Ask me anything about hypnosis.
Common myths about it.
What it truely is.
What science says about it.
What its useful for.
is it real.
Ect..
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Ask me anything about hypnosis.
Common myths about it.
What it truely is.
What science says about it.
What its useful for.
is it real.
Ect..
Ok, tell me what it's supposed to be like to be hypnotised.
Alright, I have a good question about hypnosis. Are you aware that pastors and other people in religious positions of power purposely use hypnosis to indoctrinate their beliefs and faith into "non-believers" as well as keeping existing "believers" a slave to their respective religion?
My own religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) strongly speak against hypnosis. It's our belief that "emptying" our mind makes it more suceptible to demonic possession and influence.
In the past, before I began practicing my current faith, I used to play around with hypnosis with limited results.
I'd like to know how self-hypnosis is different from other forms. Is self-hypnosis true hypnotism or just " the power of possitive thinking" or some such.
And are subliminal messages a form of hypnotism?
It fells sooo relaxing! Its just like being half asleep half awake!Quote:
Ok, tell me what it's supposed to be like to be hypnotised.
Your brain waves are also very low.
it gose like this
Alpha-Awake, alert
Beta-Relaxed
Theta-SO RELAXED! (SP sets in along with HH, you can make people not see things that are there, or see things that are not there)
Omega-Sleep
My brother describes it just like a WILD. Except he fells anything I tell him he just wants to do because it will make him fell good. lol
I am aware thats what some people believe, and I am sure that this is very possible, and that some religions use this today! And i see perfectly how this would work out. But please let this thread be about hypnosis, and not about religion .Quote:
Alright, I have a good question about hypnosis. Are you aware that pastors and other people in religious positions of power purposely use hypnosis to indoctrinate their beliefs and faith into "non-believers" as well as keeping existing "believers" a slave to their respective religion?
great! I am glad you asked this!!Quote:
My own religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) strongly speak against hypnosis. It's our belief that "emptying" our mind makes it more suceptible to demonic possession and influence.
In the past, before I began practicing my current faith, I used to play around with hypnosis with limited results.
I'd like to know how self-hypnosis is different from other forms. Is self-hypnosis true hypnotism or just " the power of possitive thinking" or some such.
And are subliminal messages a form of hypnotism?
I dont think hypnosis is "Emptying" your mind, you are only relaxing your body, and lowering your brainwaves. But I see why they would think that. Maybe a suspicious Jehovah's Witness could think that some hypnotist are evil entities created by Satan ect.. So yeah... Oh All hypnosis is SELF HYPNOSIS! Alot of people do not know this, I only guide people along there own journey of hypnosis. SO self hypnosis=hypnosis with a hypnotist, only the hypnotist is there, to deepen your relaxation (So you dont have to think as hard). And he can be your captain while your still on the ship.
You are always completely aware ext. just your subconscious mind is open, and unlocked.
Hypnosis and self hypnosis, again its an altered state of mind, that is completely natural! And as I said before, your subconscious mind is unlocked, making it easier to quit smoking ect. Like if you try to quit smoking through positive thinking, it will probably be alot harder than hypnosis.
Edit
This is the stuff I like to do.
Watch it a few times, and you can see basicaly what happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T673AKFmSzg
Here is a video of me doing hypnosis. I sound weird because I am on cam, and my hypnotic voice, is not perfected yet lol
http://vimeo.com/2998420
awesome !!! :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by magical mike
LOL, glad you liked it :D
lol mike i guess i dont need to pm you this question now.
when you do the ZAP technique, can you ask them to give you their hand, or do you need to pretend it is a normal handshake?
I dont think it matters unless you are doing Covert Hypnosis.Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
I let them know what I am doing.
I say this (After the introduction, and the pretalk, and the myths and all that)
I say "As soon as I shake your hand and say the command sleep your going to drop like a sack of potatoes right there safely on the ground" (I say this kinda fast)
Sometimes I confuse them just a little (Remember confuse the mind shock the body) I say "I want you to concentrate as best you can on my voice, do everything I say do, to the best of your abilities, dont give up. and just please work with me. Keep your awakening mind awake, and let your body let go, by shuting of your subconscious mind, and as you do that, remember to just relax" (None of that is important, but because they think it is, it is confusing them) (This can be said before or after this
"As soon as I shake your hand and say the command sleep your going to drop like a sack of potatoes right there safely on the ground"
(because I do not go for speed, I say it after. then I say one more time "(Name) do I have your permission to hypnotize you? say yes. Good'
(I say "Say yes" because I am rushing them and it dose to really give them a choice. If your doing this on the street).
