My personal method of becoming lucid. If anyone is interested.

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Originally Posted by SonGoku

I'm gonna try to clap in the tune of 'We will rock you'

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The music that comes to mind here for me is Kool & the Gang's "Celebration!" Will definitely try this as the "I'm dreaming" mantra is not working for my WILDs, and visualizing scenes inevitably keeps me awake.

p.s. interesting that a good friend of mine has reported over a hundred of WILDs using the "swing" technique: imagine swinging on a park swing, eventually he'd appear in the park and then go off and do LD stuff. I tried that but I find imagining swinging makes me move my physical eyes keeping me awake. I've also been swimming all my life so I'll try the swimming motions. I've been wanting to LD at a water park (heh heh!) so this could be a great way to get there!

Threads like this get me really excited.

Tried it a few times more, but conditions are not right probably, not tired enough (tried it late in the morning). I did just begin to feel some WILD sensations but I was already too awake I think and the room too light. Will keep at this!

I was once really tired and I couldn't keep my eyes open. Should've done this instead of trying to SSILD haha. Maybe I should write a note down by my door.

This is a very good technique. It look like "the phase technique".
The important thing is to imagine repeated MOTION (something that is natural and easy to imagine).
It simulates the dream body and shift your focus from the physical body to the dream body. (for me lucid dreams or astral projections are not made by the brain, that's why I use words "dream body")
When your physical body is almost asleep and when you are very zen, you may feel the effects quickly.
Sometimes when I wake up, I don't move or open my eyes and I start imagining my self writing lol... And I enter the lucid dream.

Woah, I can totally see this working, since sometimes when I'm thinking about a certain song, I'll fall asleep and I'll dream about something related to the song. Very creative, I think I'll try this sometime. :)

Hmm this has piqued my interest. I'll give it a go tonight then.

Cool technique! Approaches like this can be very effective. Xanous and I happened on a similar tech last year that we called "The Gladius Trick". We stumbled upon this by accident thanks to the "Colosseum" portion of the 2013 Task of the Year.

I found that if I woke up from a dream, I could DEILD by imagining myself swinging a sword back and forth. Any other repetitive motion seemed to work, too. Speaking of which:

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Turning a pedal on a bike is also a good rhythmical action to imagine. Particularly if you are interested in starting the dream on a bike, which is always fun.

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Yep, in fact Xanous would usually ride a bike or run when he did this. This approach turned out to be very effective for DEILD as well as classic WILD.

Good write-up, thanks for sharing! I need to try this again for WILD. It's been a while since I used it for anything but DEILD.

Trying this tonight!

Nice, straight-forward WILD technique(or DILD or DEILD)! :) I have tried some repetitive motions after reading ideas from Sivason (I think) but I have had the most success when I am already at the door of the dream or possibly already dreaming and definitely when in the void. I imagine that chances go up with better self-awareness, but chances should also go up with something as simple as practicing by visualizing the technique during the day. Perhaps visualize the clapping (or chosen rhythmic action) while visualizing it feeling real and visualize "realizing" it is a dream and practice what you will do next (allowing yourself to get a little excited, but not too excited, at all you can do in your next lucid) so that you don't miss it when the real thing comes...so that you don't continue into a non-lucid dream. What do you think Harionago?

Hi there,

So, I would appreciate some suggestions or recommendations here.

As I posted on this thread some weeks ago, I managed to achieve this on the 3rd try. I imagined I was swimming and I suddenly saw my arms moving in front of me, and then relaxed and focused on entering the dream, which I succeded.

The thing is that I've been trying this almost nightly, with no results.

Basically, I wake up naturally 4-6 hours after sleeping, and when I'm thinking about the rythmic movement, next think I know is I'm waking up in the morning. Sometimes I notice my mind wandering in some other stuff, and feel that I almost fell asleep, then I just get back to the thinking, but again, I wake up in the morning...

So, my problem is that I either don't know how to concentrate on the movement, or I'm doing something wrong.

Any hints?

Thanks!

Try adding a mental anchor, the motion may not hold enough of your awareness to carry over into the dream. (That's WILD, in a nutshell: fall asleep with a mental anchor, like a mantra, counting, anything to maintain a pearl of awareness along with you into the dream).

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Originally Posted by FryingMan

Try adding a mental anchor, the motion may not hold enough of your awareness to carry over into the dream. (That's WILD, in a nutshell: fall asleep with a mental anchor, like a mantra, counting, anything to maintain a pearl of awareness along with you into the dream).

