Thread: Ask me about hypnosis

Ok, tell me what it's supposed to be like to be hypnotised.

Alright, I have a good question about hypnosis. Are you aware that pastors and other people in religious positions of power purposely use hypnosis to indoctrinate their beliefs and faith into "non-believers" as well as keeping existing "believers" a slave to their respective religion?

My own religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) strongly speak against hypnosis. It's our belief that "emptying" our mind makes it more suceptible to demonic possession and influence.
In the past, before I began practicing my current faith, I used to play around with hypnosis with limited results.
I'd like to know how self-hypnosis is different from other forms. Is self-hypnosis true hypnotism or just " the power of possitive thinking" or some such.
And are subliminal messages a form of hypnotism?

Ok, tell me what it's supposed to be like to be hypnotised.

It fells sooo relaxing! Its just like being half asleep half awake!
Your brain waves are also very low.
it gose like this
Alpha-Awake, alert
Beta-Relaxed
Theta-SO RELAXED! (SP sets in along with HH, you can make people not see things that are there, or see things that are not there)
Omega-Sleep
My brother describes it just like a WILD. Except he fells anything I tell him he just wants to do because it will make him fell good. lol

Alright, I have a good question about hypnosis. Are you aware that pastors and other people in religious positions of power purposely use hypnosis to indoctrinate their beliefs and faith into "non-believers" as well as keeping existing "believers" a slave to their respective religion?

I am aware thats what some people believe, and I am sure that this is very possible, and that some religions use this today! And i see perfectly how this would work out. But please let this thread be about hypnosis, and not about religion .

My own religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) strongly speak against hypnosis. It's our belief that "emptying" our mind makes it more suceptible to demonic possession and influence.
In the past, before I began practicing my current faith, I used to play around with hypnosis with limited results.
I'd like to know how self-hypnosis is different from other forms. Is self-hypnosis true hypnotism or just " the power of possitive thinking" or some such.
And are subliminal messages a form of hypnotism?

great! I am glad you asked this!!
I dont think hypnosis is "Emptying" your mind, you are only relaxing your body, and lowering your brainwaves. But I see why they would think that. Maybe a suspicious Jehovah's Witness could think that some hypnotist are evil entities created by Satan ect.. So yeah... Oh All hypnosis is SELF HYPNOSIS! Alot of people do not know this, I only guide people along there own journey of hypnosis. SO self hypnosis=hypnosis with a hypnotist, only the hypnotist is there, to deepen your relaxation (So you dont have to think as hard). And he can be your captain while your still on the ship.
You are always completely aware ext. just your subconscious mind is open, and unlocked.
Hypnosis and self hypnosis, again its an altered state of mind, that is completely natural! And as I said before, your subconscious mind is unlocked, making it easier to quit smoking ect. Like if you try to quit smoking through positive thinking, it will probably be alot harder than hypnosis.


Edit
This is the stuff I like to do.
Watch it a few times, and you can see basicaly what happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T673AKFmSzg
Here is a video of me doing hypnosis. I sound weird because I am on cam, and my hypnotic voice, is not perfected yet lol
http://vimeo.com/2998420

Originally Posted by magical mike

Edit
This is the stuff I like to do.
Watch it a few times, and you can see basicaly what happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T673AKFmSzg
Here is a video of me doing hypnosis. I sound weird because I am on cam, and my hypnotic voice, is not perfected yet lol
http://vimeo.com/2998420

awesome !!!

LOL, glad you liked it

lol mike i guess i dont need to pm you this question now.
when you do the ZAP technique, can you ask them to give you their hand, or do you need to pretend it is a normal handshake?

Originally Posted by slash112

lol mike i guess i dont need to pm you this question now.
when you do the ZAP technique, can you ask them to give you their hand, or do you need to pretend it is a normal handshake?

I dont think it matters unless you are doing Covert Hypnosis.
I let them know what I am doing.
I say this (After the introduction, and the pretalk, and the myths and all that)
I say "As soon as I shake your hand and say the command sleep your going to drop like a sack of potatoes right there safely on the ground" (I say this kinda fast)
Sometimes I confuse them just a little (Remember confuse the mind shock the body) I say "I want you to concentrate as best you can on my voice, do everything I say do, to the best of your abilities, dont give up. and just please work with me. Keep your awakening mind awake, and let your body let go, by shuting of your subconscious mind, and as you do that, remember to just relax" (None of that is important, but because they think it is, it is confusing them) (This can be said before or after this
"As soon as I shake your hand and say the command sleep your going to drop like a sack of potatoes right there safely on the ground"
(because I do not go for speed, I say it after. then I say one more time "(Name) do I have your permission to hypnotize you? say yes. Good'
(I say "Say yes" because I am rushing them and it dose to really give them a choice. If your doing this on the street).
Then sometimes right after they say "Yes" I will partly interrupt them and say "SLEEP!!!" Then my none of voice completely changes, and its so relaxed.. then you continue with your deepening script. then your Post Hypnotics script, then your awakening script.
If I am not felling confident I will hold there left elbow with my left hand just underneath there elbow, and I will hold the back of there had (Suporting it like a baby) with my right hand, and I will have there palm facing there face, and I will have them concentrate on a line, a wrinkle anything on there hand. I will have them focus all there attention onto that spot. And have them relax, and take nice smooth breaths (This is not really speedish) but. after they start to relax I will shock the body by jerking them lightly 3 inchs, and saying the command "SLEEP"
There eyes will close and I deepen them.
(IT IS NOT RECAMENDED TO DO ANY SCRIPTS TO THEM THAT COULD HARM THEM) Like the number 4 deal. Because its very easy for you to put back the number four. but what if this person has some kidna mental illeness? I mean you could, but always make sure they qualify first (This also makes there ego go waaaay up, making them want to seem like the perfect candidate.
Same with people begging you to hypnotize them. Them begging you and you saying no, Makes them already hypnotized.
After a day or to, if they ask again, all you have to do is *look into there eyes with the hypnotic stare* And tell them to relax and take a deep breath in, as they let it out (Without touching them) say "SLEEP!!!" Very loudly, and commanding like! Its so fun to watch them instantly fall to the ground!
Hope this helps. lol thats alot of text!
(Watch that video before bed! And you will dream about it, and you will know it more better!)

Wow, really awesome to read.
I haven't really thought about the 'ZAP' thing before.

How did you learn it and how long did it take you?

and also, could you elaborate on

Originally Posted by magical mike

(After the introduction, and the pretalk, and the myths and all that)

?

oh right, thanks mike, that made everything i was unclear about clear.

Originally Posted by dajo

Wow, really awesome to read.
I haven't really thought about the 'ZAP' thing before.

How did you learn it and how long did it take you?

and also, could you elaborate on



?

ZAP is a instant induction technique.
Its new, and its the worlds fastest that I know of.
I learned the technique in about 2 mins! Its really easy to learn.
The technique is based on these things
-Confuse the mind, shock the body
and
-Confidence, if you command someone who is willing to be hypnotized, to sleep, then they have no choice but to fall down and go into the hypnotic trance. (But hypnosis is not sleep BTW, you can lead someone from hypnosis to sleep.)

How did you learn it and how long did it take you?

I am assuming your talking about ZAP? If so, 2 mins, but the training video is actually 2 hours long. But it talks about every little detail. And its great for someone who is just starting. I started about a year before ZAP came out. and I still watched the whole video a few times, just I knew how to do the basic method in 2 mins

and also, could you elaborate on

Quote:
Originally Posted by magical mike View Post
(After the introduction, and the pretalk, and the myths and all that)

