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Hey, I was reading a topic, and I saw that dreams can seep into real life as hallucinations, so what if you start this real life thing the same way you started lucid dreaming, slowly gaining powers. I would like to know if you could achieve almost god-like abilities, this is where Roman and Greek gods could have gotten their powers, same thing for Merlin.
Seeker, I would love your response the most
HADES!!! AHHH!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:
.....no, the greek gods got their powers from someone saying 'i wonder why it thunders...o wait, lets make a god of thunder...i'll call him zeus' and merlin....he is a fictional character. also, how could anyone even attempt to answer the question 'is it possible to gain god-like abilities'? i really think that if someone would figure it out, they would be far to busy taking over the world to share their secret on some website.
stop wishing to be the 'god of death'; and pick up a Bible
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Originally posted by Sinar
.....no, the greek gods got their powers from someone saying 'i wonder why it thunders...o wait, lets make a god of thunder...i'll call him zeus' and merlin....he is a fictional character. also, how could anyone even attempt to answer the question 'is it possible to gain god-like abilities'? i really think that if someone would figure it out, they would be far to busy taking over the world to share their secret on some website.
stop wishing to be the 'god of death'; and pick up a Bible
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anyway no this wouldn’t work, the hallucinations are just that... hallucinations. they are all in your mind, nothing more, its just that your extremely powerful mind puts dream characters in real life, also I don’t think that it even goes past when your still in SP, now unless you want to hallucinate a world dominated by you (which is impossible in itself) no this could never work,
also, do you even understand what developing your "dream powers" means? its simply coming to a deeper realization that its just a dream, life isn’t a dream and there’s no way to "develop powers" because there’s no powers to develop.
greek gods never got no power none they used none noone saw i was there i expiranced it they were nothing but romanized garbage placed on a pedistal, I WAS GOING TO BE KING I would have RULED THE WORLD!
R.I.P
Here lies the english language. Which, on 7/20/05 at 2:57 am, was blatantly murdered
Guess your right, I was just in a creative state of mind when I wrote that. But it would be interesting to study.
When I said train the hallucinations, I meant so that they would come out in real life, just like how they came out of the dream.
It's called an 'anthropomorphic personification', those who read their Douglas Adams textbooks would know :DQuote:
Originally posted by Sinar
.....no, the greek gods got their powers from someone saying 'i wonder why it thunders...o wait, lets make a god of thunder...i'll call him zeus'
Probably You're right, Zeus might be just a personification for the Thunder and Lightning - but it's just a way of explaining these unexplainable (at those times) events so all the peasants and craftsmen could have understood it. Then again - as I've noticed from some of Your previous posts, you're a christian - have You seen Your god? Why do You think that he might not be just a personification and an attemp to explain the unexplainable? Sounds to me more like \"ancient Roman and Greek gods were nothing more than acts of nature but mine is The One and Only Way\".Quote:
Originally posted by SantaDreamsToo+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(SantaDreamsToo)</div>There are no hallucinations. Everything exists - within yourself.<!--QuoteBegin-SinarQuote:
anyway no this wouldn’t work, the hallucinations are just that... hallucinations. they are all in your mind, nothing more[/b]
.....no, the greek gods got their powers from someone saying 'i wonder why it thunders...o wait, lets make a god of thunder...i'll call him zeus' and merlin....he is a fictional character. [ - - ] stop wishing to be the 'god of death'; and pick up a Bible
As for picking up the bible - I sure hope You're just kidding. I don't like people who force their opinion to others and suffocate any option of free Choice.Supposing that gods exist : Some have gained god-like abilities - that's how they became gods. And some of them have taken over the World - it's called religion.Quote:
Originally posted by Sinar
also, how could anyone even attempt to answer the question 'is it possible to gain god-like abilities'? i really think that if someone would figure it out, they would be far to busy taking over the world to share their secret on some website.
I never said Merlin was actually real, and all of those kinds of gods (zeus, poseiden, etc...) were real, but it's just something my mind dwells over every once in a while.
technically no, i havn't seen my God. but i've had enough experiences to make up for it.
and for plobable....you just got done playng God of War didn't you?
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Originally posted by Sinar
R.I.P
Here lies the english language. Which, on 7/20/05 at 2:57 am, was blatantly murdered
im pretty sure plobable was very high when writing a few of these recent posts lol
yea i wont deny it i ocasionally... recline with a few herbal sticks
god of war looks like a nice game
I PLAY CS
please tell me you were just kiddingQuote:
Originally posted by psychedelic
There are no hallucinations. Everything exists - within yourself.
and if not please explain what you mean
Given the countless dimensions and cosmoses, everything does exist. The mind isn't a kaleidoscope, just making patterned images -- it's a telescope. It sees out into the other planes of existence and takes people, places, and things; those that you "imagine" really exist, out there, somewhere...
