"New" Method: RC-MILD

Last night I spontaneously thought up this new mixture of techniques, gave it a shot, and it worked first try, so I figured it might be worth sharing with everyone else :)

Summary:

I call it RC-MILD, because basically what you do is MILD, only you drop the mantra and replace it with one solid, thorough reality check in hopes that this will be the last thing you really think about, and thus it will bleed into your dreams (possibly even multiple times in one night!)

How to do it:

~0: (Optional) Do reality checks during the day

~1: Get in bed and begin to go to sleep normally, but don't actually fall asleep! The point is to get close to sleep before you do the RC so as to make sure that it is the last thing you remember doing before falling completely asleep. How long you'll want to wait before forcing yourself to set up varies greatly from person to person and even night to night. Some people fall asleep faster than others, and even then everyone falls asleep faster or slower than usual based on what they did/didn't do during the day. So don't set an alarm or anything; just wait until you feel like you could fall asleep very soon, no matter how long or short of a time it takes to get there.

~2: When you feel like you're close to falling asleep, sit up and ask yourself: "Am I dreaming?" Really think about that question; don't just let it idly pass by! Look around your room, see if anything is out of the ordinary, notice little details, etc. For me, eventually this all proves inconclusive, as anything that is out of the ordinary could just be real life, but it could be a dream, and if nothing is out of the ordinary, it could be real life, but it could be a false awakening. But whether or not you feel it is conclusive evidence of your state, you should do a final check by pinching your nose and trying to breath in. I find it helpful to do this multiple times, pinching my nose with different fingers each time, or pinching it with my knuckles instead of my fingertips, so I don't accidentally really pinch my nose IRL during the dream and mess up the RC.

~3: Go to sleep. Simple as that. Don't think about anything else after this; just lay back down and let yourself go to sleep. Optimal circumstance would be that you are completely asleep within the next couple minutes and have not let your mind wander to anything else.

~4: Reality check in the dream when the impulse to do so comes.

~5: Enjoy being lucid! :D


Final Thoughts:

And that's about it! Last night I tried this and had an LD very quickly, and I hadn't done an RC during the day even once! I'd given thought to lucid dreams, but no more than usual, so I can't pin my LD on simply thinking about it, either. I really think this is what got it for me, and I'll be sure to keep trying it. Hope you all find it helpful!

Wow! Very Interesting. It may just work for me. Thumbs up.

-CV

Let us know how it works out! :)

Will do LiveInTheDream, I am sure that this might work exceptionally well. I am also trying my own technique, but I will try this one tonight instead.
If you want to check out another cool idea, look at this tut:
http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=96389

-CV

Sounds like a pretty cool method, I like that it requires that you REALLY check your surroundings, and really have to prove to yourself that you're really awake - I haven't seen as much emphasis on this particular aspect of other methods that just say to RC and make your conclusion. This one comes off as, "RC, then really RC, then REALLY RC." I like it! :D Good luck to everyone who tries this method.

This is absolute genius.
I've GOT to try this tonight.

Let us know how it goes! I'd be interested to see if it works for anyone else :)

I think I've actually managed something similar several times already. Good tactic. :)

Im one of those people who fall asleep very fast, so I am going to try this tonight. Thanks for the post!!

thanx, i'll give it a shot!

thanks good idea, ill try this right now

Interesting.

I'll give it a shot in place of a standard MILD the next time I feel like putting forth some effort.

This is very interesting.

Are you still having success with this technique, LiveInTheDream?

Anyone else getting results?

Well I have succeeded more than once, as you can see in my sig, but to be honest I haven't tried this method--or any method, really--in a very long time. Life's just been too crazy :P

Things are about to calm down for me though, so hopefully I can put more effort into experimenting with RC-MILD soon.

Thanks LiveInTheDream, for the awesome new variation on the MILD technique. I tried it last night for the first time and it worked great. I had an awesome ld! I was surprised at how little effort it took to preform the technique and yet have such great results. I just laid in bed for a while and let my thoughts run wild as i was getting closer to sleep. When i thought that i could fall asleep easily, i sat up and looked at both my alarm clock and the clock on my vcr. I would look at the clocks, turn my head, say some random time in my mind and look back to see if they changed. Of course they didn't change because i wasn't dreaming...yet. Then just to make perfectly sure that it wasn't a dream, i did the nose-pinch rc (which is what i've found to be the easiest and most reliable rc). After doing a thorough rc, i kept that as the last thought as i fell asleep. Then in one of my dreams before 6 a.m. i spontaneously thought to become lucid.

Thanks alot for the awesome technique! I'm definitely going to try an make this a routine thing before going to sleep everynight. If this worked so great the first night, i'm sure it will work again. :D

Awesome! Glad to hear it's working for someone else! Nice job :D

I don't tend to fall asleep very quickly so this technique isn't ideal for me personally.