Then sometimes right after they say "Yes" I will partly interrupt them and say "SLEEP!!!" Then my none of voice completely changes, and its so relaxed.. then you continue with your deepening script. then your Post Hypnotics script, then your awakening script.
If I am not felling confident I will hold there left elbow with my left hand just underneath there elbow, and I will hold the back of there had (Suporting it like a baby) with my right hand, and I will have there palm facing there face, and I will have them concentrate on a line, a wrinkle anything on there hand. I will have them focus all there attention onto that spot. And have them relax, and take nice smooth breaths (This is not really speedish) but. after they start to relax I will shock the body by jerking them lightly 3 inchs, and saying the command "SLEEP"
There eyes will close and I deepen them.
(IT IS NOT RECAMENDED TO DO ANY SCRIPTS TO THEM THAT COULD HARM THEM) Like the number 4 deal. Because its very easy for you to put back the number four. but what if this person has some kidna mental illeness? I mean you could, but always make sure they qualify first (This also makes there ego go waaaay up, making them want to seem like the perfect candidate.
Same with people begging you to hypnotize them. Them begging you and you saying no, Makes them already hypnotized.
After a day or to, if they ask again, all you have to do is *look into there eyes with the hypnotic stare* And tell them to relax and take a deep breath in, as they let it out (Without touching them) say "SLEEP!!!" Very loudly, and commanding like! Its so fun to watch them instantly fall to the ground!
Hope this helps. lol thats alot of text!
(Watch that video before bed! And you will dream about it, and you will know it more better!)
Wow, really awesome to read.
I haven't really thought about the 'ZAP' thing before.
How did you learn it and how long did it take you?
and also, could you elaborate on
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Originally Posted by magical mike
oh right, thanks mike, that made everything i was unclear about clear.
ZAP is a instant induction technique.Quote:
Originally Posted by dajo
Its new, and its the worlds fastest that I know of.
I learned the technique in about 2 mins! Its really easy to learn.
The technique is based on these things
-Confuse the mind, shock the body
and
-Confidence, if you command someone who is willing to be hypnotized, to sleep, then they have no choice but to fall down and go into the hypnotic trance. (But hypnosis is not sleep BTW, you can lead someone from hypnosis to sleep.)
I am assuming your talking about ZAP? If so, 2 mins, but the training video is actually 2 hours long. But it talks about every little detail. And its great for someone who is just starting. I started about a year before ZAP came out. and I still watched the whole video a few times, just I knew how to do the basic method in 2 minsQuote:
How did you learn it and how long did it take you?
The introduction, is well what it is! Here is what I say for mineQuote:
and also, could you elaborate on
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Originally Posted by magical mike View Post
(After the introduction, and the pretalk, and the myths and all that)
*I pick the right target firstly, someone who is siting around. Normally at a theme park, when they are waiting for someone to get off a roller coaster is good for me. I look for people who are with other people and there friends, out in the open with lots of other people around (with all these rapes going on, hypnosis could be a scary thing if you are not educated). I mainly do this to guys hanging out with other guys, normally guys who are smaller than me. (This is because if they are with there girlfriend, they would probably not submit to me commands because they want to show there GF are in control.)*
I find the right person and I say (Time to build repore). I say "Hey guys my name is Michael (last name), and I am a professional hypnotist, I am also one of the fastest in the worlds. I can hypnotize someone in less than a second. Do you mind if I hypnotize you? You will wake up felling refreshed and better than before. Its totally safe. you will have a really fun time! I guarantee you. Heres my business card (Showcase something professional). say yes. good. do you have any hobby's? A profession anything like that? Any fears? (They say there whatever) you say you can help them with these. If they dont have any its ok because you can still hypnotize them (More later). *Hypnosis induction here*. *Deepener here*
But I guess you want an induction right?
Well... the original induction is commonly known as the swinging watch that we all seen in a movie or something. this is correct! Its called octal fixation.
It makes your eyes tired. And because your are focusing all your mind on any spot on this watch you lose attachment to your body. (Wich makes you relax). Eventually th person will get so sleepy from this (because the hypnotist is saying commands like "Your eyes fell so heavy you can now, close them when ever you fell ready. In there mind they think you are making them heavy through your words, but this is untrue, there getting tired on there own). Then they close there eyes. and as soon as there eyes are closed (in the kind of induction) they are in a hypnotic trance.