The introduction, is well what it is! Here is what I say for mine
*I pick the right target firstly, someone who is siting around. Normally at a theme park, when they are waiting for someone to get off a roller coaster is good for me. I look for people who are with other people and there friends, out in the open with lots of other people around (with all these rapes going on, hypnosis could be a scary thing if you are not educated). I mainly do this to guys hanging out with other guys, normally guys who are smaller than me. (This is because if they are with there girlfriend, they would probably not submit to me commands because they want to show there GF are in control.)*
I find the right person and I say (Time to build repore). I say "Hey guys my name is Michael (last name), and I am a professional hypnotist, I am also one of the fastest in the worlds. I can hypnotize someone in less than a second. Do you mind if I hypnotize you? You will wake up felling refreshed and better than before. Its totally safe. you will have a really fun time! I guarantee you. Heres my business card (Showcase something professional). say yes. good. do you have any hobby's? A profession anything like that? Any fears? (They say there whatever) you say you can help them with these. If they dont have any its ok because you can still hypnotize them (More later). *Hypnosis induction here*. *Deepener here*

But I guess you want an induction right?
Well... the original induction is commonly known as the swinging watch that we all seen in a movie or something. this is correct! Its called octal fixation.
It makes your eyes tired. And because your are focusing all your mind on any spot on this watch you lose attachment to your body. (Wich makes you relax). Eventually th person will get so sleepy from this (because the hypnotist is saying commands like "Your eyes fell so heavy you can now, close them when ever you fell ready. In there mind they think you are making them heavy through your words, but this is untrue, there getting tired on there own). Then they close there eyes. and as soon as there eyes are closed (in the kind of induction) they are in a hypnotic trance.
Then you do a deepener.
Here is a deepener I use.

I’d like you to use your imagination now. I want you to imagine, I’d like you to think about … a beautiful lush tropical garden. This is a paradise and like a paradise there are only wonderful things here … No harm can come to you here. This is your garden, it was made just for you.

You’re lying on a soft grassy area next to a beautiful stream … you’re gazing at the blue sky above … a cloud drifts by and as your eyes follow it across the sky, you feel a tranquil peace fall upon you.

You feel the warmth of the sun, as it cradles your body. The water from the stream bubbles past you as it’s pleasing melody soothes you. The scent of an exotic flower is carried to you by the soft breeze that is blowing and as you breathe it in, (NOTE: take a deep breath in … exhale and say) the perfume moves through you, and with each breath a deeper more relaxed feeling comes over you. A wonderful feeling, a peaceful feeling.

You look up into the lush green trees and at the top of one is the most beautiful butterfly that you have ever seen. It starts to glide, it’s colorful wings outstretched to catch the breeze. You watch the beautiful butterfly drift slowly downward, and as you see it drift slowly downward, so too will you drift into the deepest state of relaxation. So, as I count from five down to one you will feel your body drift downward like that of the butterfly.

“5” ... Watch its wings as it glides down through the tree tops, things are getting hazier.

“4” ... It turns it’s wings to sail with the breeze, you a very peaceful, very relaxed.

“3” ... It soars to the lower branches, you can almost feel your body drifting … drifting on air.

“2” ... You both drift slowly downward as …

“1” ... It lands, and it rests its wings, so to do you find yourself calm and deeply relaxed.

The reason I use this is because it makes there mind focus more on the visualization (the above will is actually a dream in the participators mind! Thats how I give my brother LDs!)
Also when I do this, there eyes go into REM, and you know there not faking or anything.
Anyways I use that above script. And I have one of my own, were the person is in a field.
And he sees the sun, and the sun is shrinking and when it has shrunk all the way, the person will become 1000000 times deeper than they were before.

After the deepender I will then do my commands I want them to do.
Deepening on the situation.
If it is a comedy show, make a presentation that they are all in a cow milking competition. Or they cant find there belly button, or they see a big scary rat on the ground. ext ect ect.
(All this can happen naturally, like when you dont notice someone! Thats hypnosis, or when you get HH for WILDing, ect)
here is a script I use to give my brother LDs after the deepender
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/dream_preprogramming.htm

this is the octal fixation method I described above
http://www.psywww.com/asc/hyp/art/ind11.html

@Zhaylin
About subliminal messages. Yes it is! On TV it is, because when you watch TV you are already hypnotized. Your intellectual brain knows that a movie is not real, fake, probably never happened or will happen, yet you get all these REAL emotions like sadness, hapeniss, and tension ect.
When you see a commercial most of the time, I think they are using NLP (nuero linguistic programing) basically reprogramming someones mind to think or act differently. Much like Derren Brown!
When I say these sentences
-Look at that wrinkly faced dog on the porch over there in Florida he looks so peaceful!
-I have never seen a gray car before.
What comes to your mind?
I think I might know.. (Not sure because I dont know that much about NLP.)
(Dont think to hard, just the first thing that popped into your mind after reading that, it can be anything)

