If I'm right then you can either WILD while napping or after waking up after about 6 hours sleep and going back to bed. I don't understand why you can't do it when you're going to bed straight away.
Does anyone know why.
Ta.
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If I'm right then you can either WILD while napping or after waking up after about 6 hours sleep and going back to bed. I don't understand why you can't do it when you're going to bed straight away.
Does anyone know why.
Ta.
Your body still has to be in a REM state. You wake up from dreams 6 hours after you sleep, then it will be much easier and take much less time to get into a REM state as you WILD.
I suppose you can do it before you go straight to bed, but it will probably take longer.
It is possible to WILD before getting any sleep at all. Though I believe the percentage is amazingly low, but I suggest you try once or twice to see if you could be part of that percentage.
I don't get why you can do it while napping, what's the difference?
Good question.
Napping is similar to WBTB, when you use WBTB, the recommended time to stay awake is 1 hour. I think REM is on pause for a while after you wake up, like you can't wake up at 7 AM and then try to do a WILD at 8 pm with a nap because after a few hours of being awake, your sleep cycle will reset itself. If you nap a couple of hours after you wake up though, you should still be in REM. All of this is pure guesswork by me though so don't take it as fact. :P
I was thinking about that but I've heard alot of people saying on here that they've WILDed at 5 o'clock naps and later.
It's all very confusing.
I'm guessing it's because if you nap, you're usually very tired, but when you sleep at night, you sleep because of the time, not because of how tired you are. I'm not sure, that's what I think.
The reason why you shouldn't WILD right as you go to bed is because of how sleep works. There are various stages of sleep, each of which has certain attributes associated with it that affect your body and mind. The stage you're shooting for when attempting a WILD, obviously, is REM. This is because the more vivid dreams tend occur in REM sleep.
It'd be nice if REM was easy to get to, but it just so happens that REM typically occurs at the end of each 90 minute sleep cycle. Bummer, right? Luckily, as the night drags on, REM periods get longer and longer and start sooner and sooner in the sleep cycle. Unfortunately, at the beginning of the night, you're looking at over an hour until you hit your first REM period, and then it'll only last around 10 minutes, if that.
By sleeping for 6 or more hours, you're saving yourself the trouble of lying in bed for a ridiculous amount of time with only the most marginal results to look forward to. Plus, you'll be tired. Half of WILDing is falling asleep, and that's hard to do when you aren't tired.
Hope that helped.
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For some light reading: http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch0..._of_sleep.html
Notice how close REM is, in the graph, after 6 hours of sleep.
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The nap thing is weird. I don't think there's any strong evidence or research out there that explains why naps are great for WILDs. The most logical explanation would be that late morning/early afternoon naps can still tap into the extended REM periods, but I have no sources to back that up. You also have to take into account the fact that not all dreams happen in REM sleep. I'll do some research on the topic today, and post back here if I find anything.
I always try to Wild before going to sleep, and i always feel vibration, hear sounds and sometimes see HI but it never goes into a lucid dream though, but still a fun and interresting experiance everynight and gets me in the mood for lucid dreamin in the night.
It's because the way your brain chemistry works. As you sleep your brain converts serotonin to melatonin. There is a sweet spot where your brain is more optimized for lucidity, which requires melatonin (i think?). Your body is also already deeply relaxed after several hours. There is also a theory that your brain needs to go through its normal dream process before allowing you to take control of your dreams.
To WILD whilst napping, do you have a short (30 minute nap) then WILD? what do you have to do to nap-wild?
You can just do a straight WILD. No extra sleep needed.Quote:
Originally Posted by poot
thanks for helping, everyone
Can you tell me the ideal time to nap during Day time? and I dont need to nap wake up and WILD right? Just WILD right away during the nap? And can you explain REM cycle relation to how nap WILD works even the least explanation will help, thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Mzzkc
When one should nap really depends on the person. However, 1PM - 3PM is usually where the best opportunity to snooze falls into. Naps in that general time do allow you to slip into a WILD without any need to wake up mid-sleep.
Also, I've already explained my understanding of how REM cycles play into the whole napping thing. Just scroll up a bit. It's that long post filled with a ton of good information that no one seemed to bother reading.
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Mzzkc yeah man I have the website psywww and that article on my tab, and I did read your post...
Okay so I got everything going.. this totally helped me a lot, opens the possibility of having dreams aside from the usual night time.
So one last request, could you translate
http://www.psywww.com/intropsych/ch0..._of_sleep.html
into as simple words as possible?
I get that stage 0 is when you're awake but going to sleep
and stage 1 is when HI kicks in, if you're not tired when taking a wild-nap, then do you just stay still and eventually you will go into stage 1 with your consciousness still awake?