Then you do a deepener.
Here is a deepener I use.
The reason I use this is because it makes there mind focus more on the visualization (the above will is actually a dream in the participators mind! Thats how I give my brother LDs!)Quote:
I’d like you to use your imagination now. I want you to imagine, I’d like you to think about … a beautiful lush tropical garden. This is a paradise and like a paradise there are only wonderful things here … No harm can come to you here. This is your garden, it was made just for you.
You’re lying on a soft grassy area next to a beautiful stream … you’re gazing at the blue sky above … a cloud drifts by and as your eyes follow it across the sky, you feel a tranquil peace fall upon you.
You feel the warmth of the sun, as it cradles your body. The water from the stream bubbles past you as it’s pleasing melody soothes you. The scent of an exotic flower is carried to you by the soft breeze that is blowing and as you breathe it in, (NOTE: take a deep breath in … exhale and say) the perfume moves through you, and with each breath a deeper more relaxed feeling comes over you. A wonderful feeling, a peaceful feeling.
You look up into the lush green trees and at the top of one is the most beautiful butterfly that you have ever seen. It starts to glide, it’s colorful wings outstretched to catch the breeze. You watch the beautiful butterfly drift slowly downward, and as you see it drift slowly downward, so too will you drift into the deepest state of relaxation. So, as I count from five down to one you will feel your body drift downward like that of the butterfly.
“5” ... Watch its wings as it glides down through the tree tops, things are getting hazier.
“4” ... It turns it’s wings to sail with the breeze, you a very peaceful, very relaxed.
“3” ... It soars to the lower branches, you can almost feel your body drifting … drifting on air.
“2” ... You both drift slowly downward as …
“1” ... It lands, and it rests its wings, so to do you find yourself calm and deeply relaxed.
Also when I do this, there eyes go into REM, and you know there not faking or anything.
Anyways I use that above script. And I have one of my own, were the person is in a field.
And he sees the sun, and the sun is shrinking and when it has shrunk all the way, the person will become 1000000 times deeper than they were before.
After the deepender I will then do my commands I want them to do.
Deepening on the situation.
If it is a comedy show, make a presentation that they are all in a cow milking competition. Or they cant find there belly button, or they see a big scary rat on the ground. ext ect ect.
(All this can happen naturally, like when you dont notice someone! Thats hypnosis, or when you get HH for WILDing, ect)
here is a script I use to give my brother LDs after the deepender
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/dream_preprogramming.htm
this is the octal fixation method I described above
http://www.psywww.com/asc/hyp/art/ind11.html
@Zhaylin
About subliminal messages. Yes it is! On TV it is, because when you watch TV you are already hypnotized. Your intellectual brain knows that a movie is not real, fake, probably never happened or will happen, yet you get all these REAL emotions like sadness, hapeniss, and tension ect.
When you see a commercial most of the time, I think they are using NLP (nuero linguistic programing) basically reprogramming someones mind to think or act differently. Much like Derren Brown!
When I say these sentences
-Look at that wrinkly faced dog on the porch over there in Florida he looks so peaceful!
-I have never seen a gray car before.
What comes to your mind?
I think I might know.. (Not sure because I dont know that much about NLP.)
(Dont think to hard, just the first thing that popped into your mind after reading that, it can be anything)
Spoiler for Got it? good..:
hehee... thanks for the explanations.
As for the sentences... my brain is much too literal. All I saw in my mind was the dog on the porch and a gray car driving in front of it.
Now, if someone had dreamed such a thing and asked me to interpret what it could mean, I would have concluded much of what you had written in your spoiler.
Except for gray. TO me, gray represents fog or having your vision obscured.
Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong.
When I was a young teen I made cassette recordings: "You are going into a deep sleep, sleep deep. You will not hear any other sound except the sound of my voice" then I would go on to dictate a dream story and at the end I would say "Awake." It was extremely successful.
I tried using the same technique last night for the lucid task for this month. Only, before I started talking, I used binaural sounds. I used about 15 minutes 4hz theta and then 15 minutes 3hz unspecified. I went on to dictate the dream story with 14-12 hz beta playing in the background.