Spoiler for Got it? good..:

Old people, Age, nursing homes, health, grandparents, parents.
But the thing is, it could relate old, to parents, then it could relate your parents to.. uh IDK something your parents might have did that stuck with you ect.

hehee... thanks for the explanations.
As for the sentences... my brain is much too literal. All I saw in my mind was the dog on the porch and a gray car driving in front of it.
Now, if someone had dreamed such a thing and asked me to interpret what it could mean, I would have concluded much of what you had written in your spoiler.
Except for gray. TO me, gray represents fog or having your vision obscured.

Could you tell me what I'm doing wrong.
When I was a young teen I made cassette recordings: "You are going into a deep sleep, sleep deep. You will not hear any other sound except the sound of my voice" then I would go on to dictate a dream story and at the end I would say "Awake." It was extremely successful.
I tried using the same technique last night for the lucid task for this month. Only, before I started talking, I used binaural sounds. I used about 15 minutes 4hz theta and then 15 minutes 3hz unspecified. I went on to dictate the dream story with 14-12 hz beta playing in the background.
I went to sleep around 1:30 AM and I woke up sometime after my "awake, remember, record" command then fell back to sleep and woke up completely refreshed at around 8AM. But neither time did I remember any dream at all. I tried my tape again, fell asleep within the first 15 minutes, was woken by the phone. I went back to sleep, fell asleep within the first 15 minutes and was woken by the phone yet again lol. I went back to sleep, no tape, and still recalled NO dream though I slept for about 3 hours.

Do the frequencies of binaural waves I used suppress dreams?

Well, is your self hypnosis tapes makeing you relaxed?
If so theres nothing wrong with the hypnosis part. I think you might be skipping REM or not getting to it, maybe because your body is soooo tired it has to skip it?
And stay in the deep sleep?
I dont think the binaural waves would suppress dreams. unless they stay on all night long and keep you in a DEEP sleep at leavels like Omega.
What scripts are you useing for your tapes?

edit, I dint mean to type Grey car, I meant Grey cat. alot of old people get cats to not fell so lonly I think (well my nana did lol)

They make me very relaxed. The binaural sounds (at the right frequencies) help make me incredibly relaxed and sleepy.
Lately I've been getting of sleep (more than enough actually). I've always had a gift for sleeping (or is that curse lol). As long as I'm not overly anxious about something, I fall asleep within minutes of laying down. Which is why I had come to think I have low-grade narcolepsy. Normal sleepers take time to reach the dream stage. I reach it nearly as soon as I fall asleep.
I'll have to research theta and beta waves and see if they interfer with dreaming. The tape itself is only about 30-40 minutes long.
The story I use is one I wrote last night. The details can be found in the task of the month. At first I tried to simply encourage a simple dream, but then I gave myself the second task and tried to inspire myself into lucid dreaming. ??? But I recall no dreams whatsoever.

lol about the gray car/cat.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

They make me very relaxed. The binaural sounds (at the right frequencies) help make me incredibly relaxed and sleepy.
Lately I've been getting of sleep (more than enough actually). I've always had a gift for sleeping (or is that curse lol). As long as I'm not overly anxious about something, I fall asleep within minutes of laying down. Which is why I had come to think I have low-grade narcolepsy. Normal sleepers take time to reach the dream stage. I reach it nearly as soon as I fall asleep.
I'll have to research theta and beta waves and see if they interfer with dreaming. The tape itself is only about 30-40 minutes long.
The story I use is one I wrote last night. The details can be found in the task of the month. At first I tried to simply encourage a simple dream, but then I gave myself the second task and tried to inspire myself into lucid dreaming. ??? But I recall no dreams whatsoever.

lol about the gray car/cat.

hmm, maybe this will help?
http://www.choosehypnosis.com/dream_preprogramming.htm
I am working on a recording to hypnotise people to LD, Ill make sure to post it when I am done with it

Thanks for explaining. Wow, you really
go all out in public, aren't you. How fun.

