S: First, full disclosure: I have never become lucid from doing a RC during a NLD, and I have almost never used dreamsigns. But that's just me:
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E:Thinking about it, dream signs can often be an excellent tool for lucidity, and I assume could be used to heighten the lucid mindset or even act as a good way to create it.
The things is, there are lots of triggers someone could RC to become lucid in a dream, but sometimes an RC isn’t always a possibility -- like looking at hands, checking time, pinching nose etc. especially in public (a concern I think shared by many dreamers ). But given that it’s the self-awareness which you put into the RC that makes you lucid and not the “check” part of the RC, is there really any need to do the physical check IWL when you’re absolutely certain it’s not a dream? Isn’t there any way you could just become more aware, or do you think the actual check is what’s necessary to carry this self-awareness?
I’m not really looking for a way to mentally RC, as I know that probably doesn’t exist -- or else they’re not very effective. And you also said that the RRC is not an effective induction tool in a dream (I know that’s not its purpose anyway) which just leaves me to wonder how you would create this RC self-awareness without the physical, well...RC.
S: Yeah, I've found it kind of amusing the things people do -- or think they must do -- to RC. Your waking life RC can be as simple as looking at your watch, and then looking again, or even picking an insignificant object on the periphery of your vision, looking at it once, looking away, two things that can be done quite subtly. In my case, I wear glasses in waking-life, but never in dreams, so I just touch my glasses to confirm they are still there.
And no, mental RC's are not a good idea, because they allow you to be both lazy and to separate the exercise from the reality you are supposed to be checking. Neither of those things seem very productive.
This is a very good question:
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E:But given that it’s the self-awareness which you put into the RC that makes you lucid and not the “check” part of the RC, is there really any need to do the physical check IWL when you’re absolutely certain it’s not a dream? Isn’t there any way you could just become more aware, or do you think the actual check is what’s necessary to carry this self-awareness?
S: But given that it’s the self-awareness which you put into the RC that makes you lucid and not the “check” part of the RC, is there really any need to do the physical check IWL when you’re absolutely certain it’s not a dream? Isn’t there any way you could just become more aware, or do you think the actual check is what’s necessary to carry this self-awareness?
RC's, for me, really are a tool for waking-life mental calisthenics and something that I think is almost always used after you realize in a dream that you are dreaming, meaning self-awareness/lucidity is already present. So I do think RC's are a thing to be done primarily in waking-life, and are only a handy confidence builder during the dream.
Why is there a need to do RC's? Because they give you a moment to step away from the distractions of waking life and remember that you want to be lucid. They are very useful in getting your head in the right place for your daywork, I think. That might be vague, but suffice it to say that RC's are doing more than just confirming your state; or, rather, confirming your state does more for your LD'ing mindset than just telling you if you are dreaming.