what brand did you use? Can you be more specific? Product name etc
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ya, here it is:
Brand: trophic
Called: Complete Multiple Supplement Complex
Each V-cap Contains:
Vitamin A Palmitate 1000 IU
B1 Thiammin Hydrochloride 20 mg
B2 Riboflavin -5-Phosphate 5 mg
B2 Riboflavin 15 mg
B3 Niacin 5 mg
B3 Niacinamide 15 mg
B5 Calcium Pentothenate 20 mg
B6 Pyridoxal -5-Phosphate 5 mg
B6 Pyridoxal Hydrochloride 15 mg
B12 Methylcobalamin 200 mcg
Folic Acid 0.2 mg
Biotin 20 mcg
Ascorbyl 10 mg
Vitamin C 50 mg
Vitamin D3 Ergocalciferol 100 IU
hope this helps!
i had some peanut butter before I went to sleep last night, and I had some pretty cool dream last night. They where all really exciting and fun, and they where really vivid. My brother also says that it happened to him.
I'll see if it works tonight
Did you eat peanut butter right before you went to sleep? XD
And if not, how much time before you went to sleep? :?
I remember I had a lucid dream because of peanut butter. The day before I only had a tiny amount and I managed to get a lucid.
I think everyone should try this. Peanut Butter + Chocolate milk.
Peanut butter alone gives me mildly vivid dreams, but when you drink chocolate milk with it it gives you crazy dreams.
Nice, I reckon I'm getting quite sensitive to Lucidity due to the workings on my Dream Journal, so I guess a Lucid boost is what I need! :D
Going to try getting some tonight. :goodjob2:
Definitely gunna try that!
I love Peanut Butter, so I'm gunna try quite a few spoonfuls! Then, right before bed, I'll sneak in some dark mint chocolate ;D
I tried eating before bed last night. Didn't have any peanut butter, so I had a few caramel chips and some Brach's Maple Nut Goodies. I had some epic recall last night and 2 lucids, 3 if you count a DEILD continuation, though I did also have 2 galantaminds and a choline. (I give more credit to the food though, because I also had the same drugs yesterday and didn't get lucid).
Before last night I had had about 4 nights of nearly no recall and only fragments, so there's definitely something to this.
I had one spoonful of PB last night and had a false awakening and really, really vivid dreams. I'm gonna have a few PB sandwiched before trying to WILD tonight, should be a tasty experiment!
just bought pb yay shud i eat before i sleep or what? what gave u best results? also i have multi vitamin tablets it contains niacin 18mg NE is this good? whats ne stand for and when shud i take these please reply asap
Peanut Butter gives me pimples.
:embarrassed:
Last night I had a peanut butter samwhich right beofre bed. I loaded it with it and washed it down with some milk.
My dream recall was fantastic. I woke up with 6 dreams on my mind. I only wrote down 3 before I lost the rest. :S
I've already responded to another thread on peanut butter, but i'll repost my post here as it may be of use to someone....
Actually this does sound pretty plausable from a chemical point of view.
Peanuts and peanut butter are one of the food very high in Choline, which we all know is a very important chemical for helping induce lucid dreaming (as it is one of the chemicals required in making Acetyl chloline, the other being Acetyl (which is provided by foods high in B5).
2 Table spoons of Peanut Butter contain around 20mg of Choline, so eating a lot before bed would certainly give a higher than average boost of choline in the system whilst sleeping.
Other choline rich foods are as follows:
Food.............................................. .... .Serving.........................Total Choline (mg)
Beef liver, pan fried................................3 ounces............................355
Wheat germ, toasted.............................1 cup.................................172
Egg............................................... ......1 large...............................126
Atlantic cod, cooked..............................3 ounces..............................71
Beef, trim cut, cooked............................3 ounces..............................67
Brussel sprouts, cooked..........................1 cup...................................63
Broccoli, cooked....................................1 cup, chopped......................62
Shrimp, canned.....................................3 ounces...............................60
Salmon............................................ ....3 ounces...............................56
Milk, skim.............................................8 fl oz...................................38
Peanut butter, smooth...........................2 tablespoons.........................20
Milk chocolate......................................1.5-ounce bar.........................20
Interestingly, the other important chemical needed B5, is also high in peanuts, milk and eggs.
