Thread: My personal method of becoming lucid. If anyone is interested.

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I think trying to imagine myself clapping made me "unsleepy." For shits and giggles tried clapping in the shower and then imagining myself doing it in my head. I couldn't do it. Almost as if my brain was trying to resist me. I guess I have bad imagination . Guess how long it took me to come up with my username.

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Originally Posted by Lucidordie

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I think trying to imagine myself clapping made me "unsleepy." For shits and giggles tried clapping in the shower and then imagining myself doing it in my head. I couldn't do it. Almost as if my brain was trying to resist me. I guess I have bad imagination . Guess how long it took me to come up with my username.

Details in my journal.

I suggest you try something you feel more comfortable imagining. Perhaps running instead?

First i have to practice some version of SSILD or WILD to raise my vigilance and not fall asleep so easily.

Then i hope for hypnagogia sensations and when those come i imagine getting out of bed and suddenly i feel a lighter dream body - so i know it´s not my real body.

I know some people can do it at bedtime, but i never did.

Originally Posted by VagalTone

First i have to practice some version of SSILD or WILD to raise my vigilance and not fall asleep so easily.

Then i hope for hypnagogia sensations and when those come i imagine getting out of bed and suddenly i feel a lighter dream body - so i know it´s not my real body.

I know some people can do it at bedtime, but i never did.

I would say falling asleep easily is a good thing. It means you don't have to imagine your action for too long.

I mentioned before that I have been using a new action where I bounce on my bed and out the window. It seems like I will be using that for the foreseeable future. It's works every time for me

My daughter told me last week that she was imagining walking on her stilts as she was going to sleep. Suddenly it felt real, and then one stilt twisted around and she woke up. It must have been similar to this technique.

I'm gonna try this method out tomorrow and report my results. I feel confident this one will work.

Harionago: you mentioned earlier about adding more senses. I'm going to try the clapping, and if that doesn't work, I'll try my previously mentioned idea of imagining chewing gum: touch, taste, smell. But I have a question: have you ever tried something like imagining the weather? What if you imagined it was raining? If you started hearing thunder and felt water dropping on you, I'd bet anyone would feel fairly confident they were dreaming.

Will try this soon, thanks!

Originally Posted by Sibyline

My daughter told me last week that she was imagining walking on her stilts as she was going to sleep. Suddenly it felt real, and then one stilt twisted around and she woke up. It must have been similar to this technique.

Sounds like it!

Originally Posted by Screen

I'm gonna try this method out tomorrow and report my results. I feel confident this one will work.

Harionago: you mentioned earlier about adding more senses. I'm going to try the clapping, and if that doesn't work, I'll try my previously mentioned idea of imagining chewing gum: touch, taste, smell. But I have a question: have you ever tried something like imagining the weather? What if you imagined it was raining? If you started hearing thunder and felt water dropping on you, I'd bet anyone would feel fairly confident they were dreaming.

Sounds interesting. I have never tried weather specifically but I don't see why it shouldn't work.

I have however imagined myself walking on wet ground and snow before. Adding that extra sensation always helps.

How about imagining that your eyelids are opening? Would that work.

Or, imagining that your eyelids are very light, like they are filled with helium or something?

When your eyes open properly you know you are dreaming.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

How about imagining that your eyelids are opening? Would that work.

Or, imagining that your eyelids are very light, like they are filled with helium or something?

When your eyes open properly you know you are dreaming.

You can imagine whatever you want as long as you do it rhythmically then it's fine. I only suggest things like clapping and walking because these are actions that we do all the time in our waking life, they are a lot easier to imagine.

Hi,

Thanks for this. I will try it tonight. I'll also try to remember what someone said on this thread: "Don't hope for it to work, believe it will work".

I just started CAT method a couple days ago (still on the introduction) but I'll give this a try. Who knows, maybe it's even a good mix in the case both work for me.

As a side note, I find funny that one of the things I "dream" of doing when achieving an stable, durable LD, is having a girl ride me whenever I want, but when you enter the dream doing just that, you say that "I just push the girl away and go doing some stuff" //facepalm

Sounds very promising!
Thanks for sharing!
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OK, I tried this tonight but I don't exactly know what happened. Maybe I was too tired, but I just woke up at around 2.30am, drank some water (bottle next to my bed), and still really sleepy I turned on my side and started imagining myself walking. I was thinking "ok, I feel tired, but maybe not so much to sleep right now, but anyway I'm going to stick feeling as walking", and next thing I know is I wake up at 4.30am...

Who knows maybe it even worked, but as I don't recall a single dream from this night, I can't know.... will try again tonight!

I'm gonna try to clap in the tune of 'We will rock you'

Originally Posted by SonGoku

I'm gonna try to clap in the tune of 'We will rock you'

That's neat. That could be belts and braces.

Originally Posted by SonGoku

I'm gonna try to clap in the tune of 'We will rock you'

I did the exact same thing when I first started.

i can't wait to try this technique tonight. it's simple enough, i'm angry at myself for not committing when i'm not distracted. so do i just imagine my hands clapping along with the sensation, with like a black or white background or does it not matter? clapping to a tune does sound helpful.

