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I read in a FAQ of lucid dreaming somewhere, or maybe even read it here, that when you are in a lucid dream, and have control you can meet up with one of your friends and help tell them that they are dreaming aswell? What does this mean? that if both people are dreaming in real life, you can meet together in the dream and talk to each other w/e? and wake up and both if both of you recalled it would remember they were in the dream together?
I personally dont believe that can happen. To crazy!
I dont believe it can happen either, but some people believe in 'dreamwalkers' or something like that...
It's known as dream sharing and it is very controversial as to whether it is possible or not. I personally beleive that it is possible, but a bit more complicated than what you said.
http://dreamviews.com/community/show...=dream+sharing
Makes for a great story. I'd love for it to be true. I'm quite convinced it's not.
Nightstalkers and DreamWalkers: http://dreamviews.com/community/show...=dream+sharingQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamA
I want to test this out like this: think of a random word, tell my friend in 'our' dream, and ask him what it is the next morning. I'm fairly sure that this i impossible, though
This I suppose, would require there to be some sort of shared dream world, which I quite firmly believe there is not.
It would be fun if it was real though.
Big if.
k thx, didnt this so either. But lucid dreams alone are pretty amazing to have, unreal! even though i never had one yet, lol. Still the thought of it just makes me wonder
All o'ya sure assume alot, but know very little. I know just as little when it comes to shared dreaming, but at least I admit that and I don't have any conclusions wether it's true or not. I haven't had experience with it, but I've heard of shared dreams from friends of mine. Unintentional and nonlucid but still there was a specific hotmail adress in a friend of mine's dream and her best friend sdreamt exactly the same with exactly the same hotmail adress.
For me I just don't know. I would be a stupid shit to claim I believe it's true or believe it's impossible; I have no experience to speak from.
I keep my mind open to the truth, whatever it may be.
I don't believe it, but it would be cool if it were true. But even if you did test it and it WAS true, the other person might not remember the dream.
Just to make it even more confusing, consider the possibility of mutually similar dreams that are merely coincidental. You might dream of each other without having a connection.
I don't believe it either - but am involved in an experiment right now to try proving or disproving the possibility.
How can we say for certain that ANYTHING is impossible in a world that can be described by quantum mechanics, located in a universe that is likely one of an infinite number of parallel universes?
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Originally Posted by skysaw
Well there is a way to make sure you can be certain wether a shared dream was real or not;
Tell the other person in the Dream that " The Word is kakolukia" ( I Lurrv prince of Persia ;) ) Then uppon awakening contact them and ask them "What's the word?" If they say "Kakolukia" then there's no chance in hell that shared dream was coincidental. Then again more people MIGHT know that word from having Played Prince or Persia so make it a personal, meaningless, nonexisting word.
I just remembered a shared dream like experience i had once....it wasn't lucid though.
In MY dream, i was sliding off the road and was going to crash into a moving train, i tried to stop the car so bad, but it was to late and i crashed and the car went underneath the train and i died.
I didn't tell anyone my dream yet, then my mom says on the breakfast table about a dream she had, she said that I, duppa, was underneath a train and my hand got caught off.....!?!?!? same night we dreamed about it. Thats pretty close to being something weird isn't it? Not lying about this dream either.
:huh: How do we know that lucidity occurs in an entirely different universe? My understanding has always been that dreams are mental constructs; illusions that our brain creates utilizing sensory output.Quote:
Originally Posted by pj
Like ska said, we shouldn't just jump to conclusions. It's not very likely, but we can't really say it's impossible until we try. I once had a dream that a big floating blob was kidnapping me at mcdonalds, so I hid in the bushes outside while he bought me an ice cream cone and I saw my mom drive past and I jumped on the back of the car and got away. Then my cousin told me about a dream she had and it was the same exact dream. We even drew a picture of the blob to see if we were really dreaming of the same thing, and both our drawings looked the same. I dont know if it's a coincidence or not, but that's one of the most random dreams I'd ever had and not something most people would dream about. Although I dont believe in that whole "dreamwalkers and Nightstalkers" thing. I mean, it sounds interesting, but come on... they're talking about people joining factions and legions and banning their victims from dreaming and nighstalker hunting and all that stuff. sounds a lot like a fantasy to me
i truely believe without a doubt its bs
Actually, i am experimenting with this "dream sharing" and the results are promising so far.
