Originally Posted by
unseen wombat
I posted a couple wild threads myself. The reason is that even though I read, I think, every single tutorial on the site, I still can't get it. I don't know if it's just really that hard, or if there's some tiny bit of information I'm still lacking. If someone would just say, "Oh, you did that? No, try to do this," and it would work, all those tutorials would make sense, and maybe I would then understand why it hasn't worked all the times before.
I'm still searching for that one tip that puts me over the edge. The closest thing I've found so far is the thread by Jeff that says to remain completely still and ignore minor discomforts your body throws at you. (In direct contradiction to what other people have said, that you should just scratch itches and readjust your position when uncomfortable, because after all, thinking about it just keeps your body from falling asleep).
I think that's why there are so many WILD questions. People are getting contradictory information. One person says stay still, another says go ahead and move. One person says don't think about your body, another says it's okay to think about your body. Who's right? They both are, I guess, because they have had success with their own technique. For the rest of us, it's a confusing maze that we have to navigate, and it's just so frustrating to read "OMG! I did this last night for the first time and I had a half hour lucid!" when we're laying there for an hour and a half for the fiftieth try and nothing happens.
That's what we want. Other people find a thread, tucked away maybe on page 5 of attaining lucidity, try it and get lucid the first night. I've read the Galantamine and Choline thread like 3 times now. I've read those stories over and over. G+C works for me, sometimes, but not nearly the 90% success rate some people say. I've tried the subliminal lucid mp3. Other people got lucid from it. I didn't. I've OD'd on GABA so hard that one time I couldn't go to work the next day (which was actually a pretty nice bonus. I h8 work). Some people get lucid from it all the time. I have sparse success from it.
That's what we're all looking for. The thread that makes us into that person who says, "OMG, I've had a 90% success rate with this technique, or this supplement." That's why there are so many WILD threads. We don't want to rehash the same advice. All I see in most threads is people saying, "Oh, you should do it after WBTB. NEVER try WILD at the beginning of the night." Okay, great, I know you're trying to be helpful and I appreciate it, but I know that. I'm looking for something new, or maybe something I've overlooked, but not the same old advice I've already read in the tutorials.
Thank you Seeker, for your tutorial. I don't want to seem critical, because I know you're honestly trying to help us. But vague and open ended is okay once you know what's going on. Like if I were laying in bed and the vibrations didn't start for 15 minutes as opposed to 5, I might say, "Okay, I need to use the visualization technique tonight," or on another night, I find myself unable to really concentrate, so I say, "I need to start counting backwards." I don't know if either of those things are right. They're probably totally unrelated. But when we have only vague information, it's like we're stumbling in the dark. We're just guessing what to do when "circumstances change" and I think in the majority of the time we don't even realize they've changed. I mean, which circumstance is really significant? Is it feeling a little cold? Hot? Is it not being able to hold an image in your mind? Is it that your thoughts keep drifting back to your body? Drifting in random directions? And even if we know what circumstances are important and can recognize when they've changed, what do we actually do?
Sorry for the wall of text. I'm just one of the people who is still searching for my own holy grail, so I can put up post after post saying, "Yes, it worked again!"
