Thread: Did you notice the anmount of posts about WILD?

I noticed. As probably anyone here the number of posts about WILD. People are somehow not satisfied with what they read and what they get in that vast numbers of variations.

What do you think, why do people ask so many questions about wild?
What do you think is wrong with the techniques {if something}?
Do we have enough wild variations?

In this thread, i would like to see more of this kind of questions. Even better. I would like you to think about this "problem" more. Be creative. It doesnt hurt. You are dreamers.

I have read in a lot of posts here that WILD is very hard, and indeed I myself find it hard. Perhaps we are trying to make it easier?

Originally Posted by adraw

What do you think, why do people ask so many questions about wild?
What do you think is wrong with the techniques {if something}?
Do we have enough wild variations?

I think it sounds appealing to go straight from being awake to being in a lucid dream, without having to practice recall, remembering dream signs, incubating, etc.

However, it is very hard for many people, and actually I think DILD is really the easier way if you are not one of the lucky ones for whom WILD comes easily.

I am not a good WILDer so I can't comment about the techniques.

I think a good bulk of the questions come from people who haven't read any of the tutorials, honestly.

I don't really think we need more techniques, because all of the techniques are fundamentally the same. Creating even more would just confuse people, I think.

People also ask a lot of questions about WILD because it seems to be the most exciting technique of achieving lucidity. Some people assume it's the best one, or the only one.

I agree, and posted a similar question a while ago about the lack of popularity of the WBTB technique. As was pointed out to me, the tutorials section covers virtually any technique.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

I have read in a lot of posts here that WILD is very hard, and indeed I myself find it hard. Perhaps we are trying to make it easier?

Good point. I talked a lot with experienced people and they tell me exactly the same. Still. There is a barrier between our knowledge and theirs. The barrier called experience. . Would be worth experiencing. If you would like to participate in one unification experiment, take a look at:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=52550

Originally Posted by Moonbeam

I think it sounds appealing to go straight from being awake to being in a lucid dream, without having to practice recall, remembering dream signs, incubating, etc.

However, it is very hard for many people, and actually I think DILD is really the easier way if you are not one of the lucky ones for whom WILD comes easily.

I am not a good WILDer so I can't comment about the techniques.

Pretty interesting in my opininon. That seems to be really the truth. We are often in search for ways how to cheat our brain. And the ways are already there.l Perhaps another kind of technique? Actually. Is there someone, who wrote a guide just about this:

I am bad visualiser, more tactile oriented, little nervous..... -> try physical wild {as referred to BillyBobs guide} becouse ......

You get what I mean.

Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant

I think a good bulk of the questions come from people who haven't read any of the tutorials, honestly.

I don't really think we need more techniques, because all of the techniques are fundamentally the same. Creating even more would just confuse people, I think.

People also ask a lot of questions about WILD because it seems to be the most exciting technique of achieving lucidity. Some people assume it's the best one, or the only one.

All techniques are fundamentally the same. Yeah. Thats it. The variations of the experiments bring biases into techniques. Actually there is only one WILD technique, which consists of steps, which are different for people who are different. Hmm. Also would be cool if you took a look at the link i posted in previous response. There is a proposal, which could narrow this all. One generalisation, to make new WILD aspects{and other aspects} more controllable. Actually. There are tutorials {mostly from BillyBob} which are trying to make a map of all important techniques. Lets move furhter.

Originally Posted by Lucidipedia

I agree, and posted a similar question a while ago about the lack of popularity of the WBTB technique. As was pointed out to me, the tutorials section covers virtually any technique.

Hmm. Yeah. Covers. Does it cover for whom are which techniques good? I couldnt find. Thats, what i am searching for. I know. I cannot get all information in a world. Experiencing wouldnt be fun that way. But still. Even organising is learning.

no.

Another possibility could be that there is no one specific technique that is a one-size-fits-all, so to speak. All our minds are different, we all need slightly different ways of performing WILD. But when someone finds that way for themselves, they post it saying "this is the way that works!" or whatever and soon we have a bunch of posts of specified manifestations of WILD, each which work for a few group of people, when really there should be one general technique that everyone can work with and modify for themselves as necessary, without posting it as a different, better form of WILD.

I hope that all made sense.

for me WILD Lucid dreams are a lot more vivid and clear than a DILD's.

Second theres different type of WILD. Via sleep paralysis or visualization

When i lay in bed during a brief awakening i visualize walking around the perimeter of my house and touching things as i go. Eventually my visualization turns into a dream and im automatically Lucid.

When i achieve Lucid Dreams through visualization they can be astonishingly real.

But sleep paralysis alwas happens anyway right?

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

But sleep paralysis alwas happens anyway right?

For most people, yes, but some people don't get it.

Originally Posted by Kael Seoras

Another possibility could be that there is no one specific technique that is a one-size-fits-all, so to speak. All our minds are different, we all need slightly different ways of performing WILD. But when someone finds that way for themselves, they post it saying "this is the way that works!" or whatever and soon we have a bunch of posts of specified manifestations of WILD, each which work for a few group of people, when really there should be one general technique that everyone can work with and modify for themselves as necessary, without posting it as a different, better form of WILD.

I hope that all made sense.

You are 100% correct, there is no one size fits all. The tutorials posted here at DV are starting points for members, not ending points. With these tutorials, a person can get off to a pretty good start and then fine tune to develop their own way.

My WILD tutorial is probably the longest on the site about WILD and is pretty vague and open for a reason. Personally, I dont think Ive ever experienced two WILDs that were exactly the same and the same techniques don't work every time. The key is getting enough knowledge in peoples hands so that they realize when things are different and can adapt their induction to meet changed circumstances.