Increasing our Acetylchloline levels is a great way to improve lucidity chances, and there are plently of people doing this already using supplements of choline and other chemicals such as Galantamine (to stop the breakdown of Acetylchloline).
So i'd say this thread is valuable, if only for people to consider how their diet could inadvertantly improve or reduce our brain chemistry in regards to lucidity.
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When people take supplements of choline, 400-800mg is a suggested dose.
(which is a lot of peanut butter!)
So, I'd certinly not suggest eating that much peanut butter alone, because the calories and fat content alone would soon have you turning into a bit of a porker.
However, if your diet already contains other natural sources of choline (eggs, milk etc.) during your daily diet, increasing it with another choline rich food such as peanut butter near bedtime, may be enough to tip the chemical balance in your favour.
As with all things, a healthy balanced diet is always the best way forward, so over induldging in any one food is never a good thing.
What I do think is important, is that people become aware of the chemicals required to help lucid dreaming, and those that could hinder lucid dreaming attempts.
There are often threads started claiming one food or another is the new "lucid dream grail". My opinion on this is more likely than not, those who are finding it helpful, may have a lack of whatever this food contains in their diet in the first place, and the sudden influx of whatever chemicals are available in *insert miracle food here* is what helps them get lucid. So in many cases, the food may have little or no effect on those with a balanced healthy diet.
However that said, creating temporary dietary boosts in one or another pro-lucid-chemical rich foods, is probably a good way to increase ones chances of lucidity. The human body tends to try and fall into homeostasis, so fluctuation to the balance of nutritions in one way or another, could help people avoid falling into a "brain chemistry rut".
All just speculation of course, but I think that we need to focus as much on biological causes for lucidity as much as psychological.
just to put my two cents in to all of this, i have a pb&j practically every night before i go to bed and i have tons of dreams and dream recall. idk if theres a connection but yea lol :)
For some reason, I started eating peanut butter more when I got into lucid dreaming, I kinda assumed it had an affect.
Guess I was sorta right.
huh, im going to have to try this and post back tomarrow!
hope there's some peanutbutter in the kitchen!!
:D
Crap I forgot to do it X_X
I have crunchy peanut butter too,mmm
I'll try this tonight.
Edit: I tried it and I did have a more vivid dream. I could have become lucid too, because in one of the dreams, I said, "I should really write this dream in my journal." That might be not related to peanut butter, though.
Interesting. . .But honestly, I think it is placebo effect, because I used to make myself PB&J sandwiches before bed for about a year and a half as a habit, and my dreams were pretty average. I also started eating peanut butter and banana sandwiches (which I have fallen in love with) because I heard they help induce lucid dreaming, but those don't work either. So maybe I'm just too used to it? I dunno, I just had about three cucumber sandwiches with gobs of cream cheese (<3 cream cheese), and I'll have a glass of milk too. Let's see if downing some dairy does anything.
i think this might explain it. you eat peanut butter a lot so your system is used to it. ive went the whole summer w/o peanut butter then started eating plenty, which helped my dream recall the last few daysQuote:
originally posted by spaceexplorer
There are often threads started claiming one food or another is the new "lucid dream grail". My opinion on this is more likely than not, those who are finding it helpful, may have a lack of whatever this food contains in their diet in the first place, and the sudden influx of whatever chemicals are available in *insert miracle food here* is what helps them get lucid. So in many cases, the food may have little or no effect on those with a balanced healthy diet.
However that said, creating temporary dietary boosts in one or another pro-lucid-chemical rich foods, is probably a good way to increase ones chances of lucidity. The human body tends to try and fall into homeostasis, so fluctuation to the balance of nutritions in one way or another, could help people avoid falling into a "brain chemistry rut".
Cool I will try this tonight.
I read this yesterday and made a elvis before I went to bed,I had a pretty vivid lucid :)
too bad i dont like peanut butter :/