I went to sleep around 1:30 AM and I woke up sometime after my "awake, remember, record" command then fell back to sleep and woke up completely refreshed at around 8AM. But neither time did I remember any dream at all. I tried my tape again, fell asleep within the first 15 minutes, was woken by the phone. I went back to sleep, fell asleep within the first 15 minutes and was woken by the phone yet again lol. I went back to sleep, no tape, and still recalled NO dream though I slept for about 3 hours.
Do the frequencies of binaural waves I used suppress dreams?
Well, is your self hypnosis tapes makeing you relaxed?
If so theres nothing wrong with the hypnosis part. I think you might be skipping REM or not getting to it, maybe because your body is soooo tired it has to skip it?
And stay in the deep sleep?
I dont think the binaural waves would suppress dreams. unless they stay on all night long and keep you in a DEEP sleep at leavels like Omega.
What scripts are you useing for your tapes?
edit, I dint mean to type Grey car, I meant Grey cat. alot of old people get cats to not fell so lonly I think (well my nana did lol)
They make me very relaxed. The binaural sounds (at the right frequencies) help make me incredibly relaxed and sleepy.
Lately I've been getting of sleep (more than enough actually). I've always had a gift for sleeping (or is that curse lol). As long as I'm not overly anxious about something, I fall asleep within minutes of laying down. Which is why I had come to think I have low-grade narcolepsy. Normal sleepers take time to reach the dream stage. I reach it nearly as soon as I fall asleep.
I'll have to research theta and beta waves and see if they interfer with dreaming. The tape itself is only about 30-40 minutes long.
The story I use is one I wrote last night. The details can be found in the task of the month. At first I tried to simply encourage a simple dream, but then I gave myself the second task and tried to inspire myself into lucid dreaming. ??? But I recall no dreams whatsoever.
lol about the gray car/cat.
hmm, maybe this will help?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhaylin
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/dream_preprogramming.htm
I am working on a recording to hypnotise people to LD, Ill make sure to post it when I am done with it
Thanks for explaining. Wow, you really
go all out in public, aren't you. How fun.
Approximately how many chose to get
hypnotized and how many won't?
Ever had 'bad' experiences with someone?
Thanks for all the effort!
No problem :D there is no effort I like talking about it (My parents get annoyed).Quote:
Originally Posted by dajo
Well at first when my introduction was newly made, and kinds crappy, and I did not introduce myself as a professional, alot of kids thought I was joking.Quote:
Approximately how many chose to get
hypnotized and how many won't?
Then it was about 1/3 of people wanted it, and those were all teenagers who were hanging with there guy friends (And obviously did not have to many friends). (I increased there self esteem :D ).
Now, that I hand out business cards, and introduce myself as either a professional, or master hypnotist, I get now 75/100 people I would say agree to it.
The rest are either afraid, dont know what I am talking about, or think I will brainwash them, or dont believe in it (They think its not real, even though I debunk myths, and say I can hypnotize them in less than a second, I think this is just fear of the unknown as mentioned on the maid DV page :D)
Well there was this one nice ladie who was probably about 30.Quote:
Ever had 'bad' experiences with someone?
She wanted me to make her fell like she felt at her 5th birthday party!
(This is called past life regreation) You just make people think they are 5 years old, and at there 5th birthday party. and they think all there friends are there. Kinda like super super vivid deatials flashback.
Well the girl was all happy and everything, but as I put everything back in her mind the way it was suppose to be, she started crying. I tried to calm her down, and tell her everything was fine, but she was still in her 5 year old mind, she would not come out of it (The point here is not to worry, you can easily put her back it only takes a little effort and confidence, you cant ever let your confidence fail, and you have to stay with the person until they are 100% normal, you cant just run away. (Well I might run away as a joke with my friend after I make him think he is in a dessert and he is dieing of thirst. Obviously he would be in on it, like that youtube video).
But she would not come out of it. So what I did I awoken her, and I did a child induction that I know of. lol it took 5 mins about to induce her. lol. I finally got it off and she was back to normal, but I did give her amnesia to what happened now (Not in her 5th birthday party). So she woke up felling relaxed and better than before, and thanked me for my services. lol..
(I am sure her friends told her what happened).
I'll definitely check out your links tonight before sleep.
lol about that poor woman! I'm glad you were able to get her back to her regular self!!
