No tutorial good for definate lucidity or even a help to dreams, but I need to ask: Knowing The Sims is a good life simulator and is actually pretty fun and full of humour, would it be any good for Lucid Dreaming or atleast Dreaming?
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No tutorial good for definate lucidity or even a help to dreams, but I need to ask: Knowing The Sims is a good life simulator and is actually pretty fun and full of humour, would it be any good for Lucid Dreaming or atleast Dreaming?
In what way are you thinking of? There are probably many ways you could use the game to help gain lucidity (or maybe there are none, who knows). So maybe make it a little clearer of what you're thinking of.
Well, it's a life simulator isn't it? I just thinking, maybe someone could make advantage of that.
I don't see what you're getting at. At all.
Television is another "life simulator and is actually pretty fun and full of humour," do you suppose it enhances dreams as well?
You can't make people do things on the TV can you?
So you're saying that because you can control the characters in The Sims....... what? How would that affect your dreams in any way? Furthermore, how does that set The Sims apart from any video game?
If you play alot of a game, and really like the game, you might dream about it.
So RC when you see green, hovering crystals? Or everytime someone puts their plate on the floor to do something else...
Grr! I mean, it is more like real life than any other game! What other game lets you make your own character, dress your own character, control the full actions of your own character, control the life of your own character, control who your character likes, all in the same game?
I don't mean in reality checks or anything like that. Like for example, someone could play it on their computer whilst putting subliminal messages on saying "This will happen in your dream tonight" or something similir. If you did that on Halo or something your dream would be extremely unrealistic due to things that don't happen in real life. I'm not saying that this actually works, I'm guessing, but do you see where I'm coming from?
To say this basically, The Sims is a decently life like game and can possibly be dreamt of. I know this is unlikely but it's possibly the most likely game to be dreamt of due to it's realness.
Also, to add, there's a cheat for original Sims game for the PS2 which lets you go into first person view and literally see what your selected character can see.
Also, DuB, why so defensive? It's only an idea! :(
I apologize if I came off as hostile. I hope you don't interpret my remarks as a personal attack - although you should by all means consider them as challenges to your idea. It's not an argument, but an impersonal debate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
I think I have a little better of an idea of what you're getting at, although I still see some significant problems with it.How about real life? Why do we need a video game for these benefits you are proposing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
So are you asserting that people only dream about mundane things such as eating and socializing with people, and never about unrealistic scenarios such as those in Halo? You're dream journal must be really dry... :roll:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
Even if that were the case, wouldn't that essentially be the same concept as dream signs/reality checks, as Maeni pointed out? I.e., you find yourself in a scenario that resembles The Sims, you recognize it as a dream sign, do a reality check, etc. However, I still don't see how the game The Sims (or any video game) would fit in as a necessary part of the equation.
No I mean, it's more easy to dream up real life things than unreal things. As we never do unreal things in real life.
And no my Dream Journal isn't how you described.
:lol: Indeed :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Maeni
I see what you're saying, Jdeadevil, but it would actually work with any video game really well, and I don't think Sims would be more effective than any other game. When I was into Age of Empires I had a lot of vivid, Age of Empires related dreams.
...if I knew about dreamsigns then...
i have had many Call of Duty 4 dreams. there was one where instead of shooting people, i just had to tackle them. :? i hope from now on i can see it as a dream sign.
To be honest, I don't ever remember having a dream about a specific game. Just probably going into a game menu in general. :(
some of my video gaming dreams are in first person, while some i feel that i am actually playing a game. it is like weird lucidity. instead of being aware i am dreaming, i am aware i am playing a video game but i cannot see anything else but the game. i have a lot of these dreams...maybe i should get a life. :(
Can someone give me any tips? I want a video game dream goddamnit! :(
Try focusing on just one game for awhile. Play it nearly every day.
Right it's on, thanks. :)
usually when i have dreams involving video games it goes something like this
enemies are attacking me... i click on an enemy to attack it...i attack air...i click on a different enemy...i attack the first one...i die...i randomly teleport back to the enemies...they begin attacking me...etc.
worst part is, i forget all about the first time when the second time begins...:oops:
I don't funny understand how 'the sims' could help, i am not sure you do either?
i have had a gaming dream, the visuals where the quality of the ps-one era, think Deus ex: both visually and content wise.
