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Do you find the alarm wakes you up out of lucid dreams when you use the timer?Quote:
Originally Posted by atkins513
To anyone who is worried about the timer waking you up, he is right that you'll get a lot more transition experience. This will help tremendously with WILDs as this trance state is very hard to practice. But once you have mastered the trance state, WILD becomes a breeze.
Actually, I can't recall ever been woke up by the alarm once i was in the lucid state, but I expect that it can happen so I don't want to dismiss it, but you are 110% right about the transitioning phase... once you master that, LD's come much easier, and much practice with this without a lot of effort (like this method) will give you that experience...
I've been trying to do Wild for a bit now and haven't been that successful but this sounds awesome. i'm going to try this tonight, and I'll post results in the morning. Goodnight brahs
My friends
How many of you are unable to fall asleep within 8 minutes becasue you have to get up to turn on the timer / turn on your ipod to play the mp3? I don't know about you guys, but for me if I don't think about anything then I can fall asleep quickly (like if alarm wakes me I quickly hit snooze and just go back to bed) but with this timer, having to consciously think about turning it on makes me wake up. Well I have the solution for you! I have attached a link to an mp3 file that has a 5 hr, 29 min and 40 sec delay before it plays ramp 4 of the shockcube timer. Play the file on your mp3 player and go to bed. When the alarm goes off at 5:29:40 it will beep for about 3 seconds and turn off by itself. Just try not to move too much and go back to bed. Then use the rest of the beeps to transition into an LD. Also I can confirm that with each interval you go deeper into SP but you become more aware. I was having intense white light flashes and auditory hallucinations of the beeping.. but I was too awake to transition :)
5hr30mindelay.mp3
ah19 Thats just what I need!
I think the OP has come up with something really good here but I struggle to get back to sleep if I do anything like set an alarm so this is just what I need. Will post with results tomorrow
No problem! I will also try the file i posted tonight and I hope to return with even more good news.
Tryed this again last night, Ramp 4, but this time I got up to set the alarm rather than use the 300 minute interval - One false awakening, and two very long vivid dreams that both involved the main character being in a dream. Definatly getting closer, I reckon tonight will probably be the night. Will posts results tommorow.
I set my alarm for 4.5-5 hours after I fell asleep (4:30 am). Then when it went off I opened my eyes, grabbed my ipod and clicked play but I couldn't actually go to sleep until like the 2nd 20 minute interval and I slept through most of the beeps after that. Birds were chirping plus I was too awake, I would just anticipate the next beep on the first 8 4 8 section. Tonight I'm going to set the timer as my alarm on my ipod so I won't even have to open my eyes and turn the volume all the way up. We'll see how it works out. Oh and wut the heck does SP mean? Sorry, I'm new
EDIT: Today I'm going to listen to the beeps and say to myself that I'm dreaming so hopefully when the alarm goes off I'm in a dream and I can just go lucid right away.
Solid, I agree with you. I think tonight (tomorrow morning?) will be the night (morning? :P).
Swolebrah, try downloading the file I uploaded in post 79 and read the instructions in that post. You won't have to get up at all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by swolebrah
I would download that one but I think I can create the same effect with just setting my alarm on my ipod as the original mp3. I'll set the alarm, go to sleep with my earphones in, then 5 hours into my sleep my ipod will turn on and start the timer, hopefully I remain dreaming :). If it does wake me up then I'll just do the process as it is initially intended. But if my plan doesn't work for some reason I'll download yours fo sho.
i've tried by 5 hr 30 min delay mp3 for a few days now and i never wake up to the 9 beeps that i put in the mp3 to wake you up. im going to switch back to sleeping for 4 hours and turning the saltcube timer on manually. i am going to wake up 4 horus after bed rather than 5.5 hours because i want to fall asleep easily after i set the alarm
I just downloaded Ah's mp3 version, and I'm going to try it tonight.
I was actually happy the beeps weren't anything unnatural, but I now wonder how binaural beats, isochronic tones and alpha/theta waves in place of the alarm might do? Of course I haven't tried it yet, but it was just something that came up in my head.
Im kinda of unsure. Wont being woken up in such short periods of time wreck your lucid dream.
Ok I did a little over an hour of the 1:28 mp3.
In some ways I did feel like I was going deeper, but I never entered sleep paralysis or an LD. But I did feel a lot like I was going deeper and deeper into sleep. I did adjust the volume a bit though. I didn't have it majorly loud, but about 70-80% of my ipod capacity.