Yeah, she came out of it, all happy and glad :D She said it felt great! So that was good. I dont belive anything inherantly "Went wrong" But you know :D
wow mike, i would never have the balls to go out and hypnotise people, especially not the groups of teen boys. you see, here in scotlland if you said to a teen boy you were going to hypnotise them, they would laugh at you, if you said it to a group of them, they would laugh, then beat the shit out you.
although, i go out to the pub quite a lot with my dad, and there are a lot of people there who are up for a laugh, and i would maybe do it to them, but not to teens.
p.s. i never even realised it was you with the new avatar, and you dont even have your name in yellow any more so that adds to it lol.
Yeah lol, I have not dont this moneths task yet. Even though I was lucid last night! For only like 7 seconds, then I had an FA and did not relize it lol.
But it will only work if the person belives it will work.
Maybe in scotland, there is a park?
You could put signs up "Hypnosis show" And yell its about to start in two minutes I need some valunteers, (Have your friends with you, incase no one shows up, you can ZAP them. When you start to hypnotise people. more people will start to crowd. Just learn crowd control. And DO NOT LOSE CONTROL of your crowd. you dont want them crowding in were theres not enough room for you. Set up rope on the ground or something
hmm well, i still dont think i would have the courage to do this to complete strangers
Yeah I know what you mean.
Like Hon said, it may be harder to do it with your friends.
But give it a go :D And have complete confidence! The moment you say "SLEEP!" You have to know you are going to command it prehand :D And give a good pre-talk.
Do you plan on doing it?
yep, but ive still not gotten round to reading the booklet yet, i need to remember to give myself time tommorow to read it.
then when i go to school ill do it to my gulibal friend, he will be easier to convince i can do it, and i think ill charge my phone so i can record it, because i want to show him it after.
Ok, but you know people with IQ under 70 are far far far harder to hypnotize than anyone else.
he may be gulibal, but he aint stupid, well at least i dont think he is lol. but ive also got another friend who believes things the minute you tell him, but after a while he questions it, so i could quickly tell him then do it, also, he is like the smartest guy on earth.
and my dad, he trusts me, so he would believe me, and the last time he tested his IQ, it was in like the top 5-10 percent or something, so he has an high IQ, he would be a good one to try.
Ok :D well you can probably do it to your dad right now! After reading this forum, you probably know quitea bit about it!Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
As long as you read the scripts and do not fly through them to fast. take your time, and read there body language!
right, thanks
Well tell me how it gose :D
will do, and dammit, i forgot to give myself time to read the booklet, although i might be abke to fit it in a bit later.
how fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by slash112
I am also very curious on wether or not it will work !!
(Or try your dad and report :D)
ill just like do it in chemistry tomorrow to my friend.
mike does it work just as well when they are sitting instead of standing
Yeah! Remember what Hon said, you can have them standing (And not fall over) By making them lean on your shoulder, or giving them the command there legs are stiff and rigid, or you can have them sitting, (They will probably slump over between there knees, but just put your hands on there back.
(I found a new deepened Idea I came up with!! I dont know if it has been done before. But you know that third eye gland in between your eyes! Well, after I deepened my brother last night, I thought about that gland, and I taped it lightly and said "Focus all your attention right here. When you do, it fells like all you have is a head now! And it fells like your head is sooooo big!" (Because thats what happens to me when I WILD).
And this morning he said, it worked! He felt at the deepest!
nice, is the thing they call the minds eye or something
Yeah something like that I guess :D Its were edorphins are released I think.
I looked it up, and there are a bunch of othe rplaces you can touch, have them focus on your apply presure to that will relax them more also :D
oh right, so is that like how you can tell them to focus on the things they hear to get them deeper, exept its not hearing sense used, its sense of touch
Like when I asked him to focus on that spot *Then I touched that spot*.
And he did so that deepened him, probably because it released even more endoprhans into his body more than normal in hypnosis.
But yo can say "Focus only on my voice, forget about your body, every word you hear me say will bring you 1000 times deeper into this relaxed state"
(Dont say trance, because some people interpret it differently)
oh i was thinking you meant like "when i touch your head, it will only bring you much much deeper" kind of thing, kinda like that voice example you gave just there
Ooh ooh me me me !!! I have a question.
I have used self-hypnosis and have also been to hypnotists who used direct suggestion, metaphorical suggestion and inner-child healing stuff. None of it has ever done anything for me. What are some possible causes? I always tended to assume it was because I had negative expectations, but then if expectations affect the result so profoundly, how is hypnosis any different from a placebo?