Yeah, I recently watched a documentary on string theory, or M theory, or what ever they are calling it now. pretty fascinating stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by pj
Most paranormal occurrences can be explained statistically.
What would you say the odds of two people sharing an extremely similar dream on the same night are? One in a billiion? One in a trillion? Pick a number.
365 days in a year * 6.6 billion people = 2.4 trillion dreams in a year (just assuming for sake of simplicity one dream per night). That's just a single year. When dealing in numbers that large, it would be surprising if you didn't hear about a few cases of people sharing dreams, or dreaming about a catastrophic event before it happened.
It's good to be open-minded, but investing your beliefs in things that aren't backed by sufficient evidence is just foolish.
Huh????Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvanus350
Methinks you misread my point - meaning I didn't state it very well.
Our WORLD exists in a universe that is likely one of an infinite number of parallel universes.
There... try that.
Can you please tell us about what you are doing and what you have discovered? If you don't want to go public with it, would you PM me?Quote:
Originally Posted by Volcon
I have a rather recently found genuine interest in this. I'm not a a believer, but I am coming around to being open to the notion that something could be going on here more than the common explanation covers.
Thanks.
don't knock it till you've tried it. it is easy (in relative terms) to establish its existance but a lot harder to prove its non-existance.
it would be a great way to get lucid though, eh? you're walking around some odd place thinking "this is normal and i am just living my waking life. la de da"
then this guy runs over and says "hey, i'm super duck from dv and you're dreaming. get lucid now!"
wham! you're lucid and you love me for it. two birds with one stone, me thinks. hehe.
I think it's like the Internet, "Welcome to The Crossroads, you have L'Mail".
Lol no, I mean, are brains could be more than we expected. Like Nintendo Wild - Fild (yeah, sorry). I mean, psycic people for example. They have do funky stuff with the power of the mind. And how the hell do people expect to say in a Dream "Excuse me, mate. Do you know how I can stay Lucid". And then (without reading from the internet) his saying "Well you do this, you rub your hands together". I mean, sound impossible?
And as for Post #5:
The Simpsons comes to mind. ;)
One the parallel universe theory has no evidence, and too bringing quantum mechanics in is wrong, brains are classical objects and dreams are not paranormal. Even if on some level brain had some quantum phenomina this wouldn't mean we could connect brains.Quote:
How can we say for certain that ANYTHING is impossible in a world that can be described by quantum mechanics, located in a universe that is likely one of an infinite number of parallel universes?
People who believe in shared dream or astral projection, are wishful thinkers. I don't mean wishful thinkers in a good way.
Well the same quatum mechanics that is forming the world around us.Quote:
Originally Posted by wendylove
Is also forming are bodies, including our brains. There are some theories that argue, that this quantum energy is actually consciousness itself. Considering the complexity of the creations this energy is forming, It makes more sense that this could be true, than not.
There's a good book on this, called "Simultaneous Dreaming", or something like that. It's somewhere in my library. It claims this is not only possible, but a skill anyone can accomplish.
I'm currently trying shared dreams with a friend the same guy who shared one with volcon, I'll let you guys know how it goes, but some of you might not beleive me when I come back eventualy and tell you all about it.
Personaly I didn't beleive in shared dreaming in the past but I have a buddy who is an honest person who says that he's had them alot of times (with 2 diffrent members here), so I try and beleive him and just wait to see if it's possible, I mean I serously don't think it works, but I serously don't think he would just tell a lie, or maybe a bunch of coencidences happened whenever he shared his dreams who knows.
So tired of people trying to write off stuff like this - like existence is a one-time deal, pointless, and without continuity of the mind after the physical has died. The greatest impossibility is that life ever existed in the first place, so until you can prove that life doesn't exist, you won't be able to prove that higher levels of conscious communication don't exist.