Approximately how many chose to get
hypnotized and how many won't?

Ever had 'bad' experiences with someone?

Thanks for all the effort!

Originally Posted by dajo

Thanks for explaining. Wow, you really
go all out in public, aren't you. How fun.

Approximately how many chose to get
hypnotized and how many won't?

Ever had 'bad' experiences with someone?

Thanks for all the effort!

No problem there is no effort I like talking about it (My parents get annoyed).

Approximately how many chose to get
hypnotized and how many won't?

Well at first when my introduction was newly made, and kinds crappy, and I did not introduce myself as a professional, alot of kids thought I was joking.
Then it was about 1/3 of people wanted it, and those were all teenagers who were hanging with there guy friends (And obviously did not have to many friends). (I increased there self esteem ).
Now, that I hand out business cards, and introduce myself as either a professional, or master hypnotist, I get now 75/100 people I would say agree to it.
The rest are either afraid, dont know what I am talking about, or think I will brainwash them, or dont believe in it (They think its not real, even though I debunk myths, and say I can hypnotize them in less than a second, I think this is just fear of the unknown as mentioned on the maid DV page )

Ever had 'bad' experiences with someone?

Well there was this one nice ladie who was probably about 30.
She wanted me to make her fell like she felt at her 5th birthday party!
(This is called past life regreation) You just make people think they are 5 years old, and at there 5th birthday party. and they think all there friends are there. Kinda like super super vivid deatials flashback.
Well the girl was all happy and everything, but as I put everything back in her mind the way it was suppose to be, she started crying. I tried to calm her down, and tell her everything was fine, but she was still in her 5 year old mind, she would not come out of it (The point here is not to worry, you can easily put her back it only takes a little effort and confidence, you cant ever let your confidence fail, and you have to stay with the person until they are 100% normal, you cant just run away. (Well I might run away as a joke with my friend after I make him think he is in a dessert and he is dieing of thirst. Obviously he would be in on it, like that youtube video).
But she would not come out of it. So what I did I awoken her, and I did a child induction that I know of. lol it took 5 mins about to induce her. lol. I finally got it off and she was back to normal, but I did give her amnesia to what happened now (Not in her 5th birthday party). So she woke up felling relaxed and better than before, and thanked me for my services. lol..
(I am sure her friends told her what happened).

I'll definitely check out your links tonight before sleep.

lol about that poor woman! I'm glad you were able to get her back to her regular self!!

Yeah, she came out of it, all happy and glad She said it felt great! So that was good. I dont belive anything inherantly "Went wrong" But you know

wow mike, i would never have the balls to go out and hypnotise people, especially not the groups of teen boys. you see, here in scotlland if you said to a teen boy you were going to hypnotise them, they would laugh at you, if you said it to a group of them, they would laugh, then beat the shit out you.
although, i go out to the pub quite a lot with my dad, and there are a lot of people there who are up for a laugh, and i would maybe do it to them, but not to teens.

p.s. i never even realised it was you with the new avatar, and you dont even have your name in yellow any more so that adds to it lol.

Yeah lol, I have not dont this moneths task yet. Even though I was lucid last night! For only like 7 seconds, then I had an FA and did not relize it lol.
But it will only work if the person belives it will work.
Maybe in scotland, there is a park?
You could put signs up "Hypnosis show" And yell its about to start in two minutes I need some valunteers, (Have your friends with you, incase no one shows up, you can ZAP them. When you start to hypnotise people. more people will start to crowd. Just learn crowd control. And DO NOT LOSE CONTROL of your crowd. you dont want them crowding in were theres not enough room for you. Set up rope on the ground or something

hmm well, i still dont think i would have the courage to do this to complete strangers

Yeah I know what you mean.
Like Hon said, it may be harder to do it with your friends.
But give it a go And have complete confidence! The moment you say "SLEEP!" You have to know you are going to command it prehand And give a good pre-talk.
Do you plan on doing it?