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      Thank you! I've been scared to try proper WBTBs because I'm always worried I'll become too awake, since even often if I stay in bed after waking in the middle of the night I struggle to fall back asleep. I should definitely try though. Thanks for all your help and also for making the comprehensive tutorial

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      It seems here is the place to write about WILD, so here I go. Many years ago WILD was my best technique for inducing a LD , but now because of my sleeping patterns I rarely can do it. This morning I tried a lot of procedures and finally succeeded, but that success maybe is only temporarily. I did wbtb, then laid on my back and count to 50 in order to collect my focus, while trying not to move too much. I must say that most of the time I'm reaching only to this point and give up. This time I tried visualization, but it didn't work. Then I tried my own version of FILD, again didn't work, only made me more focused. My body felt kind of heavy and numb, but not in SP, but I'm too awake to fall asleep while keeping my mind awake, but I refused to give up, I scrolled in my mind through OBE exit techniques and decided to just try to fall asleep while simulating soul pull, after a minute I felt a strong pulling sensation, which was somehow scary, it is like the bad was trying to suck me in, this time I decided to go with the flow without resisting, I end up directly in the dream. Next time I will try to refine the procedure somehow.

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      ^^ Though I certainly welcome any accounts of WILD attempts, this thread is actually part of the DV Academy WILD course, and, in spite of your obvious experience, I suggest you take a look at it, sort of as a refresher course... you might just find a thing or to that will help you with those refinements!

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      I think I already read those an year ago, are there any new information, I don't want to reread it again?

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      ^^ I don't keep track of who has read the course and when. By your post I had assumed you had not taken the course. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Good luck

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      Don't worry, just found bunch of useful new tricks on a Russian web site and will experiment with them.

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      I wanna ask.

      I want to try WILD but im nervous, i move around a lot and get uncomfortable easy, do i have to stay still?
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      ^^ You should stay still, but occasionally shifting positions is better than going nuts struggling to stay still. Though lying on your back is the most desirable position for a WILD (because it generally takes a bit longer to fall asleep in that position, giving you a little more time on the fence between wake and sleep to better manage your WILD transition -- it's meant, in other words to be a little uncomfortable), if you find yourself unable to stay on your back at all, then pick a position that is more tolerable. Then do your best to hold that position without fretting about it.

      In other words, if you need to move during a WILD, then move. The real thing you're supposed to hold steady during a WILD is your focus and your waking-life self-awareness. If you can maintain that stuff while occasionally moving, then you will still have a chance to success. However, if you become distracted by discomfort because you're struggling to remain still, you will surely fail at your WILD attempt. Calm focus is much more important than holding perfectly still.

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      Trying the April competition to get in the groove of practicing all the lucid dreaming techniques more actively and focusing on lucid dreaming (rather than dreaming), I figured the results were lacking, haha. I’m thinking I won’t just rely on the competition and instead come to the academy part of DV.

      I have been revisiting some of your classes since they’ve begun. For example, I have been practicing the reverse reality checks when it crosses my mind. Yet, I’ve always struggled to clearly understand them.
      Now, as I’m reading about the Major Arcana of tarot and meditating over their significance, I think I’ve seen an analogy between RRCs and The Priestess. She comes second after The Magician (which we could say symbolizes pure action among other things). In a way, he represents intent, the part of our soul that is characterized by will and can affect action. This can be practiced by effortless concentration. Now, The Priestess represents the reflection over the pure action of The Magician. In this way, she is self-aware. She remembers. She understands where the action is coming from and where it is going. All of this reminds me of the RRC (wonder, self-awareness, memory, reflection). Eventually, the Priestess also represents the writing of all this down, for example. So, it made me realize, isn’t dream journaling, for example, a practice of RRC if it’s an activity of remembering, of reflecting on your experience, and the dynamics that play between yourself and your environment. In a way, remembering dreams and journaling is about starting your day with an RRC and practicing self-awareness.

      Now, background on my past WILD attempts.
      I have tried WILD in naps and it’s never worked for me. I find it hard to fall asleep, especially if I am “alert” or “mindful.” Yet, doing the April competition, I gave it a shot again and I do have more time for it. So, I wanted to formally attend this course (because, well, succeeding at a WILD would be really cool and even my DILD count is low so I need to give it more discipline). What I took out from my most recent reading of the course is a reminder about DEILD. I think I always assume I am waking up, meanwhile, there’s probably still an opportunity for continuing dreaming. Here are three attempts from this past week to act as a primer for my future attempts this week.