Also, my subconscious mind is an arsehole and does everything he can to ruin my life and make me miserable. Can you suggest some avenues* of remedy?
*Or streets/courts/arterial roads...It's all the same to me
Hi Mike, Enjoyed the video clips thanks.
I have read a few books on hypnosis, milton erikson and self hypnosis etc. And some NLP stuff.
I have a metronome, I have sat in front of it and gone into a daydream. would affirmations of lucid dreaming etc in this state prove successful do you think?
Any other fun stuff I could use the metronome for?
The past regression thing scares me quite a bit I think I would get quite worried if that happened when I hypnotized someone.
Davey.
That works, I seen a girl tap on these points and say "Every time I touch these spots you will go 1000 times deeper than you are now"Quote:
oh i was thinking you meant like "when i touch your head, it will only bring you much much deeper" kind of thing, kinda like that voice example you gave just there
And she would randomly touch them.
Well. Some possible cause is probably, you were not deep enough.Quote:
Ooh ooh me me me !!! I have a question.
I have used self-hypnosis and have also been to hypnotists who used direct suggestion, metaphorical suggestion and inner-child healing stuff. None of it has ever done anything for me. What are some possible causes? I always tended to assume it was because I had negative expectations, but then if expectations affect the result so profoundly, how is hypnosis any different from a placebo?
Also, my subconscious mind is an arsehole and does everything he can to ruin my life and make me miserable. Can you suggest some avenues* of remedy?
*Or streets/courts/arterial roads...It's all the same to me
Did you fell relaxed completely? Like you had two bodies?
Or that you could not move? Or did you fell all tingly?
Hypnosis is different than a placebo because hypnosis, is an actual state you enter! To were your subconscious mind opens up! And it fells like you want to take commands from the hypnotist. Example: I took the number four away from my brothers mind temporarily, sometimes I make his eyes un able to open, or his hand un able to move from the table.
This is because I am telling his subconscious mind certain commands, that basically turn off his arm when I say he cant move it.
I suppose a placebo would work, but hypnosis is a real proven state, that can even stop minor bleeding.
Like when I stuck the needle through his hand, I gave suggestions of his heart rate slowing alot, and all the blood fells like its drain from his hand, and I stuck the needle through, and pulled it out, and there was no blood.
I did it again a few days later but without the blood suggestions, and he bleed a little (Like a lancet prick)
I notice that when people are in a Pentecostal church, and they are praying, they get all pale, kinda like hypnosis..
About your subconscious mind, why do you think its being an Arsehole?
Davey.Quote:
Hi Mike, Enjoyed the video clips thanks.
I have read a few books on hypnosis, milton erikson and self hypnosis etc. And some NLP stuff.
I have a metronome, I have sat in front of it and gone into a daydream. would affirmations of lucid dreaming etc in this state prove successful do you think?
Any other fun stuff I could use the metronome for?
The past regression thing scares me quite a bit I think I would get quite worried if that happened when I hypnotized someone.
I am not sure what you mean, do you mean do I think you could WILD from this? I suppose so if the metronome was your anchor to reality.Quote:
would affirmations of lucid dreaming etc in this state prove successful do you think?
If I was using it to hypnotize someone, I would set it just right to were it clicks when they exhale, and I would say something like "Notice your breathing has now matched the metronome (That would be a convincer). Every time you hear the metronome click, thay clicking sound will echo in your mind and bring you 1000 times deeper into this relaxed state" *I would then repeat that a few times*..Quote:
Any other fun stuff I could use the metronome for?
If I was useing it with self-hypnosis, I would just say the same thing to myself, except i would really try and fell how much deeper it gets me
Yeah I dont do it anymore, unless they specifically ask, and if they do, I make sure there is nothing I or they should be worried about.Quote:
The past regression thing scares me quite a bit I think I would get quite worried if that happened when I hypnotized someone.
I think the reason it messed up for me one day, is because I did not have a proper pre talk
Thanks for all these questions guys, there really great:)
what percentage of people are suseptible to the instant hypnosis? And how do you Know that they are suseptible to you? like is there a test to see wether they will fall for it or not?