I've dreamed about all kinds of games, even about tetris, the most unreal game ever :p play tetris the WHOLE day, and when you close your eyes, you will see tetris blocks everywhere!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
If you want to dream about games, just keep playing it nonstop the whole day long ^^
Well, I absolutely see where you are coming from. When you play the sims, you play god. You get to build houses, control people and animals, move objects around where ever you want them (especially if you use cheats). There's a certain... I dunno. feel to it that you are in control of absolutely everything. Even time. Maybe you could utilize this, to get yourself into the mindframe of being able to control everything. It may definitely help with your confidence during dream control. And now that I think about it, I may have had my first LD during one of my "I'm-addicted-to-The-Sims" stages haha
Hmm imagine, playing Sim City could get you used to building your own cities in a dream, or those amusement park games could help you get into the mind set of being able to build the ultimate amusement park! I think it could probably be very beneficial to dream control, especially because of the incredibly active nature of playing this game, versus passively watching tv or only controlling one character in a game.
I had a dream I was a spartan in Halo once, it was incredibly realistic and flood were hauling ass towards me. Glad I woke up from that one! That's my only video-game dream thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
I don't think you have to use subliminal messages. I had a dream about Grand Theft Auto, and later in the same dream about Oblivion.
But why would you use Sims th- Oh, I'm SO going to have lucid dreams about Spore when it comes out!
Hm, now that I think about it, Age of Empires involves controlling a lot of people too, and building stuff :P
And does the whole Command and Conquer series. :D
Ooh yea :D
Hmm, actually, I think even if you play the game for insane amounts of time, it wont just get into your dreams just because of that. There has to be something that really catches your attention.
I got Assassins Creed just a few days ago, after playing it for one day, I had a dream about that I had to cut off my own ring-finger(?) so the knife could fit.
I also think you have to be able to put yourself into the characters shoes. I think it's easier to dream about 1st person games. But that's also strange, I've only had dreams about 3rd person games. GTA, Assassins Creed, Oblivion (the way I play it).
I also had a dream about a twisted version of Toribash, where I had the same thing as I make it rain, I knew that it was a game I was playing.
Maybe it's because you get to see the way the characters body moves, so that you can step in there.
Oh, and I play alot of games, constantly, almost...
Yea, you've got a point, you've gotta be really into the game.
What if you make a game thats all about lucid dreaming? Like some sort of addicting game where you are in fact in a lucid dream which you can control.. if you dream about that game, you become lucid just like that! Are there any games like this out there? :D
That could possibly be made as a mod for The Sims. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
I think there's always the risk that you become desensitized to the fact that you are dreaming. So you think, "OMG I'm in a dream!" and then you rationalize, "No, no, wait... I'm just playing that dreaming game."Quote:
Originally Posted by ChaybaChayba
Seems a bit unlikely doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
Not at all, I already do it with movies and other things I've tried to incorporate as dream signs. "Oh, I have to remember to do a reality check next time I see that blue dog walking backwards!" after I see one go by. My sleeping mind may be unusually retarded, but... if the point is to do a reality check or question reality whenever something seems out of place, it seems counter-productive to play a game where you are constantly exposed to false, dream-realities and not doing RCs at the same time :tongue: Last night I couldn't see out of my right eye during a FA. I justified it by thinking, "Oh, it's gotta be all that dreaming I'm doing. I need to stop worrying about lucid dreams and then it'll go away." :doh:!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
Lol, don't stop thinking about Lucid Dreaming! :P
Just goes to show you how completely backwards my mind is while dreaming. The truth is that if I'd spared one moment to think about lucid dreaming, I would've had one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
The member Brandon Heat used to think like that.
used to? so, there's hope?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
Nah, the member got banned ages ago. That's why I said "Used to". But, never give up on hope, as it is all you need! You are the chosen one.
And that's what makes lucid dreaming so damn cool! :D Nah I've had 8 lucids this month alone. I'm not too concerned :tongue: because I never thought I'd be at this point!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
I don't play Sims much anymore, but there is this other game I play frequently and I've had a lot of dreams about this game in April . I should have known that I was dreaming, but....I don't know why I didn't when it was so obvious. Hope I can remember to use this as a "dream sign". I see your point though.
I would sugest you guys try the "Gary's mod" on Half life 2, think it can be downloaded for free somewhere, this has realy helpt me with telekinesis and such, I also think you should be able to use it as a teleportation and summon things aid...
I havn't got Half Life 2, :lol:
You don't need halflife, Garry made it separated from the game so it's enough to just get the mod:)...