This seems cool, I'll have to try it tonight. Seems really simple also, soo

Once again I tried this and failed to stay awake... today I don't remember waking up at 2am as usual, but suddenly at 4.00am. Drank some water, turned around while starting to focus on feeling my hands touching, and next thing I know is alarm waking me up...


Well, I guess I will have to keep trying...

so to get this straight when do i have to do the motion? for example runnning. do i run right now and then run before going to sleep, time my alarm and imagine the running from before? or do i dont even have to run in the first place just imagine it withotu any real life examples?

I used to do something similar although I wasn't able to figure out a system to understand what I was doing. Your thread gives me what I was desperately lacking: Order! Thanks a lot for sharing!!

Originally Posted by sickofthisplace

so to get this straight when do i have to do the motion? for example runnning. do i run right now and then run before going to sleep, time my alarm and imagine the running from before? or do i dont even have to run in the first place just imagine it withotu any real life examples?

The thing is to pick something you KNOW how it feels, very good. I mean, not that feels very good, but that you know very good how it feels (could be both, anyway).

For instance, if you're a cook and cut lots of garlic, onion, etc... just try to get that feeling in your hand, arm... Imagina yourself holding the piece of food with one hand and cutting with the other, non stop.... if you swim a lot, just try to feel as if you were swiming.

It's not that you have to do a motion and go to sleep, just pick something that fits with you. Of course if you can't think on anything (which I doubt), you will have to do a rithmic movement for some time, focusing on how it feels, and then reproduce it mentally on bed. Anyway I guess that almost anything works... for example, if you drive 1 hour per day, you probably know how the throttle feels on your feet.

For example, the movement I chose for a couple of days is repeatedly touching my 5 fingertips against the other hand's fingertips. Why? Because at the office we have a joke that involves doing this gesture, and we do it a lot during the day. Also is a movement very sensitive as you use your fingertips, so I try to focus on feeling them hitting one against each other (anyway I always fall asleep...).

Good luck.

Originally Posted by Irreo

The thing is to pick something you KNOW how it feels, very good. I mean, not that feels very good, but that you know very good how it feels (could be both, anyway).

For instance, if you're a cook and cut lots of garlic, onion, etc... just try to get that feeling in your hand, arm... Imagina yourself holding the piece of food with one hand and cutting with the other, non stop.... if you swim a lot, just try to feel as if you were swiming.

It's not that you have to do a motion and go to sleep, just pick something that fits with you. Of course if you can't think on anything (which I doubt), you will have to do a rithmic movement for some time, focusing on how it feels, and then reproduce it mentally on bed. Anyway I guess that almost anything works... for example, if you drive 1 hour per day, you probably know how the throttle feels on your feet.

For example, the movement I chose for a couple of days is repeatedly touching my 5 fingertips against the other hand's fingertips. Why? Because at the office we have a joke that involves doing this gesture, and we do it a lot during the day. Also is a movement very sensitive as you use your fingertips, so I try to focus on feeling them hitting one against each other (anyway I always fall asleep...).

Good luck.

Exactly this.

You just need to pick an action that you are very familiar with and can easily imagine while falling asleep. You don't have to physically do the action before you go to sleep or anything like that, just visualize it as your drop off. The more vivid you imagine it the more likely you are going to succeeded.

Yay! Finally worked!, after 3 days trying...

I decided to try swimming, as I've been doing that for several years. I just focused on my arms crawling. Suddenly I found myself in darkness with the arms moving in front of me. I continued doing it and an image started to form. I could feel my arms, but my legs were still in my bed, with some "electric" feelings, similar to when you try WILD and get very relaxed.

Anyway, I managed to get into the dream, more or less, because even if I stabilized it, I'm not sure I had my full dream body in. There was a huge beach, with waves around 5 stories tall. There was this natural wall on my left, formed of rocks and sand. I walked near it and decided to train/experiment a bit, as this has been what I consider my second "stabilized" dream.

I decided I wanted to summon a water elemental (from a game), and I just did it. He became hostile to me inmediately, but as I'm the master of the realm, and know it, I though "lets see how hard this thing hits... will I feel a wave of water?". He tried to hit me but did nothing. I then decided trying to summon a fire elemental behind him and see what happens. As I did it, the water elemental went straight for it.

Now I'm not quite sure what happened, maybe I removed them, or they just went far, but next thing I do is "try walking over a solid object", as I read here yesterday when talking about dream control. I decided to walk with my head as hitting the rocks on the wall. First two rocks I hit them and I could feel the pain. Next one I though "this one I can go through", and I did. Next one I chose not to, and I hit it again...

Then I tried teleport, but no success here. I looked at a spot some meters away and though on being there, but nothing... I woke up.

Anyway, I'm happy with the results. I hope to be able to do this method in a relaxed state where I can just stay in the dream long enough...


EDIT: Forgot to mention that it somehow worked twice... Later I tried it again, and on a moment I found myself swimming on my bed. I could feel the matress rubing my arms, and I was on my bed, all sleepy. I though "you're supposed to think about it, not actually do it!" and I stoped my arms.

Now thinking about this, I think I was already dreaming... No way I could be moving my arms like that in bed, I guess.