Major problem entering Sleep Paralysis.

OK, I'm so frustrated right now. As I've heard, SP is somewhat a different experience for most individuals. I can lie in bed forever and SP isn't just gonna hit me. I don't force it, the closest I've ever gotten to it (I think) is the sensation of my body "swirling" and a somewhat slight "sinking" sensation after. As this happens, my breathing pattern slowly changes and I suddenly loose the sensation. If I lie there still for another five minutes or so, The sensation comes back and no matter how I control it, It's hard because, My breathing slows down and It's like I'm not getting enough air. Not to mention, in this stage. I feel like "the sun is 4 feet away from me". I don't know how close I am to it and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

^This happens to me but instead when I feel like I am swirling I always twitch and then have to start all over again.

It's really frustrating to me. I want to get to the point of SP. I've spent like four hours in bed yesterday just trying to get to this point.

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Originally Posted by Milow

OK, I'm so frustrated right now. As I've heard, SP is somewhat a different experience for most individuals. I can lie in bed forever and SP isn't just gonna hit me. I don't force it, the closest I've ever gotten to it (I think) is the sensation of my body "swirling" and a somewhat slight "sinking" sensation after. As this happens, my breathing pattern slowly changes and I suddenly loose the sensation. If I lie there still for another five minutes or so, The sensation comes back and no matter how I control it, It's hard because, My breathing slows down and It's like I'm not getting enough air. Not to mention, in this stage. I feel like "the sun is 4 feet away from me". I don't know how close I am to it and I don't know what I'm doing wrong.

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This happens with me all the time.I haven't had my first lucid yet but iv'e got very close 3 times.All these times i was extremely tired or was doing a WBTB.You should try doing WBTB.

I've been trying that it's just that when I have the time, I would just relax and try a WILD. I know I shouldn't be hopping all over the place with techniques but, I'm really excited and want to have a LD.

Are you just laying there waiting for sp to hit. If you are you are doing it wrong. You should actually be trying to fall asleep first but staying conscious enough to feel the transition. You stay conscious by using an anchor to keep track of as your drifting off to sleep. The anchor could be counting your breaths, the cloths that your wearing, or just a fan in your room. So as your falling asleep, you want to use the anchor to keep track of so that you don't totally lose consciousness. I think my spelling is off. But keep the anchor in the back of your mind because you don't want to be thinking about it the whole time.

I completely understand what you're talking about now. As I'm falling asleep that's when I get those strange feelings but, when I start to think about my breathing more, and as it slowly changes, I stop feeling the sensation and I have to try all over.

Lately, I've been trying to do WILDS. the last time I did, I header a sound for the first time, a low sound, just like someone is mowing the lawn a few houses away.
Just like NrElAx said, just try to get asleep, but keep something in the back of your head that keeps you conscious.
I've found that concetrating on breathing isn't really my thing, but as I got nothing else, I tend to switch allot and then think about all this crap, so I haven't really got a succesive WILD, but I'll keep trying :)
(perhaps I'll turn my fan on next time)

How do you normally fall asleep? What do intentionally do, and what do your thoughts do automatically? Next time you fall asleep, watch as a passive observer. This should give you some hints about how later to coax yourself closer to the edge.

Yeah what Robot_Butler said. As you drift asleep you'll notice that you will start to think about random crap or you'll think about something and then your mind will automatically take over. The process is really natural so it has to be like that when you attempt to WILD, you can't force it

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Originally Posted by Milow

I completely understand what you're talking about now. As I'm falling asleep that's when I get those strange feelings but, when I start to think about my breathing more, and as it slowly changes, I stop feeling the sensation and I have to try all over.

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Hahah it sucks because right when you notice strange things happening, you wake yourself up by noticing it.

So when I get the strange random thoughts, I don't focus on them I just passively watch or observe?

You're thinking too much. The idea is that you're falling asleep first and foremost, without that SP can't occur. It's very difficult not to overthink it, I usually have trouble with it. I guess, you've just got to let it happen without worrying about what exactly is happening.

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Originally Posted by Milow

So when I get the strange random thoughts, I don't focus on them I just passively watch or observe?

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Yea that's the general idea, but really you don't want to be thinking about it at all. You basically don't even want to be thinking about SP or WILDing, Which is hard to do.