Wow; busy day! You guys seem to be moving right along though!
Coupla things:
Originally Posted by Durza
Thanks Sageous, and yes, i think that is problem, what you said makes sense. When I try to do a WILD without getting up after my alarm wakes me up then I lose my awareness super quick, but when I stay up for like 10 minutes, I can't get back to sleep. However, I am not sure how to let my body fall asleep while my mind stays awake. Do you have any tips? Would a mantra help? Thanks!
I have no more tips than what is listed in the WILD Class, in this case (and Kasy and Fly_By_Night's cases too, apparently ).
Yes, a meaningful mantra would help, as would continued experimenting with WBTB "Up" times, but in the end, when you're along as far as you are, the tip can be nothing more than "Keep at it." WILD (and LD'ing in general) really is a question of balance, of finding that sweet spot of self-awareness/timing/physical action/focus/lucid mindset/lots of other things, a spot where you've got all your cognitive and physical balls being properly juggled. And the only way to find that sweet spot is with practice and patience. There's not much else to say about it, beyond what is in the WILD class; the rest is up to you!
I know that is likely not the kind of tip you want to hear, but it's what I got.
Originally Posted by Kasy
And I was successful tonight. Well, kinda at least. I stayed up for an hour, because I tried to see if staying up so long would change anything. While one hour isn't really suitable for me under the week, I wanted to go to an extreme now, because it's weekend at the moment so I can sleep as long as I like. ... So yeah, I guess the long WBTB helped and because I know one night isn't nearly enough, I'll go on with one hour and maybe adjust it a little. I will practice keeping my self-awareness longer with Dream Yoga and meditation.
If there's still something I , please tell me about it.
See? A little experimentation can help! One night of success is indeed not definitive, so keep at it; you may be close to that sweet spot!
Originally Posted by Fly_by_Night
Thanks. That´s what I mean exactly. I go back to bed in order to fall asleep for the dive while trying to maintain waking-life, self-awareness, but then the WLSA (yahooo! new acronym...) gets swallowed up by an indomitable force similar to a boxing K.O. It starts small then hits me with an instant K.O...So I continue being self-aware, body very relaxed, mind relaxed, and then BAM, ....K.O., I'm out. Dont know what hit me, my WLSA is gone, and everything goes to sleep, mind, body, hair, nails, mantra. When I wake up Im not sure how much time elapsed, could be 1 hour or 5. And I´m like...."gees, here we go again, I thought I was diving well, with self-awareness,.... how did this happen again??!"
Actually, it sounds like you're doing pretty well. You could be doing everything correctly, and that KO is just a hurdle that only experience will eventually get you over. A longer WBTB "up" time might help, and maybe a more meaningful mantra, or maybe something else; but you are right there, and might just need a bit more practice and experimentation. Again, I know that's not what you want to hear, but it's what I seem to have today.
I´ve been experimenting with taking a sip or two of coffee during WBTB time, and it looks like it´s helping. So now .... I´m drinking coffee to help me go back to sleep and stay awake while I´m sleeping .
That's an interesting solution; don't drink too much!
Okay, that's enough of saying "Keep at it" for today. Good luck with your next dives, guys!
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