A Brilliant 100% Way To Have A Good Lucid Dream That You Want ( A Bit Like Noins )

Leo, this is the attaining lucidity forum. This method helps him get lucid, not nessesarily dream control. You might as well be dissing WILD, since you can still have 0 control with WILDs.

And he could just copy that sonnet thing off google anyways.

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Originally Posted by ZenVortex

LEO, SHUT UP AND STOP DISSING THE KID. He has told us something that he says is working consistently for him, so maybe we can learn something from him. This kind of insulting behavior really pisses me off, Leo. Instead of a serious discussion, you are wasting everybody's time with this type of crap.
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well said ZenVortex :) :)


also to everyone usually this takes 2-3 nights to work but some people have told me it works overnight so yeah.

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Originally Posted by Leo

That's the point.

If one has Total Control of Lucid Dreaming then one can simply ask for "an 18 Line sonnet entitled "Ode to a Golden Apple", and, voila, such a poem should appear and be committed to memory by perfect dream recall.

And then I can judge whether or not the said 'sonnet' is worthy of the Higher Dream Mind.

Or our little friend is a fake.

Yes, he probably dreams of Cowboys and Indians every night -- childhood dreams. He supposes he is Lucid, but we have no idea what he considers 'control' to be. So this challenge was meant to stretch him a bit.

yes, and besides, we will see whether he can still dream after he at least hits adolescence. many young children can dream, just like many young children have imaginary friends or wet their beds. It doesn't last.
Harsh, no, I don't think I am being harsh.

What? Afraid I might make baby cry?
Excuse me, but wouldn't that be everybody?

What is left to old age but the privelege... even the duty... to criticize the arrogance of Youth?

So you shut up.
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no look just because your older than everyone does mean your better and wiser so 1st of all get the sand out of your vagina and shut the f**k up because no-one cares about what you think and what you say.

leo, did your kid just drop you off at the old folks home? that would explain the bad attitude.

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Originally Posted by rexle

leo, did your kid just drop you off at the old folks home? that would explain the bad attitude.
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lol

well said rexle :) :) :) :) :)

Holy smokes LEO take a fricken break. Do the thread a favor and take a big cup of STFU and watch some soothing TV to cool you off :shock: . I dont hunt people down just because they said something that didnt apeal to me or because they forgot a period in one of their sentences. If your still a bitch, go and shout in a corner for 5 minutes then come back. Dont go around pissing people off here. Jeeze. I thought you were smart enough to keep your cool. I always liked Dream Views forums and threads because there werent many people like you. Dont be a fag. Now lets just put this ALL behind us and get back to the topic. :roll:

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Originally Posted by alfaalex101

Holy smokes LEO take a fricken break. Do the thread a favor and take a big cup [i][u]of STFU and watch some soothing TV to cool you off :shock: . I dont hunt people down just because they said something that didnt apeal to me or because they forgot a period in one of their sentences. If your still a bitch, go and shout in a corner for 5 minutes then come back. Dont go around pissing people off here. Jeeze. I thought you were smart enough to keep your cool. I always liked Dream Views forums and threads because there werent many people like you. Dont be a fag. Now lets just put this ALL behind us and get back to the topic. :roll:
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This thread has become a flame pit.

True. Leo is a real SOB and needs to be taught some manners. He acts as if he knows all and we should go :bowdown: to him and say that we are not worthy for him. This guy is a practical example of bad character/SOB. I suggest you avoid/ignore everything he says before we all come to his door steps to kick the living Sh** out of him. Oh ya qwikjus69, I'll try your little trick sometime tommorow if I can get some time to record myself saying that list without all my SIBLINGS around me.

Well, I must go against the general grain and say that I would like to hear his Lucid Sonnet.

One hundered percent lucidity is quite the claim. It would at least be interesting to hear what he comes up with.

Maybe he is one of the new genration of Crystal Children, or is it Indigo?

Show me the Sonnet!

Daen.

I started off empathising with qwikjus, simply because Leo did respond in an unnecessarily harsh way at first, and because I'm loath to side with Leo being arrogant and aggressive as he is. However I fiond that Leo's right in at least a few ways: I do find it annoying when people post '100% success' methods (because no method is absolutely successful in itself, and usually any of these apparent ones are much less effective than simply MILD!) and I do find it annoying when people don't even bother to write properly, considering how little effort it takes.

It didn't help that qwikjus decided to precipitate a flame war either.

So, I'm going to have to go with Leo this time, and I'd like to see this sonnet.

