lol I meant pre-sp sensation not pee :D
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lol I meant pre-sp sensation not pee :D
Had 1 success using this method, but it involved visualizing my hands (which had saved me from a collapsing LD once). Waking up after the dream is easy, as well as staying still, but ive tried this method probably close to 50x already. Is this something that is supposed to get better with practice? I feel I'm doing everything right. I often even get to a point where I feel my body shutting down into sp but then i'm just waiting...and waiting...not a twich! The only other thing that i can think of thats hindering me is my damn eyelids want to open and/or flutter, and i have to focus on closing them as i'm watching my hypnagogic imagery fade away. Ahhhh! Anyone have some pointers to stop the fluttering eyelids? (Ive tried the sleep mask) And does this tech. get easier with practice?Quote:
Originally Posted by jose
Just wondering as im thinking about trying this method what is sleep paralysis like? Is it scary and how long is it for? Thanks
It varies from person to person. The main thing should be an amount of freezing of bodily function.Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamer077
For me it's gone from feeling like a wave traveling up my body to where I get less ability to move, to my bed shaking in an earthquake, to someone choking me (And me almost visualizing it with my eyes clothes), to someone holding me.
The one and only time I had a DEILD I took Galantamine, and had 8 dreams chain together on an originally failed WBTB attempt. I remembered some tips from this even though I was originally expecting a normal LD or vivid dream. I stayed on my right side and didn't move and on. I just kept going in and out for about two hours.
i think i had sp last night. Felt like i was atached to my bed, unable to move and open my eyes, i thought that it was sp so i stayed calm and tryed to get into my dream, but my body was all numb and i forced my eyes open, a bit freaked out. I could go through it again, as it's supossed to be a easy way to get into a ld but iv'e read about hallucinations with sp and that would really put me off! I know there not real but i can't cope with stuff like that, any way to make sure no hallucinations?
i tried to DEILD once, after i did my first induced lucid dream while going to sleep for the night (it was a short MILD) i felt the dream fading and then i recognized the back of my eyelids and i didnt move but i didnt feel anything other than the tingling i get from staying still for a while and i could freely move if i wanted too. after waiting 10 minutes i got bored of staying still and went to sleep for the night.
So far no matter how hard i try i cant get to SP after the WBTB or the DEILD i never feel it
This isn't working for me. I lie there still with my eyes closed for ten minutes after waking from my dream and I hear its not supposed to take that long and absolutely nothing happens. Its so frustrating please help. I get frustrated since I know its not working but technically im doing nothing wrong am I missing something?
You're probably "waking" up too much, or your REM period is done. When you wake up for DEILD it should not literally be waking up... You're kind of just going from one dream to the next.
You are actually waking up, you just can't move a single muscle. If you feel your awareness tune outwards, its done. You're too awake. When I DEILD, when I feel the dream slip into the darkness, I remain in the darkness. It feels like I'm dreaming but of nothing; my senses never tune outwards however.
This will take some practice and auto suggestion to get used to. Try doing some fake awakenings. Go lay down in bed and pretend to sleep; lay there with your eyes closed and then 'pretend' to wake up and not move at all.
Don't half ass this, otherwise it won't work and you'll look like an idiot. You really need to visualize it if you are going to practice it.
I've decided to work on this, along with DILD. I've got really good recall (I just restarted my journal a week ago, and I've remember multiple dreams every night, even the night I started after months of a break)
I feel that with college coming, lucid dreaming will become useful for practicing things like public speaking, ect along with the recreational side.
So you're saying that if i'm at the point where I start actually thinking about what I'm doing that's too awake? You're reply was very helpful. And I never do move a single muscle. Some tutorials that i've read on other sites explain deild in a way that makes it seem like you can actually wake up or completely wake up and as long as you do so without opening your eyes and not moving while visualizing a past dream new dream getting out of bed etc the dream will form around you. This is the first time i've heard about half awake or not really awake as a kind of...well awake for deild. Obviously I know what "out of it" or "half asleep" is when you're tired people wake you up and you shrug them off and keep sleeping. But its confusing when I wake up from my dreams at night I wake up. I don't kindof go halfway there. So how can I deild if after dreams I fully awaken albeit without moving? Is there a way to stop this full awakening even though im not moving I start thinking okay don't move you haven't opened your eyes that's good now imagine your dream....with nothing. But no one ever told me there was to awake in this technique as long as you're still and calm you're fine, or so i've heard. But obviously that's falseQuote:
Originally Posted by Rathez
Basically when we wake up, we are all naturally tuned to move / fully awake. When we are fully awake, our senses our tuned outwards; we are aware of our external world. We do not want this when we are trying to DEILD; DEILD is like a WILD, we want to be in sleep paralysis. The key is to remain in sleep paralysis in DEILD, rather than achieve it in a WILD.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amberwolf
Its hard to DEILD out of a normal dream. Since we are not aware, we usually do not become aware until we fully awake, which makes it hard to do out of a normal dream. However, out of a lucid dream, its FAR easier. You are already consciously aware, so you can retain that inside awareness, but let your body remain in sleep paralysis.
I highly recommend trying this out of a lucid dream first, the experience will make a huge difference in your normal attempts.
Also, can you link to the sites you were referencing? I would like to read them, see if they are taking a different approach.
I agree. The only times I've DEILDed is after a lucid dream. I've been waiting to try my own custom variation of a CAN-WILD but with so much crap going on it's hard to even sleep properly.
I know what you mean. Can't wait for classes to start; the consistency will return!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elucive
Hey...
I seem to have a coupl'a questions regarding dream entry...:cheeky:
1. What if I don't remember my last dream? Can I re-enter a dream from the same night?
if not...any tips for recalling my last dream while being in between dream-reality state...
2. Just how hard is it to create a scenario?Do any of you do it?
Step 2 is not necesssarily true. I woke up, opened my eyes to see what time it was, rolled over, and then still managed to have a DEILD.
It wasn't a DEILD then, it was a WILD.
I remembered this somehow after coming out of my LD and I think that it worked except I got a FA which ruined my chance for a LD but this is an awesome tutorial, thanks!
Quick question. This morning when having a ld, the dream faded and I was in a Fa trying to get back into another dream, so I visualized a bag of chips and I saw the chip bag grow in front of me and then I saw it open with chips around it, then i was in another ld where I was restocking a chip rack at work. Would this be considered a DEILD or WILD?
Your technique is ingenious, I've used it once. I'm gonna try it again. Also, how many times have you chain lucid dreamed?
Its hard to DEILD out of a normal dream. Since we are not aware, we usually do not become aware until we fully awake, which makes it hard to do out of a normal dream. However, out of a lucid dream, its FAR easier. You are already consciously aware, so you can retain that inside awareness, but let your body remain in sleep paralysis.
I highly recommend trying this out of a lucid dream first, the experience will make a huge difference in your normal attempts.
i understand deilding is easier from a lucid rather than normal dream...but what are your steps to get there in the first place? how many times do u state test during the day? and what night time rituals do u use to get there?
Hey guys , when i try to do this, i cant help it , i have to move because i feel unconftarble :S
Help¿?
I can do this fairly easily after I wake up from a lucid dream. I often forget after a regular dream, though. I'm already trying to train myself not to move after I wake up to help me remember my dreams.
Im gettingg ready to post a tutorial... Maybe it will help you guys.
Where will it be posted?Quote:
Originally Posted by dakotahnok