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Success! Although I sort of moved I was kind of still drowsy. So I laid there and felt vibrations. After slowing down my breathing felt sinking feeling then I went in. It didn't last too long though; all I really did were reality checks and then I woke.
Wow, thanks for this. I'm not sure if I actually did it, but I got a lucid dream. What I mean is, in my first dream last night I got lucid at the very end, and then "woke up." I don't know if it was a false awakening or if I really woke up because of course I kept my eyes shut. In a matter of seconds it felt like my entire body was vibrating and splashes of blue appeared before my eyes. Literally just ten seconds later I was floating over a purple ocean with blue highlights and completely lucid. I'm not sure if it counts since I realize it may have been a false awakening, but it was an amazing experience nonetheless.
This technique is easy, yet hard. Your mind wakes up, but you make your body think is hasn't, etc. What's so hard for me is not moving or opening my eyes when I awaken. Maybe a sleep mask would help?
Just luck and practice. Lots of time I realize that I'm dreaming just as I'm waking up and I try to say that when it fades I won't move.
Yay. I had a DEILD last week, without even realizing it.
I became lucid via a DILD right as I woke up from my dream. Because I was aware, I felt awake before I even opened my eyes so I just kept them closed and chanted to myself "I'm in a dream" a few times and suddenly after what felt like maybe 10 seconds I was dreaming again and had the most Vivid lucid dream ever. I had no control and it didn't last long, but it was so real that I actually convinced myself I was awake and lost it :? I didn't think to do an RC, doh.
I want to try this technique every night now, but unless I'm lucid in the dream I wake up from, I seem to move around and open my eyes before I notice that I've woken up. Its harder than it sounds. :( Auto-suggestion isn't working to prevent me moving upon waking. *sigh*
How i'm i suppose to do this. when i set my alarm i have to turn it of, and then i'll move. or i just drink lots of water, but i guess that i ain't suppose to stay in the bed then. XD. how shall i make this miracle come true?
DEILD is interesting. I'll have to try sometime when I have good recall and can stay in bed without getting up xD
i dont ever remember waking up after my dreams. i have decent dream recall but i only remember waking up in the morning
Don't forget to mention that DEILD is actually a subform (a "bastard child" as someone once humorously called it) of a WILD (Wake induced lucid dream). So, basically, DEILD can be used as a way of preparing for and practising for a standard WILD.
just a quick question:
Is sleep paralysis pretty much automatic once you lie there for awhile?
I tried to DEILD last night, but with no success. There were a few reasons for this:
My dream recall isn't as good as it could be, having only two nights of practice.
I found myself picking my nose as I was awakening o.O, and had been doing so for a while before I tried staying still.
My position was so damn uncomfortable so I moved. :P
Due to trying to DEILD I didn't want to move to write down the zany, vivid and detailed Runescape-eque dream. :( I shall continue to work on dream recall and add to my DJ before attempting a DEILD again. I also need to start using BrainBullet to help... >.>
If anyone still needs "brain-bullet" just ask me and I'll send it to him!Quote:
Originally Posted by acodemaster
Alright after continouing to use the tactile senses with DEILD I've made an important discovery, for those of you who actually do take the time to do the tactile senses.
Just about 10 min ago I had awoken from a far sized DEILD chain, and When I awoke from this dream I was pretty sure I was awake, the fan was blazing in my ear, and I could feel the covers and sheets, when I tried tactile it seemed weak and tiresome, so all I did was lay still and let my mind flow wherever it wanted and after a few moments of this I tried tactile again and it came on much stronger, just make sure you don't move and lay still, very still.
See the problem may be for those who are just laying still are they are sticking in a before dream after dream state that they cannot enter because they don't have enough stimuli (hence what tactile is for)
And the problem with tactile is if you wake up and your too much out of a dream and try tactile it seems weak and tiresome to use, but you cannot seem to make the slip into the state of mind required for it.
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingofKirby
It could happen at two points:
-When you are almost unconcious
-When you have just woken up
please help me does anyone have any tips for when you wake up and not move because i keep moving and then get mad! grrr
Ok, so last night I woke up with a dream fresh in my mind. So I tried to do a DEILD. I didn't move and I kept my eyes closed. I imagined the environment and thought about the dream. Then it felt as if I was being sucked into the dream. It was a very weird feeling and it felt as though my body was actually moving. I don't remember what happened after that though. Can anyone explain to me what happened?
Sounds to me like you were in the transitional state between being "Awake" and in a dream. Many people experience that motion effect as the dream is appearing before them. Generally what happens is you may have lost concentration at the last second, or for whatever reason just didn't become lucid right away, possibly missed a dream sign or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingofclutch
Do you remember having any dreams at all after that point in the night? If not, dont feel bad.. happens to lots of people, get so close then just pass out lol :banana:
The 'scientific' credence is simply a study done in the 60s by some theater owner that placed 'subliminal cuts' into a movie which caused them to flash on the screen at 1 /24th of a second. . It's been proven not to have any real effect on the subconscious mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by TimeStopper
It's a pretty common misconception that a 'subliminal stimulus' such as an affirmation flashed on the screen 'below the threshold of awareness' will register with the subconscious mind, even though you werent aware of it consciously. Some facts regarding the nervous system and optic nerves will contradict this, since the message wasn't even on the screen long enough for the neurons to carry a recognizable image of the words to the brain.
However it's one of the popular myths in pop-culture. An episode of Columbo back in 1972 furthered the myth as a generally accepted fact.
But hey... if a placebo works, then by all means use what works. Else, an affirmation that actually registers with the brain is about the only thing that will do any good.
edit: though there have been military uses of similar technology to reduce the occurence of friendly fire. However, this is use of flashes of color, and can be seen and comprehended, therefore not really a 'subliminal' stimulus. So, there is a hint of truth to it, but there's no scientific evidence supporting the technique used in 'brain bullet'.
Sounds promising, althougth I think the hardest part of this for me will be to keep my eyes closed when I awake from the first dream.
Hello, thank you for clearing up how to perfrom this technique. I have heard about it frequently before but never actually gota the grasp on how to follow out the process. I understand it all and would like to try it.
My only problem is that i can never seem to natuarlly wake up from my dreams, and if i set my alarm, i would have to wake up and completely ruin the whole point of not moving. Do you have any tips on how i can wake up from my dreams naturally?
Is the DEILD technique the same as Dream Chaining?
This technique sounds great for me seeing as how sometimes I tend to not be able to get back to sleep after trying WBTB methods.
I'll try this tonight and post my results.
Lucid Dream on the 3rd night. I woke up and stayed still (with eyes closed). After maybe a second or two of SP, the dream formed around me and I sorta rolled out of my body. Then I had my most vivid lucid dream yet. Great Technique!
I have never DEILDed on purpose before, but its happened numerous times which usually happens after intense dreams and walking up very hung over on some kind of alchohal or hallucinogen and I might even be trying to get up or open my eyes when it happens over again. haha, no escaping for me I guess. Another thing that helps me chain my dreams together is starving myself from any sleep for a long time and then simply going to sleep, and maybe leaving the music on (which is another story, but sometimes it helps invent motive, or creativity for my dreams. Radiohead is really nice to dream too as its essence is very nice and present even when I wake up)
Anyone heard of Flatland? I've been getting a cartoonish view in my dreams lately and have had cartoonish vision in real life too (due from drugs, and other stuff)
Back to the autosuggestion process, how long does it usually take for Brain Bullet to "suggest" for your body to stay still and keep your eyes closed?