He means it worked 100% for HIM. Not so sure about the rest of us.

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aaaahhh im burning in the flame pit!!

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Originally Posted by Daen

Well, I must go against the general grain and say that I would like to hear his Lucid Sonnet.

One hundered percent lucidity is quite the claim. It would at least be interesting to hear what he comes up with.

Maybe he is one of the new genration of Crystal Children, or is it Indigo?

Show me the Sonnet!

Daen.
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Yes, agreed.

Calm down, people. Sure, he was a little harsh, but it doesn't help to have half of the forum come and post "GTFO" in the thread. Now why not get back on topic before it gets locked?

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Originally Posted by Leo

yeah, right.

You think you have it all figured out.

Well, I wonder how soon it will be when instead of writing in with truiphant know-all advice, you write in confessing that you have problems just like everybody else.
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That's fricken rich coming from you. For the year or so I've been on DV I don't think I've seen a single post of yours that is asking for help; every one is telling people how to do things, or that they're doing something wrong.

*flame over*

I always enjoy reading peoples new ideas, because it keeps me thinking about LDing, and sometimes helps with ideas of my own. I agree that no method is 100%. But surely anything that helps in any way is good...

I'll adapt some of these methods and see if it helps with my LDing, thanks for the tip ^^

My god these topics are funny! There's always a 'Massive Argument Thread', in which all bag out people... :D

Let's stay on topic now...

i know its like someone can say the littlest thing and then BAM!! someone like leovolont is on your ass 24/7 lol

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Originally Posted by Marvo

To qwikjus69

The rules say "atleast 15 years old" - just thought I would say that haha

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whatever. I'd bet my bottom dollar if that rule was enforced we'd lose a lot of good active members here (like me :) ).

Anyways, is this discussion about how much of a jackass Leo Volont is or about a lucid induction technique? Well, whatever, i'll try the technique. Also, I think you're being a bit harsh on Leo (even if he can be a jerk). I mean responding to a mean and insulting post with an even meaner and more insultive post doesn't solve anything. What happened to peaceful discussino? And I too want to hear the Sonnet in 18 lines titled "an ode to a golden apple". Sounds like fun.

yeh lol i knew it was at least 15 but like only 1 year off isnt going to hurt hehe.

i also want to hear the apple sonnet thing as well.

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Originally Posted by qwikjus69

yeh lol i knew it was at least 15 but like only 1 year off isnt going to hurt hehe.

i also want to hear the apple sonnet thing as well.
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You're the one who's meant to be writing it.

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Originally Posted by Leo

yeah, right.

You think you have it all figured out.

Well, I wonder how soon it will be when instead of writing in with truiphant know-all advice, you write in confessing that you have problems just like everybody else.
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STFU. Every one of your posts I read, you're mouthing off people. You've done it to my mates, you've done it to me and you've done it to people I don't even know so pack it in for Christ's sake.

Geez... :evil: :evil: :evil:

One thing I have to ask. Should I say:
"I will LD tonight...blah blah etc."

{or}

"YOU will LD tonight...blah blah etc."

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Originally Posted by Raylin

You're the one who's meant to be writing it.
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I was about to say that, but you beat me to it :pissed: . Whatever. Yeah I'm 13 (almost 14 though), but I don't really care because if anyone gives me crap about it, I can respond that Kaniaz was 13 when he wrote the Nightmare Tutorial, so kicking anyone who is 13+ would be pure hypocracy.

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Originally Posted by PenguinLord13

I was about to say that, but you beat me to it :pissed: . Whatever. Yeah I'm 13 (almost 14 though), but I don't really care because if anyone gives me crap about it, I can respond that Kaniaz was 13 when he wrote the Nightmare Tutorial, so kicking anyone who is 13+ would be pure hypocracy.
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Did you check when Kaniaz joined? Briefly, it was before the age-15 rule was established, so if you would like, then feel free to look up ex post facto. Any why shouldn't we enforce the age rule? It's there for a reason. (But I decline to continue the discussion in this post; PM me if you wish to say more.)

I think Raylin said it best, though that it does get rather old hearing the "best technique ever" title being strewn about. Verbal/auditory affirmations are effective when attempting to gain lucidity, but the amount of time it may take to be effective varies from person to person and isn't necessarily the key to achieving it. It's about motivation, will power, desire, and usually just plain hard work.

Thank you for your idea, qwikjus69. Now let's get back on topic. :)

-Amé

when do we get the 18 line sonnet entitled "Golden Apple?"


i wanna hear it...