Help with WILD again...

I know there's alot of posts regarding WILD, but I tried every method and it won't work. I was able to WILD before, but like this whole month I can't WILD. I keep trying, WILDing after waking up in the middle of the night, WILDing in a nap, WILDing before I go to bed at 11:00 PM, but it doesn't work like it did before. I keep sort of falling asleep in the middle of attempting WILD. I tried counting, and tried to stay conscious, but I keep getting mislead by random thoughts and I trail off to sleep. Do you have any suggestions?

Try putting a clock or something that makes a clicking sound, or you can try listening to music, I don't think that will affect it, but I did read about someone who put a ticking clock right by them, and people who listen to there heart beat

Hey tryagain,

I pretty much try WILD every time I go to bed (I just don't trust myself being able to do reality checks in a dream). I chatted with a member here who says he can LD anytime he wants. One thing he suggested is meditation (I guess it's like doing excersise for your mind).

Anyway, I'm still new at the meditation thing, but the following method that I try has helped me 1) fall asleep faster 2) get to experience some of the early stages of WILD (weird imagery, numbness, spinning room, etc). I still haven't had an LD from trying this, but has shown signs of SOMETHING happening. I've also had better recall, but I'm not sure if that's related.

Sleep procedure:

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2) Keep eyes closed at all costs, I roll up a hand towel and lay it across my eyes (you'd be suprized at how you might "slip" and open your eyes)

3) Push away any thoughts that you hear in your head - try to make your mind "silent". I've found that - at least my mind - has a certain "pitch" sound that I only hear if it's completely quiet.

4) Be aware of every inch of your body. This is a weird one, but the best way to describe it is to imagine someone running a scanner over your body. Starting at your feet, and slowly "scanning" up to your head. Feel the "scanner" as its lighbeam runs over your legs, torso, arms and all the way up to the top of your head.

5) I've noticed that when I do this correctly, I'll usually feel a tickling kind of sensation right at the top of my forehead - as if some enegry was pushed up there in a ball (but that might be just me).[list]
Anyway, I just keep repeating the scanning over and over. Eventually, I forget everything that's going on. Sometimes one of my arms will "snap" or "jump" out of place. I think that's an early sign of sleep paralysis which, if you could stay consious while slipping into, you should go right into an LD.

Hasn't worked for me yet, but maybe it will for you.

Good Luck!

I tried a WILD last night. I listened to the pitch in my ears and concentrated on it till it grew very loud in my ears. My eyes started convulsing and i could feel some sort of heatwave along my right ear but that was about as far as I got because i opened my eyes.

Thanks to you joe, I got the vibration yesterday, but I was afraid i'd have a lucid nightmare cause my vibration started out with somebody saying ,"Angels and Demons" as my dream topic. I wanted to start with a peaceful lucid dream, so I woke myself up (it was hard cause of sleep paralysis)***
then I didn't get a vibration after that and I fell asleep:(


***a tip I found out yesterday while having a sleep paralysis, or an old hag, is you start out with breathing, since that's the only thing you can do. Then you twitch the nose you breath with, and slowly your mouth, then your face, and down from there.

I have something to say to all of you

Joe: I used to do that alot well trying to astral project, just because I would get bored and it felt like an electric wave going through my body

kyros: I get the same kind of pitch in my ear, I hate it, I usualy listen to music or turn on the fan because it helps me get to sleep, by the way somethen wierd happened yesterday, when I was getting on it said I was logged onto your name, it said user name: kyros, ya it was weird but as soon as I went to the forums it went away, so I couldn't hack you anyway, not that I would have

tryagain: gothlark suggested a method to me that might help, it's called HILD, just go to the toturials and look for the topic, he now just has LD's willingly by being confident.