality Checks), or possibly DEILD (dream-exit, less likely with this one, it's technically related to WILD and is a bit more advanced). I suggest you look up and practice using those methods in addition to WBTB/WILD if you aren't already, and I think you will achieve success quicker than you give yourself credit for. They have much more varied rates of success when it comes to the subject of consistent results (for the average user, if you've mastered the method than that's another story), but all three, especially MILD and DILD, are far more likely of giving you your first LD than WILD.