I think it could work out though. I remember asking if you can induce SP a bit with periods of waking up like this.
Hey guys!
This is my first post...i will write an introduction later on, but right now im at work so i dont really have the time. Sorry for my english, im from germany ;)
I tried this method yesterday (the 1h 30min mp3 file) and the only thing it did for me was remembering 2 dreams slightly...just a few short scenes, very unclear.
I dont know if i woke up to all the alarms - but i dont think so.
Well, overall i didnt attain lucidity that night. But i also think i cannot expect it from the first try ;)
Im pretty unsure if i should go on with this method or just try the classic reality check thing cause i dont get to much sleep over night (the next weeks about 5-6hours a night i think cause i go to bed late and have to get up at 05:30). My last lucid dream also is month away cause i stopped practising.
Well...we will see :)
Never had a lucid dream but this alarm things sounds intresting, i downloaded it and going to use it tonight and I will post my results tomorrow morning;)
I am going to try this tonight. Hopefully I can figure out how to make my new laptop not auto-off or go into sleep mode while the alarm program is running.
Here is an easier method to easily fall asleep. You won't even have to get up and start the timer. First, DOWNLOAD THIS TIMER, then download the 4 minute Base MP3 that he mentioned in the original post here. Then simply select the 4 Minute Base MP3, set the alarm for when you want it to go off, and go to bed. Then the alarm will play the timer MP3 by itself and you won't even have to get up.
I use this method only because I have trouble falling asleep again if I stay up too long.
I tried the timer and i did 3 beeps and full volume on my laptop and i woke up during the 20 minute cycles so my laptop wasnt loud enough, i switched to 9 beeps and still didnt wake me up with my laptop right next to me. I figured 27 would be way to obnoxious so i didn't try. No dreams that night but I am going to try with earbuds tonight and I will post results tomorrow morning.
I put the timer on my extreamly loud computer and did ramp 4 with 300 minutes in first slot but i went to bed to late so it was sunny out when I woke up and i wasnt sleepy, gonna try 240 minutes in the beginning and go to bed earlier tonight then post results tomorrow morning.
I decided to do a 30 days test of this, cause i think it may actualy work for me. I'm using the mp3 version on my phone and i wake up just enough to turn off the phone alarm for wbtb next to my bed and set this dream alarm. I'm going to try with just playing it on the phone and listening with headphones and decide what suits me better.
1st day: When i woke up at 7 am for wbtb, i felt like it would be an awesome time to do this and i had a perfect amount of sleepiness, but i had to go to the bathroom really bad and couldn't fall asleep. When i came back and drank some water, i was too awake to fall sleep. I did recall 4 dreams tho.
so you say that first we need to go to sleep for 4 or 5 hours.. right? well.. how am i going to wake up? i dont have an alarm clock or anythingg... O :
That timer is from Nick Newport's Saltcube.com. I have replaced the beeping timer with a mp3 of my own voice telling me to "wake up" Its a little bit creepy the first time you hear it, but it I hope it will be even more effective than just the beeper. I'll keep you posted!
what happens if you attain lucidity before the timer is up, wont you get woken up by the timer during the lucid dream??:panic:
Hey Gary :) How are you ?
You helped me get two lucid dreams in this thread: http://www.dreamviews.com/f79/extrem...ttempts-94649/
And for some reason I stopped doing this, maybe because the alarm never woke me up so it felt like a waste of time.
But I have solved this problem now with a headset so I can wake up to a really loud alarm that doesn't disturb my neighbours ;)
And all the other things that I had problems with is solved now, so all I have to do now is to wait for the night...
I hope that I get CAN-WILD lucid dreams again, actually I know that I will have CAN-WILD lucid dreams again, because this allways worked, NO IDEA how I could stop.
I have never had a REAL LONG VIVID LUCID DREAM with controll only short dreams were I just know that I am dreaming, but I really hope that this changes now =)
I use a normal alarmclock to wake me up 5 hours later then a IPOD app with a customized auto-snooze alarm together with the ramp settings.
The first 4 times I wake up I just fall asleep again, the fifth time I am almost guaranteed in sleep paralysis, so here I DEILD from your visualization tip and if this also fail I just go back to sleep and maybe wake up in the dream instead. And I also have a sleepmask for my movementfree realitycheck.
I keep you posted x) See you tomorrow !