Is it free?
Should be, think so, try googling it up a bit...
Then google I must! To the Google *Points to behind the camara*
Haha, we don't want him to turn into some un-sociable nerd!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kael Seoras
But you wont have any of the models or anything from half-life, counter strike or deathmatch... NOT RECOMMENDED.Quote:
Originally Posted by gratismat
Get Half-Life 2 (You can get it with Counter-Strike) then buy Garry's Mod (Extremely cheap, compared to it's play value) RECOMMENDED.
The reason is that over (probably) 70% of Garry's Mod is made with the things from Half-Life 2.
And yeah, it does help with telekinesis. But still, I think just getting Half-Life 2 will do better, because the HL2 Gravity Gun is much more smooth when picking up objects. The Physgun is just whack it with blue laser and then you can move it around. With the Gravity Gun it actually still has weight, and will not just blindly follow your aim. If not for that, just because HL2 = win.
Or just watch Half-Life videos...
I can see how The Sims can help. Maybe use a specific item or hack to make you lucid in your dreams.
Yeah, you're probably right, gonna play max payne later, maby the bullettime will help me with timestopping:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maeni
I reformatted my computer and went through all the trouble of backing everything up and getting my drivers to work just so I can install The Sims2. I had a dream last night that I and a group of people were were trying to escape from some people chasing us, and we were in these tunnels. Everything suddenly switched into The Sims mode and I was laying down tiles, walls, windows, staircases, and lights to build us an escape route. Except for not being able to toggle between floors (I could, but I couldn't tell which level I was on and there were about 6 levels), it worked just like the sims. I never became lucid, but when I woke up I immediately thought about this forum :tongue:
One thing to note is that the lights and windows added light perfectly, just as in the game. So I guess while you are lucid, you may be able to try placing light fixtures or windows on the wall if you can't get the room to lighten up!! I've heard a lot about lights not working in lucid dreams, but these ones didn't even require turning on. I just placed them on the wall and the place was bright.
I think something called Schizophrenia is a reqirement for that one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
I would think that the detached and 2-D nature of video (even interactive videogames like Sims) would make the dreams more 'distant' and less enriching, if it had any effect at all on them. Just a thought.
How was the realism of the items in your dream when this kicked in? Was it very natural as in real life, or did it seem more like it you were playing Sims? That might be an interesting way to condition yourself. But if it's like playing Sims, I'd rather spend my dream time on other things :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
I remember that at that point, I'd been under the impression that I had paused the entire world and was modifying it quickly so we could make our escape. I wasn't lucid, so I thought that when I unpaused, the world would keep going. It was literally just like playing the sims, with menu bars and everything, although the people and objects all looked real.Quote:
Originally Posted by RBee
But imagine if I'd become lucid (:doh: i have no idea how I didn't), and "unpaused" the game but kept putting objects on the walls. I mean if you are lucid, and it's too much like the game, you can always change it to be like RL.
Ah, ok! The reason why I asked is there have been two occasions where I've had a dream about something I saw on TV. The experience I had in that dreamscape was more like watching a movie than actually being there experiencing it. It was kind of disappointing in that respect. Yeah I could've done one of those affirmations like "Clarity now!" but I was so caught up in it the same way I do IRL when watching a really interesting tv/movie. It's not as fulfilling to me as a dream where I'm fully immersed rather than just a spectator with input.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
Note: I'm not talking about the issue of 'level of control' but the manner which I'm experiencing. It's more of a spectator vs. participant issue here.
Right, right. In that case, though... maybe you could just "pause" the dream, edit your surroundings, and then "unpause" to keep the lucid dream going. In fact, that may make it easier to try to summon things haha. Maybe. :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by RBee
No its not..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jdeadevil
You mean to tell me that most of your dreams are about realistic things like eating breakfast, going to school and taking showers?
Personally, 90% of my dreams are about completely crazy things that would almost never happen in real life.
Your dream journal really must be boring xD
I've had too many video game dreams. In most of them, I'm in some kind of FPS that's a mix of all the first person shooters I've ever played, only the enemies won't die no matter how many times they get shot. I had a sim city dream once where I had to explain to someone why I had to put pipes in underground. And I hear spore comes out September 7th! That game looks so awesome. I wish my graphics card wouldn't overheat all the time, I can't run any games anymore. Also, the best way to have video game dreams is to just play too many video games all the time. I haven't played them in a while, and I have since stopped having video game dreams.