      1. I attempted a WILD during a nap (alarm after 1 hour not to waste time), I lay on my back and wait. I try to pay attention only to my breathing and sense of self. At some intervals, I do pay some attention on my body and imagine heaviness as I breath in and let it go as I breathe out, eventually just paying my attention on breathing and self (my witness). It takes a while to fall asleep, so I also imagine myself moving up a staircase at some point. I must fall asleep around then (but not without losing consciousness, because I am then going down a staircase mindlessly and suddenly my legs stop working and I crash to the ground. The impact wakes me up, I can still feel the vivid sensation and I am too awake to try again. 30 min mark I think.
      2. Repeat of the previous attempt another day. At some point and this is very common when I attempt this, I suddenly feel weightlessness, a bit as if I am floating. I know this is just noise, a milestone and try to continue my ritual unphased. Yet, the experience is quite intense. I feel overwhelmed by it and my alertness rises. Although I think this is a milestone, it’s always my downfall because once the wave passes, I feel more awake and my body doesn’t want to sleep anymore? This time, I got a phone call which interrupted any further exploration.
      3. WBTB attempt. I just went to the bathroom and drank water. I’m scared to do anything more than that in case it wakes me up too much. I lose consciousness but have a DILD later instead. It later ends abruptly and I make no further effort (though I eventually dream again).

      Concerning the homework: (I'm just checking them to make sure I read the whole course and participated on my side).
      RRC, check.
      Timing, I drink before I go to bed (not much, just normally), so I wake up naturally to go pee some time around 6 hours after going to bed, maybe a bit less. I’ve never risked staying awake longer than the time to pee and drink. But this week, I’ll meditate 10 minutes also. Check.
      Noise, yeah, I give it no importance although I am struggling with increased mindfulness after an intense wave of ‘sensations/lack of sensations’, check.
      Forming the dream, check.
      Mantra, check. Funnily enough my mantra this week is “I am dreaming.” My mantra changes often, depending on what resonates with me and this is the first week I use this mantra. I came upon it from thinking questions (ex. Am I dreaming?) were probably useful for me during the day and during a dream because they increase cognitive faculties (I suspect), meanwhile, while falling asleep, I am trying to decrease my faculties whilst keeping awareness of “I” and my intention “dreaming” so it felt appropriate this week during my WBTB attempts. My previous mantra for a while was “Memory of dream (dream recall), memory in dream (memory access during dream), Memory of dream, Memory in dream” but my mind struggles to ‘feel’ it as I fall asleep, just changing it to “memory of the dream, memory in the dream” helped.
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      Using my yet not very refined AFILD, after wbtb. It takes only 1 minute to reach WILD, it felt interesting, began with vibrations, then a floating sensation and continue with acceleration, suddenly it is like I have been catapulted directly into the scene. First I stabilize the dream by rubbing my hands and then start counting (my own) to activate parts of my brain and continue with my goal, to summon a smart DC. I have no idea why to my mind come that name, but oh well it was fun. I start yelling at my all might " Neo-Merlin, Neo-Merlin come out, I'm here". Suddenly I saw something flying in the distance, a magician on a flying broom, he stop at front of the window and to enter he broke one of them. This is first time I see a magician with my eyes^^, when I was calling him I didn't have any image in mind. He was old with pointy hat and long blue robe, his grey beard was reaching his knees. "Yo I was waiting for you to call me", I smiled and in the next 8 minute we talked about personal stuff. That was one interesting encounter.
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      Interesting things happened today, in one or two days I will create a thread about it, as soon as I gain access to deep dreamers, I hope you hop in ^^
      On other hand I got four clean WILDs(only a minute for entry,O_o) for two days, it's partially connected to that, but there is something else too
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      Quote Originally Posted by michael79 View Post
      Interesting things happened today, in one or two days I will create a thread about it, as soon as I gain access to deep dreamers, I hope you hop in ^^
      On other hand I got four clean WILDs(only a minute for entry,O_o) for two days, it's partially connected to that, but there is something else too
      Have you tried PM Spellbee, OpheliaBlue, or Gab about that?
      Don't forget to Reality Check everytime you see this!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lang View Post
      Have you tried PM Spellbee, OpheliaBlue, or Gab about that?
      Should I do this, I thought it is automatically?

      On other hand the day before yesterday have five more lucid dreams and today one WILD and six DEILDs, this was my best for entire month until now Finally spoken with my unconscious mind, for the first time I breached the barrier. I could chained more than six deilds but my alarm was ringing like crazy.

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      Quote Originally Posted by michael79 View Post
      Should I do this, I thought it is automatically?

      On other hand the day before yesterday have five more lucid dreams and today one WILD and six DEILDs, this was my best for entire month until now Finally spoken with my unconscious mind, for the first time I breached the barrier. I could chained more than six deilds but my alarm was ringing like crazy.
      Question? Did you try joining the Permission Groups? Deep Dreamers Here: https://www.dreamviews.com/profile.p...editusergroups
      If you did and you haven't heard back from a staffer then I would PM one of them.
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      Don't forget to Reality Check everytime you see this!!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Lang View Post
      Question? Did you try joining the Permission Groups? Deep Dreamers Here: https://www.dreamviews.com/profile.p...editusergroups
      Yes I did.
      If you did and you haven't heard back from a staffer then I would PM one of them.
      Good to know, thanks:-)

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