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Hi FryingMan, thanks for the reply. I will try to focus into something with more dedication... the truth is that I tried imagining the movement with songs a couple times, as I read on this thread, but also I suddenly realize that I stopped both singing and imagining movement and I'm already onto something else...

Counting sounds good I guess...

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Originally Posted by Irreo

Hi FryingMan, thanks for the reply. I will try to focus into something with more dedication... the truth is that I tried imagining the movement with songs a couple times, as I read on this thread, but also I suddenly realize that I stopped both singing and imagining movement and I'm already onto something else...

Counting sounds good I guess...

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It's important to realize that just thinking about the motion isn't enough. You really need to visualise and feel the action as vividly as possible. Whenever I am imagining myself running, I just don't think about the action, I try to imagine how it feels. How the grass beneath my feet feels as I take each step, the wind in my hair, the occasional plant hitting against my leg. It needs to feel as realistic as possible.

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Originally Posted by fogelbise

Nice, straight-forward WILD technique(or DILD or DEILD)! :) I have tried some repetitive motions after reading ideas from Sivason (I think) but I have had the most success when I am already at the door of the dream or possibly already dreaming and definitely when in the void. I imagine that chances go up with better self-awareness, but chances should also go up with something as simple as practicing by visualizing the technique during the day. Perhaps visualize the clapping (or chosen rhythmic action) while visualizing it feeling real and visualize "realizing" it is a dream and practice what you will do next (allowing yourself to get a little excited, but not too excited, at all you can do in your next lucid) so that you don't miss it when the real thing comes...so that you don't continue into a non-lucid dream. What do you think Harionago?

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I think anything like this would help. In a way you are sort of using it as a RC too, which is always a good thing.

Thanks Harionago. In the last two days I tried first what FryingMan said about counting, and next day (today) after reading your suggestion I tried to focus more on sensations, not just movement. Well, sadly with no results... First, I don't know how many times I counted from 1 to 50 while clapping my hands... There was a moment where I almost forgot where I was (start over) or when I would count slowly, as if numbers were heavy... "fouurr... ty... fffff our..."... and again, waking up from a dream.

With the sensations, I tried to feel I was doing the underwater dolphin swimming, a movement I love specially using fins, trying to imagine the cold water, bubble sounds... and wake up.

Well, I guess I will have to keep trying. Next time I will count while I swim :D

Worked for me tonight on the first try. Great idea...thanks!

I've been playing piano for years. A sensation that is probably very implicit by now. Gonna try it with that.

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Originally Posted by LDQ

Worked for me tonight on the first try. Great idea...thanks!

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That's great news! I'm glad it's worked for you. Out of interest, what motion/action did you imagine?

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Originally Posted by Harionago

That's great news! I'm glad it's worked for you. Out of interest, what motion/action did you imagine?

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Clapping my hands together. I went to bed around 10pm and woke up around 4am. Did the clapping thing and in a few moments wound up lying in my bed lucid.

I did it again tonight and an interesting thing happened. Just after I started imagining clapping my hands, I started hearing the sound of my hands clapping together and I found it curious. It lasted for a while and then stopped. Later I realized that I was in the beginning stages of an LD and all I had to do was visualize myself in the dream but it was too late. I did have 2 other LDs later in the night though so I'm a happy camper.

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Originally Posted by LDQ

I did it again tonight and an interesting thing happened. Just after I started imagining clapping my hands, I started hearing the sound of my hands clapping together and I found it curious. It lasted for a while and then stopped. Later I realized that I was in the beginning stages of an LD and all I had to do was visualize myself in the dream but it was too late. I did have 2 other LDs later in the night though so I'm a happy camper.

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Yeah, it can be a little confusing at times. Sometimes I am fully convinced that I am clapping in real life and not in my dream.

Thats a FILD variation. A very solid technique.

Yes, exactly. That's what I was thinking when I heard the clapping but I didn't realize that I wasn't doing it for real. Duhhh...

I do not have any prior experience in lucid dreaming but this will be the very first technique I try.

I almost had success with this technique. I imagined myself running while trying to sleep. I later found myself lying and doing the running action on my bed. I got up and plugged my nose as a reality check, but I couldn't breathe. I thought to myself "this can't be a dream" so I went back to sleep. Unfortunately that made me wake up for real.