I felt very relaxed at first and felt like I was melting away and would not have been able to move. On several occasions I went beyond this and began to not feel anything – almost unconsciousness, but I knew I wasn’t asleep. Didn’t remember much of the session though. Both hypnotists said I went down very deeply. When we did the inner child stuff it was a lighter state of hypnosis because I had to give replies. I suspect it must have been something more to do with my negative expectations or my subconscious refusing to change. Which answers your second question... There are people whose subconsciouses seem to want exactly what they want, and seem to work in harmony for the same goals. The sort of people who can do anything they put their mind to and achieve anything they want simply by willing it. Then there are people like me, whose subconscious sabotages everything he tries to do and resists all attempts to change for the better. If you can make someone forget the number ‘4’, surely there’s got to be some way to make it forget to be a prick to me? If my subconscious had an arse, I would kick it. :bslap:Quote:
Well. Some possible cause is probably, you were not deep enough.
Did you fell relaxed completely? Like you had two bodies?
Or that you could not move? Or did you fell all tingly?
Hey Ramma, I think 100% of people (Who want to be hypnotised) Can be induced through the rapid inductions, because it is so powerful!Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
But I am sure, the only reason it would not work is because
-I did something wrong
1.Not haveing confedense
2.not a good pre-talk
3.Did not build enough rapport
-The person dose not want to be hypnotised
1.Dose nto know what would happen or what it fells like
2.Thinks they are suppose to instantly fall asleep
3.Trys so hard to debunk hypnosis even though it is scientificaly proven!
Fall for it? You mean fall on the ground right? Because there are no trickery. Its real, it is not a trick, hypnosis has been scientificaly poven.Quote:
like is there a test to see wether they will fall for it or not?
But I do not know if there is a test. I could do the test were the persons foot is stuck to the ground. But even if there hand or foot dose not get stuck it would still work
well @ paragon
I think this problem is in your own conscious head, seeing as you cant exactly know what your subconscious is always doing! It sounds like your hypnosis session went great.
So then what exactly was your question?
I know what my subconscious is doing because the results you get in life are determined by what's in your subconscious... All your conscious mind can do is influence what's in the subconscious. Anyway, never mind about the question. Thanks for your reply, anyway. :)Quote:
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Metronome.. interesting. Never tought of that, but I will try using it as an aid, to try stuff out. Good idea! :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by YourDreamComeTrue
what i mean mike is. What specific signs do they give off, after you've paced and lead them. that let you know hen it's timeto go ahead with the instant induction?
After they start to relax, and breathe slower.
You can tell when its right.
But I guess any time is fine, because it is confuse the mind and SHOCK the body. So anytime :D
hey mike i bought and watched the zap hypnosis just wondering im gonna ask my sister if i can hypnotise her and give her a ld or something can i like just say sleep (shes then hypnotised) and just leave her for the night will she wake up normally ?
You need to do what Hon says to do in the video.
Here is a sleep script I use along with a dream programing script
Dream programing-
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/dream_preprogramming.htm
Sleep-
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/sleep_easy.htm
Is it better to use self hypnosis mp3's to help you, especially if your new to it?
I think so FOX, yeah it would help :D
Do you do self-hypnosis?
Slash have you done it yet?
ive started, like ive checked it out, but havent found the time to look at it properly.Quote:
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EDIT:
ok, ive looked at it, but by the time i got to the end, i forgot all the first steps lol. so i need to look over it a few times. its the same with Zap, the bit with the scripts and what they are for etc. i keep forgeting and need to look over it tons.
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actually, its not that hard to remember now that i reminded myself.
correct me if im wrong, but its basically relaxation, then visualisation, then suggestions. yes?
can this be used for lucid dreaming? like tell yourself that you will do a reality check once you are dreaming or something (once under hypnosis of course)
Yeah if your talking about self-hypnosis.
I was wonderinf ig you hypnotized sonmeone yet :D
I used to a while ago as an experiment to get me more familiar with altered states of consciousness. I'm thinking of going back to it again, if it's not too much trouble do you think you could pin point me to any sites with self hypnosis mp3s?
I dont know of any. Just google search.. a PIRATE may know alot about that stuff.. but downloading them is illegal you would want to keep the cops at BAY. lol COM..
But seriously I dont know of any, its always best to be hypnotized by someone who knows how to do it :D Its alot funner, and you go alot deeper!
no mike, i havent hypnotised anyone yet, for two reasons. i can never remember how to do it properly, which can be easily solved just by looking over the booklet and watching the vid. but i still have doubts that about it working, which means its not going to work since you need to believe it will work, this will be very hard to solve, because i just know that however confident i may feel like, i will always deep down have a big doubt. would it work if i acted very confident? make it seem like i have no doubts what so ever, or will there still be a bit of my doubt shining through on the subconcious level.
Yes :( well maybe, Just knowit will work, because if you know it will work, then subconsciously you already know it will work because you dont have doubts :D.Quote:
make it seem like i have no doubts. or will there still be a bit of my doubt shining through on the subconcious level.
I found it works best when you have a big fancy cam and are doing it in public! (Even if your not really recording it) It makes people know its real :D
And it shows you are confident!
Very cool. I used to practice a type of hypnosis where I would simply talk them into a trance-like state, then just bring them out. Then they would be extremely calm and grateful, my job was done. Well...then they would come back, with friends. I eventually had a large group at a camp that overwhelmed me, and I stumbled and couldn't get the "hypnotee" calm enough to induce them. So, I looked like an idiot for the rest of camp. That was a few years ago, and I haven't had anyone who wanted it for a while, mostly because I realized to stop flaunting that I could simply calm people to a mind-numbing state.
I actually prefer this form of hypnosis to the street hypnosis because its less of an act. Though, now I wish I learned the instant-hypnosis for camp!
No question, just a rant. :)
ok.Quote:
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Good job :D
when
You should have said no, for a few hours, than "Give in" And there already hypnotized because of the Anticipation.But like you said, you were basically doing covert hypnosis.Quote:
I eventually had a large group at a camp that overwhelmed me
What did you say?
Maybe it would help with my Pre-Talk.
Or were id you learn it?
What did I say when? And I learned it online. :) Gotta love google! And I wouldnt say covert hypnosis...they defintatly knew what was going to happen, its just I don't see the pulling-people type as one that would be allowed in school/camp. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by magical mike
Mike, I have an easier question for you... How does Derren Brown make this bloke act like he's drunk? And can I get someone to do that to me so that I can get drunk and sober up at will?? Even though I don't expect it to work??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zryGzTbU49I
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Originally Posted by paragon
I tried this on my brother, and it did not work that grate (It made him fell difrent) But probably because he has never been drunk.
All derren is really doing is covert hypnosis, and is using a specially made script, that can talk a 10 year old to what it fells like to be drunk.
(Subconscious mind is the mind of a 10 year old)
So when making a script, you make it were a 10 year old can understand it.
If any of your friends new how to do hypnosis, get them to watch that video, and follow his script on you. And it will work.
(But you have to want it to work, you cant test t to see if it will work)
I do want it to work, I just know that it won't. :P
well if you (think/know but it really will) then it wont.
You have to believe it will work..
Well I suppose the hypnotist, could put you in a deep deep trance, then do some convincers, to show its real, then do the drunk part, and it would work that way also.
Are you in a hypnotic state when you enter sleep paralysis and you are consious?
If you are, is this a deep hypnotic state (deep trance) ?
If not, can you tell me how to enter a hypnotic state on my own, cause ive seen around on the internet, still im confused about it
thanks in advance :)
does it work on everyone? I've never been hypnotised but I dont think it will work on me! lol
I think so, it dose seem like it, but when I think about it, I think not because you are losing contiousness, but with hypnosis you keep contiousness (But sometimes yuou go sooooo deep you either fully fall asleep, or when you come out of it, you dont remember).Quote:
Are you in a hypnotic state when you enter sleep paralysis and you are consious?
If you are, is this a deep hypnotic state (deep trance) ?
If not, can you tell me how to enter a hypnotic state on my own, cause ive seen around on the internet, still im confused about it
thanks in advance
You can enter a hypnotic state on your own by WILDing like Lucid dreaming. Lay still, relax, and moniter your breathing, and just focus on it, and with every breath let it bring you deeper
Yes, in theory it will work on everyone, but, thereare people whoQuote:
does it work on everyone? I've never been hypnotised but I dont think it will work on me! lol
-Try to hard
-Wont let you
-Or will let you, but dont want it
-totaly ignore you.
So those are who it will not work on.
it would have to be taken seriously for it to work :D
hey i tried zap out on a freind the other day he is much bigger then me and he was shocked how i just pulled him down with ease anyway he like got up straight from when he hit the ground :/ was i suppost to shout sleep again or something..? or mabye he didnt want to fall asleep outside in the middle of every1s viewings lol
If you did buy this video, and you watched it, you should know exactly what to do.
Hon gose into so much detail, and breaks it down in very easy steps. No, he should not have gotton up, you should have guided him deeper.
:) But at least you got him down.