For those trying it, though, instead of asking yourself, "Am I dreaming?" and testing before you fall asleep... another possibility would be stating, "I'm dreaming!", believing it, and holding that perception as steadily as possible for the remainder of your waking time, so it might carry over.

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Originally Posted by Lakona

I don't tend to fall asleep very quickly so this technique isn't ideal for me personally.

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Actually, it doesn't really matter how quickly you fall asleep. What matters is just that you can tell when you're close, however long it may take to get there. Everybody gets there sooner or later, it just may be harder for some to recognize when they're almost asleep, but not quite. :)

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Originally Posted by Lakona

For those trying it, though, instead of asking yourself, "Am I dreaming?" and testing before you fall asleep... another possibility would be stating, "I'm dreaming!", believing it, and holding that perception as steadily as possible for the remainder of your waking time, so it might carry over.

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I can verify this works. Did that a few months ago with success :cooler::thumbup:

I just found out about LD yesterday, but I remember when i was a kid whenever I want to wake up early at a specific time like 6am i keep repeating myself "wake up at 6, wake up at 6" and imagine the 6 in the clock. And it work all the time, I woke up at exact 6am, without using alarm clock of course. Kinda related to the OP's method i guess.

I tried it again last night. I didn't go lucid this time, but i got about as close as i could without actually getting lucid. I had a very long portion of a dream trying to teach my mom about lding. I was showing her youtube videos related to lding. It's ashame i didn't get lucid, but i believe it was the RC-MILD that gave the dream the theme of lucid dreaming. I'm going to give it another shot tonight and see if i can get another success. I'm feeling confident about it. :D

Thanks for the method!

I'll give it a go tonight and update with results in the morning ;)

interesting... what about combining this technique with your hipnosis technique? like do the hipnosis technique and replace the mantra with the thourough RC? i'll try this technique tonight by itself and see what happens. Thanks for sharing!

Definitely worth a try and seems easy!

Awesome! I'm going to try this!

So it's a DILD? I see no difference.

I do like how you emphasis the "really question" it part. But really people should know that. Of course this will help with the noobs.

And sense you took out the mantra it's no longer a MILD.

That's like saying "I'm going to make a toasted peanut butter sandwich, but instead of peanut butter I'm going to use butter." well that's just toast.

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Originally Posted by dakotahnok

That's like saying "I'm going to make a toasted peanut butter sandwich, but instead of peanut butter I'm going to use butter." well that's just toast.

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Actually, it makes a butter sandwich. Since the butter replaces the peanut butter in between two pieces of toast, it's still technically a sandwich. If it were one piece of toast, then it would be a piece of buttered toast. :|

Anyway, it's still a MILD since you are trying to burn into your memory to do a RC. You don't have to use a mantra for it to be a MILD. A MILD could be as simple as trying to incubate a dream right before you're going to sleep, or as complex as always thinking your mantra and incubating at all times. MILD, put simply, doesn't require a mantra, just something burned into your memory that will cause you to become lucid within the dream.

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Originally Posted by dakotahnok

And sense you took out the mantra it's no longer a MILD.

That's like saying "I'm going to make a toasted peanut butter sandwich, but instead of peanut butter I'm going to use butter." well that's just toast.

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I like the analogy :lol:

Don't forget what the 'M' in MILD stands for, though. It's not 'mantra', it's 'mnemonic'. Basically, anything that is a memory aid fits that description, and in this case, the reality check is being used more that way. It's supposed to be the last thing you remember. Therefore, mnemonic. See? And this method appeals to some other things traditionally associated with MILD, too, like no required preparation during the day, but instead doing all your 'preparation' right in bed as you go to sleep.

You're right, there's a lot of DILD in this, but I think RC-MILD gives a better idea of what the method is than RC-DILD (which sounds like regular DILD, and is almost redundant...but I think that was your point anyway :P ).


EDIT: I didn't see Snowboy's post before posting this...so yeah, if you see us making the same points, we are :P

Liveinthedream, you never replied to my suggestion.

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Originally Posted by Wristblade56

Liveinthedream, you never replied to my suggestion.

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Oops, sorry, I thought your reply was on a different thread that I had already responded to. My bad. :oops:

Combining methods definitely sounds like it could work, but I don't really have a lot of time to devote to lucid dreaming right now, so I'll have to wait until later to give it a shot (maybe tomorrow night?)

If you want to give it a shot I'd be interested to hear your results, though :)

sure, i'll try it right after i make myself get off this addictive contraption commonly referred to as a computer and go to bed. :cheeky:

alright, i tried the combonation... zip. of course it might work for others, i have alot of trouble focusing on a thought for longer than a few seconds.

extremely interesting, if my wbtb fails i will definately try this!
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speedoman and clyde machine's avatars are amaizing, lol i love doctor who and AIWL.

tried this last night
RC'ed in the non lucid dream but didn't get lucid >.<