Good point. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by Torcher
And people who are pre-disposed to dismissing possibility out of hand based on "common knowledge" are the ones who have held back human progress all through history.Quote:
Originally Posted by wendylove
Your faith in your own cognitive powers has you in blinders. That's your choice and your life. You give a pretty fair indication here of how much you are enjoying it.
Hmm, you could have one where you're both going on DV Chat. Like if I was lucid I could of told LucidDreamGod that he was in my dream!
yeah similarity in the dream might cause are minds to link up, then I'd tell you a password and when you wake up you'd have to use it as a chatroom password to get into my room.
Hey LDG, LD1352. See you in the waking world...
Well, I believe it is possible. I had a sort of shared dream with a classmate in 3rd grade. I came in and mentioned it to her and she said "woah. I remember that!" crazy huh? It has yet to happen again though. Perhaps the human mind's frequencies rearely but occasionaly match with another person. Therefore joining them in a construct of both their minds. However, the rareness of this causes the controversey.
There are tons of things that scientists admit could exist but haven't discovered yet, like dark matter, magnetic monopoles, the Higgs Boson, etc., so who knows? psi waves or similar telepathic communication could exist
Anyone prepared to get up off their over-opinionated asses and try to seek the truth behind this? Explorers that clame certain missions are impossible clearly aren't very good explorers at all. Feel challanged.
I myself had an meditational experience with a friend that DOES prove something about Collectiveness in the realm of Dreams. Allthough it was a Daydream it was a strong one. We put on some "Celtic River" music and meditated in his room. In the midst of all of this I suddenly found myself in a very immersive daydream. To be specific in a forrest and there I actually saw a figure. When I came closer I saw it was my friend and to confirm I had just "contacted" him in this daydream I laughed. He responded by laughing and we both fell into joyfull laughter that we made contact. We proceeded to stay together in that daydream but I lost him again at a lake. Later we talked about it and I'm allready awaiting your "It was coincidence" response. But only me and my friend know, beyond explanation, that it wasn't coincidence since neither of us had such intentions nor had we spoken about it: it just happened and it was confirmed.
As for shared dreaming: I guess this requires 2 master lucid dreamers, that are not full of assumptions and have an open mind, and some time.
I've read that Lucid Dreamers can "get into another one's dream and make them lucid too". Well how about we FIRST try and then JUDGE?
Right now everyone is equally full of shit: Experience and THEN conclude.
me and my cousin had two or three shared dreams before, not lucid, you could ask him.
my cousin is zooyorkiscool
Neat. What were they about?
It more than likely is not true.
fine I will tell you what they are about, and If I can take place in research toprove it on the research team.
the first one we wanted to meet up the dream, I was throwing some sparkly colored rocks, then my cousin flew across the sky, pretty much thats it.
the second one we were on vacation, he mentioned a dream he had about the space thing at disney but it was at cedar point. I said I had the same dream. we described everything to each other perfectly. It was dawn, there was a sparkly river nearby, I walked closer to a space shuttle, it was upside down on a tower. I went in it, there were a whole bunch of other people on the ride, the shuttle lifted off the towwer for a few seconds an I looked down at the ground, it then fell back on the tower.
this sounds cool. Had you two been on that space shuttle earlier? similar dream seeding could lead to similar dreams
no, I think it cost 20 million to ride on the actual space shuttle, and everything was identical, even the sparkly river.Quote:
Originally Posted by musicman
Cool. Mine was about a photo shoot I was doing (taking the pictures) and this girl I knew walked through and entered a door on the far side of the room. The door was labeled "Backstage". The next day, I told her about it and she said that she dreamed that she was doing a play but had crossed through my photo shoot to get backstage. Everything matched. Even the clothes we were wearing.
While this is getting off topic with quantam mechanics, you can't say the parallel universe theory has no evidence since quantum physics in itself could be seen as sufficient evidence. I think that shared dreaming is possible and that some of the claims shoud be investigated further.