I am trying to remember the exact point where I slip into the sleep state from the waking state. Is it possible to try and stay conscious until you fall asleep?
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I am trying to remember the exact point where I slip into the sleep state from the waking state. Is it possible to try and stay conscious until you fall asleep?
Stay conscious while you fall asleep = WILD.
ahh thanks!I find it so hard to
Yes it is extremely difficult to do if you attemp it as soon as you go to bed. Best to do it after a few hours of sleep, maybe 4 or 5 or more.
Tibetan monks can apparently remain concious during the whole sleep process, from going to sleep and night, and getting up in the morning.
that would be a boring 8 hours :P.
no, because you get to lucid dream :D
And watch hypnogogia. =DQuote:
Originally Posted by guitarboy
I have been trying every night now, I make myself believe with conviction that I will remember or realize I am falling asleep, its strange really because I can never recall the moments before falling asleep which I am sure is mostly the case. I will get back if I do manage this! I am off to bed...."I will remember falling asleep....I will remember falling asleep"
WILD, in a nutshell
1) Your body falls asleep.
2) You experience body tingling
3) You experience Hypnagogic Imagery
4) Hypnagogic Imagery gradually becomes more vivid.
5) Hypnagogic Imagery turns into a dream.
Yes. You will notice the hypnagogics suddenly change from the black or further into it the colours behind the eyelids, to a different shade of background.
This is your dream eyes clicking in. Sometimes it is subtle, but I saw it last night. It has more clarity and starts to turn the hypnagogics to fragmented picture formation.
I went passed the colorful lights and back to black behind the eyelids, and on entering the dream eyes into a deep grey clearer canvas and a wave of euphoria. Like coming out of fog into the clear night sky.
This is a good indication of when and where your pictures will start to piece together.
Not everyone experiences HH- tactile or visual ;) So, tingling and imagery are excessive to the WILD in a nutshell :tongue: I would say it's more along the lines ofQuote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Benny
1) You stay conscious
2) Your body falls asleep
3) You are in a lucid dream
Kinda hard to get more simple than that lol
Touche' your version is simpler.:poof:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shift
I am all about the basics. Yelling, and keeping things as simple as possible hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut_Benny
How long is it supposed to take? I'm laying for almost an hour and half, and while I'm getting some numbness and tingling, that's about it!:embarrassed:
It all depends on the person. It usually takes about half an hour for me to start to get anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by iank
Iank that sounds like you are at least getting some good hypnagogic hallucinations, keep it up! It depends on the person... I won't hesitate to say that practice will reduce the time. Also experience. Usually I get HH (early on in the sleep cycle of course) and I get so excited I wake myself up :doh:
In fact, i can however stay up awake all night long and stay aware, i can do this all the time. I haven't done it yet of course however. I never thought about doing it all night long, id just want to do it just to be able to lucid dream everynight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dizko
However most the time i just goto sleep without trying. But i've even be able to remain conscious all the way up to lucid dreaming very easily using jeff's tutorial. http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=42271
I literally can lay there blank my mind, keep my body still and go into SP pretty damn easy now.
I normally however lose patience after my body falls asleep. So i never make it to the lucid dreaming part. Or i just gotta go pee so bad that i can't take it no more haha.
However this morning... I stayed up all night and i laid down this morning, and i thought to myself, i gotta get to work in a few hours , so im not going to let my mind rest completly. So i kept my mind awake. I started getting Images right away soon as i close my eyes.
I start getting "Lucid Dream Images" Where a dream starts to form, all the sudden you see a whole new place. But i still know i'm in my bed room.
I tried to use this method someone wrote about trying to grab onto something in the dream.
That doesn't work at all for me... I gotta try not to do that again.
Anyways... I just wanted to say all of that cause i'm bored :)
when I am on the phone at night, I close my eyes and imediatly experiance HH.. this is a good thing right? so yeah xD
Are they true HH, or just phosphenes? i don't know I'd be concerned.Quote:
Originally Posted by magical mike