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Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka
Given the countless dimensions and cosmoses, everything does exist. The mind isn't a kaleidoscope, just making patterned images -- it's a telescope. It sees out into the other planes of existence and takes people, places, and things; those that you \"imagine\" really exist, out there, somewhere...
what the hell kinda avs are those. EWWWWWW get that child molester out of my site. if he was truly innocent he wouldnt have given the kids porn and wine. fuck him in the ass
Yeah, that's got a lot to do with what I SAID, doesn't it? :roll: Get a grip!Quote:
Originally posted by jay dawg
what the hell kinda avs are those. EWWWWWW get that child molester out of my site. if he was truly innocent he wouldnt have given the kids porn and wine. fuck him in the ass
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Originally posted by Rakkantekimusouka
Yeah, that's got a lot to do with what I SAID, doesn't it? :roll: Get a grip!
i was trying to reply to u but then that image of the black michel was haunting my thoughts. i like him better as a white boy. atleast hes open about his child man love ways now :oops:
Um, well, good for you. I liked him when he was young, black, and handsome, and his music was new and fresh -- not now when he's a hackneyed plastic coathanger still bleating out the same tunes, yips, and grunts, and doing the same old steps over and over.Quote:
Originally posted by jay dawg
i was trying to reply to u but then that image of the black michel was haunting my thoughts. i like him better as a white boy. atleast hes open about his child man love ways now :oops:
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Anyway...BACK ON TOPIC!
I couldn't have expressed myself better.Quote:
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please tell me you were just kidding
and if not please explain what you mean[/b]
Given the countless dimensions and cosmoses, everything does exist. The mind isn't a kaleidoscope, just making patterned images -- it's a telescope. It sees out into the other planes of existence and takes people, places, and things; those that you \"imagine\" really exist, out there, somewhere...
Hallucinations, imagination - things that "don't exist",because you can't show them to others, really exist. As I see things, nothing comes from nowhere. Everything has to come from somewhere. If You're thinking, for example, about a blue-striped cactus, then in some twisted part of the universe, it exists - because the thought has to be based on something.
This brings us actually to the "If-a-tree-falls-in-a-forest-and-nobody-is-around-to-hear-it-fall, does-it-make-a-sound"-reverse. If I hear a sound, has a tree fallen? Yes, because sounds don't come from nowhere. Same with visual images. Fitting this saying into context, if a person sees a "non-existent" thing, a hallucination for example, it exists - because can he see a non-existent thing?
Didn't make much sense though - I'm not as able to express myself in english than in my native language.
This conversation should continue here actually, for it's completely off-topic.
On the other hand... maybe I am just kidding. No-one knows.
please dude. if someone sees like a pink or purple cat in a dream thats not cuz its real somewhere. its cuz his mind mixed what is real with an outcome that is not. such as the real colors and a real cat. so what you said makes no sense.
and other people whos mind spazz out on them at the idea "woah does a tree make a noise" shit, they are too dumb to realize its all pysical including the sound waves which are produced no matter who is near to perceive them. that would be like wodering if a star exploding in outer space is gonna make a sound. "well if i didnt hear it...."
Indeed. Sound Waves. The tree produces sound waves, but it's the the ear which catches these sound waves and converts them into sound we hear. So it doesn't make a sound when no-one's there to hear.Quote:
Originally posted by jay dawg
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and other people whos mind spazz out on them at the idea \"woah does a tree make a noise\" shit, they are too dumb to realize its all pysical including the sound waves which are produced no matter who is near to perceive them. that would be like wodering if a star exploding in outer space is gonna make a sound. \"well if i didnt hear it....\"
Ah, that wasn't what I was trying to explain. I was talking about the reverse of this thing. When a tree falls, and someone happens to be near it, the someone hears the sound. The reverse would be - when someone is near a tree and hears a sound, then the tree must have fallen. (not counting the possibility of someone playing a tape-recorder with the falling-tree sound).
But let us leave this off-topic conversation. I posted a link in my previous post which guides us to an appropriate thread for this kind of talk.
(This was a miserable attempt to explain that something can\'t come from nowhere)
No, Merlin was just a magician like any other magician today. Think David Copperfield. How would you react if you didn't know it was a trick. What David Copperfield does is incredible and amazing. But you know it's a trick, therefor you know you are safe. But what if you didn't know it was a trick? That's how Merlin got his powers.
And Merlin wasn't a fictional character. Of course nobody knows, but historians believe that he existed.
uhhh...i seriously dont now what the hell you are talking about lol.
Sorry if its just me =P
How do you know???Quote:
Originally posted by jay dawg
please dude. if someone sees like a pink or purple cat in a dream thats not cuz its real somewhere. its cuz his mind mixed what is real with an outcome that is not. such as the real colors and a real cat. so what you said makes no sense.
and other people whos mind spazz out on them at the idea \"woah does a tree make a noise\" shit, they are too dumb to realize its all pysical including the sound waves which are produced no matter who is near to perceive them. that would be like wodering if a star exploding in outer space is gonna make a sound. \"well if i didnt hear it....\"
Seriously, try to answer the question above.
As for Psychedelic, I hoped for a second he might be a phenomenalist(someone who believes all that exists exists within the mind), as that is an interesting and perfectly valid philosophy and would be nice for a debate, but now it appears he is simply a Naive Realist(believes that senses directly present outside reality). To make an objection to this from a materialist perspective, yes hallucinations are real, but the action percieved isn't objectively occuring, it only appears so due to freak brain activity.
...And then Burn it!!!!Quote:
pick up a bible[/b]
I couldn't resist.
haha nice.
i personally know enlightenment is the realization that our ultimate reality is just our perception of it.
what was your question?