^^ "Save the big one" here meant "except for the big one," That "big one" being your self-awareness or the dream itself. Sorry for the confusion -- I seem to do that a lot! |
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Last night, I think I got really close. |
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Follow your dreams.
DILD - 50 | DEILD - 3 | WILD - 1 | MILD - 1
Previous Goal: Air bendMain Goal: Find my Dream Guide
Spoiler for Goals:
Been failing these last 3 days, not quite sure what's going on with my natural WBTB but I seem to be failing at waking up in time, and when I do wake up it's too late to do a WBTB + a WILD attempt. Might use an alarm for a day or two and sacrifice dream recall just to get back into schedule. |
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The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.
No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.
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Right, first go. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
I agree... you were likely never quite awake. Seems like you might have been a mite too groggy to focus properly, or even to gather up enough self-awareness for the dive. Next time maybe sit with the light on, perhaps do a RRC, and remember who you are and what exactly you're about to try to do...and of course do all that without "waking up" too much, which is also a challenge! |
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When do you stop the mantra? At all thoughtout the attempt? |
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In essence you never stop the mantra -- it will stop itself once the dream starts. The mantra is a vehicle for navigation and focus, and you should make it the backdrop of your entire WILD. When the dream starts, you'll know the mantra is no longer necessary, and will likely have already stopped before you realize that you stopped reciting it ... I hope that made sense! |
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This morning I woke up naturally after 5 hours of sleep. I decided to give WILDing a go, so I stayed up for less than an hour. I recorded my dreams and went back to bed. I lay there very still, mentally doing my mantra while imagining lying on the beach, waves slowly moving up my body with every breath. I noticed soon enough that my breathing really slowed down, and it was quite nice because I've never done that relaxation technique before. I also noticed that my hands or feet would suddenly twitch, and I'm not quite sure if they really did or I was just imagining it. I continued doing my mantra for I don't know how long... |
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Set an alarm last night but I guess setting it was enough to fix my WBTB schedule, I naturally woke up 8 minutes before it went off and stayed up for about 20-25 before going back to bed and attempting a WILD. |
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Check out my DreamViews Podcast with OpheliaBlue!
The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.
No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.
Last night was even worse, I woke myself too much this time. Woke again through autosuggestion at 4:10, stayed up 30 minutes reading. Didn't feel like falling asleep and quickly gave up. |
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Last edited by Ctharlhie; 06-24-2012 at 02:50 PM.
My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
Yep, I get that a lot -- including from myself. |
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Sounds like your body had no interest in taking you to dreamland today, RareCola! I have a feeling that if you had toughed it out, you would have just gotten up, fallen asleep, or rolled over. Sometimes nature wins. |
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I have a feeling that this class might just evolve into a DEILD class on it's own, Ctharlhie. The mental tools are the same (DEILD really is WILD), and there is so much less work involved! So if we've got all those tools down, DEILD should be much more accessable -- with the same sort of dreams resulting, I think. I was going to open session one of this class saying that WILD is very, very hard -- almost insurmountable -- as I have in so many of my posts about it, but I decided not to be so negative at the start. I figured that would occur to you guys soon enough! However, by learning the hard version first -- classic WILD -- you might find the simpler version -- DEILD -- more accessible ... at least that was the plan! |
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Well today I tried to lengthen my WBTB ,but I didn't wake up so with an attitude of "like hell I am going to give up now!" I WBTB at probably 13:00-14:00 (no I don't think it is a great Idea ,but I thought that I can at least try to fall asleep aware). So I was lying in my bed for some time and then slowly I started to hear a wind like sound which resembled the sound of a flute playing in my ear like it was whispering to me. I then felt like a bobble of invisible water forming in my hand and then it got heavy and my hand became numb. Now my sister suddenly decided she must scream at her friend in her phone so I couldn't really continue from there . So I shacked my right hand which was numb and 'woke up'. Now I am not sure if I was even asleep because my hand could be numb because it was supporting my head (even though my left hand was also supporting my head and didn't become numb) and maybe I did actually hear the air conditioner (even though it was a little different). The thing is that I don't know if I was asleep and I am not sure how does it feels exactly so I can't really tell the difference even though some strange things happened like I for a moment I felt that my hand my hand is beside my body even though I was 100% it is under my head. So Sageous is there a chance I was sleeping durning that time? |
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"Dream your dreams with your eyes closed, but live your dreams with your eyes open."
Is it possible to WILD without REM? My mind starts to wander a lot and I often get mini dreams on my way to falling asleep, which is how I know I'm close to falling asleep. However I'm always unconsciousness during them and they usually only happen when I'm first going to sleep, before hitting the REM stage. Also, what exactly is the "Rollover Signal"? The only time I really want to roll over is when my back starts getting uncomfortable, but I've stayed still for over half an hour like that and still didn't hit SP. |
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Last edited by Triforce; 06-24-2012 at 07:06 PM.
You're traveling to another dimension. A dimension not only of sight and sound, but mind.
A journey into a wondrous land who's boundaries are only that of the imagination. You're entering... A Lucid Dream!
Dreamy Goals: {Confront A Fear} | {Fly} | {FUS-ROH-DAH!!!} | {Summon A Girl From Another Dream} | {Become Link And Fight Dark Link} | {Race In Mario Kart} | {Ride A Loftwing}
Last edited by Ctharlhie; 06-24-2012 at 07:12 PM.
My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
Those mini dreams are hypnagogia that accompany the onset of Non-REM stage 1 sleep. However, lying for over half an hour means you are not falling asleep. You might have read that WILDing is lying still and resisting the mysterious 'rollover signal' until you're magically sucked into sleep paralysis. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
You likely weren't quite sleeping yet, but keep in mind that whether you were sleeping or not doesn't really matter, if you still possessed waking awareness (which you did). However, you asked an interesting question about which I'd never before given much thought. |
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First, listen to Chtarlhie, Triforce; his answer is spot on. |
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I was really bored, at about 2:50 PM, so I decided to give WILD a go, even thought it wasn't the optimal time for it. You can do WILD during a nap, right? Anyway, I laid there for about 20 minutes, but there were too many noises and distractions in my house to concentrate, so I gave up. I'm going to try legitimately tonight, though, with a WBTB. |
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I think I almost succeeded at a DEILD this morning. I had a DILD which ended after 2 seconds of realising it was a dream, so I laid there and tried re-entry with DEILD. I think I came close because I had that same "numbing" feeling sweep over me, and I had ridiculously vivid HI of a tiger for some reason. I think the noise in my house combined with my excitement of almost entering a dream from the waking state made me fail though, because I quickly lost it. |
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Check out my DreamViews Podcast with OpheliaBlue!
The best reason for having dreams is that in dreams no reasons are necessary.
No sailor controls the sea. Only a foolish sailor would say such a thing. Similarly, no lucid dreamer controls the dream.
Like a sailor on the sea, we lucid dreamers direct our perceptual awareness within the larger state of dreaming.
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