trying to become lucid

ive been trying to lucid dream for quiet some time now. over the past 2 to 3 weeks ive actually seriously commited to having one tho. i started keeping a dream journal about 2 weeks ago and now i remember up to 3 vivid long dreams per night. ive also been taking vitamin b6 pills, choline pills, and calea zacaterachichi pills. now that i have decent dream recall i need help attaining lucidity. i also do a ton of reality checks during waking life. ive read many tutorials but i want an answer directed towards me. the problems i have while trying to have a lucid dream are as follows:
when i try a MILD i always end up falling asleep before i begin visualizing. (fall asleep while i do lucid affirmations) and when i wake up out of a dream in the middle of the night i usually fall asleep while just beginning to visualize. when i try to do a WILD during an afternoon nap ive layed there visualizing and becoming more relaxed but never fall asleep.
what am i doing wrong? and, what is the best and easiest technique to havign a lucid dream? the closest ive came to lucid dreaming was when i had sleep paralysis. i felt like i was beginning to shift into another world and i heard audial hallucinations of a garden and birds chirping. do u guys think ill have a lucid dream soon?

thanks

Hmmmm. don't know if the forum is working but here goes. You are getting there. Everyone must discover what works for them. The only supplement I take is B-complex and I take that simply because it helps me sleep.

You're forgetting the confidence part.

Having DJ is great, keep at it.

MILD - falling asleep during saying your mantras is great. Mantras are most powerful, when they are a last thought before you fall asleep. No need to visualize mantras. You just keep repeating them.
They should be in present tense, short and meaningful for you.
MILD is more potent, if you add RCs+daytime awareness. Then it will be called DILD. I know you say you do RCs, but they must be done correctly. Here is a Collection of techniques for DILD, where you will find more info about this.

WBTB When you wake up at night and you start to visualize but fall asleep, you should get out of the bed for anywhere from 1-60 min, put the lights on, do something LDing related and then go back to bed for a WILD.

If you just want to do MILD/DILD when you wake up at night, and if visualizing don't work (it's not the best method for everybody), and it's not required for MILD anyway, just keep saying your mantra untill you fall asleep again. That's what MILD is all about.

WILD - nap is an excellent time to WILD, but I don't think it should be too far away from the time you woke up in the morning. Again, no need to visualize. Have an intent on falling asleep, while you keep your mind entertained with mantras, counting, or something similar. You may get sensations like vibrations, movement, hearing thing and such. These are not sleep paralysis, just signs of your body falling asleep. Just watch them, keep your cool and you can enter a lucid dream from that point by different ways, depending on which sensations did you have. Here is an article about that. Sensations and types of entry into WILD. Happy dreams:alien:

You may be trying too hard. I remember after my first one, I couldn't get another for a few weeks. I eventually decided it wasn't important, and put less effort in. That night I got a lucid. You just have to find the point where you aren't putting too much effort in, but not too little either.

It looks like you are overdoing lots of things. Don't worry we all did that in the beggining :rolleyes: ^-^

But listen to this (I don't want to brag I just want to show you that lucid dreaming can be done in a calm matter).

I don't take any aids, I even eat sugar which weakens your ability to lucidity... I don't reality check, I have a dream journal although for a long time I didn't and I don't follow a method by instructions, in a sense I just fall asleep. (I do have a theory of lucid dreaming etc. but I don't think ok first step relaxation, next step vibration, next step hypnagogia <- this happens automatic but my state of mind is to just relax.

I have taught some friends to lucid dreams and they had it in just a few days, and the secret is. THEY DIDN'T TRY!

That's the paradox, the best way to lucid dream is to not try! However... I want a way to lucid dream by intent or by will. So I tried to find that sweet balance of intent and lucidity.

The first thing you have to do is to stop caring about outcome. If you go to bed and crave for a lucid dream with the help from a method, and then wake up and realize that you didn't had one and get frustrated, then you are pretty much doomed to fail the next night and this become an evil circle. The way to stop this evil circle or well rather to convert it to a good one, is to stop getting frustrated although that isn't very easy so I choosed to abandon the goal of lucidity completely, atleast as my primary focus. Instead I decided to focus on the steps that take me to lucidity.

If you are new at soccer you can't focus on just scoring the goal all the time, that will get you nowhere, instead focus on what takes you to that goal, like teamwork, ball control, shooting power, calm mind etc. And lucid dreaming is no different! I don't understand why people think that... They put ALL the confidence in a method with steps rather than to understand that the road to mastery is within them! :meditate:

You said that your dream recall was better, well then stop putting that confidence in some pills! Go to bed earlier instead and let your natural chemistry do the work or just go to sleep and recall the dreams. Dream recall leads to -> passive inention and programming to be aware of your dreams (in order to remember them) -> higher general awareness of the dreams -> lucidity -> better dream recall! -> ... and so on and now you are in a positive circle! :D

This is not all! But I am feeling that this post is gonig to be the longest post I have ever written if I don't stop so I will provide some links about my video of passive intention and awareness.

Yoga Nidra or Conscious Sleep - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

And remember to never try, do! there is no try! Be there is no want!

Do what you need to do in order to induce lucid dreams naturally, and be what you need to be in order to already be lucid when you want.

What do you want the most? To try to be something all the time? Or be what you want all the time?

Namaste. :sleepmeditate2: