Shared Dream Battle Tutorial and Hypothesis

This is an updated version and compilation of some other posts I made about five years ago.

Dream Battle Laws and Hypotheses

If you think this is ridiculous, please test out these laws in your lucid dream battles to see if they work or not. I challenge you to disprove these laws through your dreams.

To understand Dream Battling, you must understand the Laws of the Dream Plane. Just as there are physical laws, physics, there are dreamical laws, dreamics.

First some laws of the dream plane:

1) The dream plane is made of pure energy.

2) Thoughts are pure energy.

3) There are different types of beings in dreams: DC's, dreamers, interdimensional beings, non-sentient beings, and semi-sentient beings.

a) DC's: Dream Characters. Manifestations of a dreamer's mind. They will disappear as soon as the dream stops thinking about them.
b) Dreamers: Other dreamers from Earth, the physical plane.
c) Inter-dimensional Beings: Sentient beings not from earth.
d) non-sentient beings: these creatures are alive, yet have the mind of a simple organism such as a clam.
e) semi-sentient: these are creatures that are partially aware of themselves, such as many animals.

4) We all have an Inner World. Our Inner World is an infinite world of our subconscious mind's creation. "My" dream is a dream in my Inner World.

5) The Outer World is the dream plane beyond a meeting of minds. The Outer World is another total plane of existence.

6) Each Dimension is made of three planes: the dream plane, the physical plane, the astral plane.

The Physical Plane
The physical plane is where the physical waking world is. Brainwave frequencies: beta/alpha

The Astral Plane
The astral plane is between the dream plane and the physical. The astral plane is the real of remote viewing and astral projection. In the astral plane, you perceive some of the physical plane, and some of the dream plane simultaneously. Remote viewers are taught to filter out the dream plane, and focus on the physical by keeping their eyes open. Astral projection is more spiritually focused, and intentional AP'ers (which is inducing and out-of-body-experience), will be more aware of the dream plane. People astral project in their sleep all the time. This is also induced through meditation. Brainwave frequencies: alpha/theta

The Dream Plane
The dream plane is a plane of pure energy. Thought appears instantly on the dream plane. Intelligent and creative people can be very powerful on the dream plane no matter what state their physical body is in. Brainwave frequencies: theta/delta

Different types of Battle scenarios:

Dreamer vs. DC's:
If you are fighting your own DC's, you can instantly kill them all, love them all, or ignore them, and they will be instantly defeated. If you are battling another person's DC's, you are indirectly fighting that person, so see the rules of dreamer vs. dreamer, and dreamer vs. sentient being.

Dreamer vs. Dreamer:
- In this scenario archetype, attention, and energy are all key.

Dreamer vs. Inter-dimensional or Sentient Being
- The rules are basically the same for fighting dreamer vs. dreamer, but generally inter-dimensional beings are more aware of the dream plane, especially whether they are in someone else's dream, their dream, a mix of the two, or in the Outer World. They may or may not have a physical body in their home dimension. They may have been living on the dream plane for centuries, or untold millennia, therefore can be extremely powerful.

Archetypes
Archetype means our frame of reference. Here's an example: You are into magic, so you shoot fireballs at an enemy. He becomes a water elemental, and puts out your fireballs. Another person fires a gun instead. The opponent becomes a block of granite. These are examples of a countering defense based on archetype. A good example of this is the wizard vs. witch battle at the end of The Sword in the Stone. Other examples of dream battling: Dragon Ball Z, Avatar, D&D.

- Even if you ignore a dreamer's attack, you will still get attacked, because the other dreamer is sending antagonistic energy toward you which will not disappear just because you ignore the dreamer, since the dreamer is more than a manifestation of your thought.

- There is always a weakness in every attack that can be exploited for a defensive counterattack. The weakness is based on the originator's archetypes. For example: The weakness of fire is water.

Attention
Attention is focusing energy. If you give another dreamer too much attention, they can actually steal your energy.

Example: Tooth moves to attack me in slow motion, with a giant zombie fist. I am fascinated yet disgusted with the detail of the zombie fist. I can see the rotting flesh, and even maggots crawling in it. I want to puke. BAM! He socks me right in the forehead.

So, in the example, I gave so much attention to his fist, it consumed my thoughts for a split second, and he was able to get a hit in. In other words, he stole my energy for a second by stealing my attention.

Energy can be pulled using attention in any way. Using Cuteness, Beauty, Sexiness, Disgustingness, Size, Ugliness, Hilarity, Sympathy, Fear are some techniques to name a few.

Solution: Learn how to be aware of everything. Do not allow any one thing to draw your focus for too long. This can be likened to Perseus using a shield as a mirror so as not to look into the face of Medusa.

A waking life analogy is being too enemy-oriented. In other words, you spend too much of your time and energy thinking about your enemies.


Energy

The entire dream plane is energy. Therefore ignoring another dreamer's attack is not effective. Energy gives us strength and endurance. There are basically two types of attacks, a pull attack, and a push attack. A pull attack is taking the opponent's energy away.

Dreamer vs. Non-sentient beings

Non-sentient beings that will attack you are parasites. The benign non-sentient beings draw energy from the ambient energy. There are also non-sentient beings that draw energy from these, like animals, and so on. These parasites attach to you, or infect your dream body and feed off of your energy.

Dreamer vs. Semi-Sentient Beings

These may be beings evolving toward sentience. They are like many of the animals, such as dogs, which have a level of sentience, but not to the level of elephants, dolphins, or humans. These may be simple minded, but they may have been living on the dream plane for a long time. They may attack in packs or swarms.

Dream Battle Tutorial

1)First you must learn the basics:

a) Flying

b) Breathing underwater, breathing in space

c) Invulnerability

These basics are mastery over your dream body. You must believe and visualize yourself doing these things during your waking life.

2)Battle dream characters.

Get used to what it feels like to fight in a dream. You will learn some method of fighting based on whatever you think is badass. it can be literally anything, from guns to superpowers, to kung fu to magic to becoming a cyborg, or flying a mech, you will do, because that is what you want to do. This will make your dreams badass, which will increase recall.

3)Every time you are afraid, fight the enemy. This will keep you lucid, because you just say to yourself, "This is a dream," and fight impossible enemies.

4) Be open to gifts from other entities. If you don't believe this is possible, you will not receive dream gifts.

5) Be open to learn powers from other entities.

6) Find a shared lucid dreaming partner, and fight with them.

7) Learn from them as you fight.

8) Be creative. The more creative you are, the more you can distract the enemy.

9) Pull focus. Do things slowly, before an attack, for example, charging a weapon for an attack will force the attacker to look at the weapon, making it more real to the person looking at it, thus giving it power.

10) Learn how to ignore. If you don't want to fight a DC, ignore it. When fighting a real person, learn to ignore their charge attacks. Be aware, but do not stare.

11) Be aware that a real person can more easily induce fear. You must learn to tell yourself not to be afraid, for it is a dream.

12) Be aware that a real person can induce pain. In my experience the pain is not physical pain, so you must learn to tell yourself the pain is not real, this is a dream.

13) Be aware of the power of another mind to confuse you. People may do simple things such as ask you nonsense questions, to draw your mental focus into something that doesn't make sense. They may talk in the second person, or the first person as your voice, which is very disorienting.

14) Do whatever attack you think is coolest. This is always the easiest thing to do, because it's easy to visualize. This also increased the badassery of your dreams, which increases dream recall.

15)Ask your Dream Guide to teach you how to fight.

16) Do something new in every dream battle.

Why do I have the strong feeling of already having read this thread recently?
If I am not wrong, someone pointed out the fact that all those affirmations are dangerous in a way, which I agree and I would add, no offense, that some "is is possible that", "could" would be more accurate unless this thread is supposed to be a kind of sectarian gathering of believers.

I know that some people won't appreciate what I just said, but...my 2 cents anyway.

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Originally Posted by Kaan

Why do I have the strong feeling of already having read this thread recently?

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SEE: the very first sentence of the post.

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Originally Posted by Kaan

If I am not wrong, someone pointed out the fact that all those affirmations are dangerous in a way, which I agree and I would add, no offense, that some "is is possible that", "could" would be more accurate unless this thread is supposed to be a kind of sectarian gathering of believers.

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"All those affirmations"? What are you referring to? The only affirmation I see is, "This is a dream."

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Originally Posted by Baking Nomad

SEE: the very first sentence of the post.



"All those affirmations"? What are you referring to? The only affirmation I see is, "This is a dream."
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Well, from point 1 to point 6 I guess, but maybe it wasn't clear in my mind that those 6 points were only the hypothesis.
If fact, I presume that the whole thread is 100% made of hypothesis, I just hope that this is clear for everyone, cause if not, some will buy it as facts instead of beliefs, and this is what I would find dangerous.

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Originally Posted by Kaan

Well, from point 1 to point 6 I guess, but maybe it wasn't clear in my mind that those 6 points were only the hypothesis.
If fact, I presume that the whole thread is 100% made of hypothesis, I just hope that this is clear for everyone, cause if not, some will buy it as facts instead of beliefs, and this is what I would find dangerous.

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See, title of the thread.

I hope some people buy this as facts instead of beliefs, because, oo, I love danger! lol

^^ Nice.

You might love danger, Nomad, but others who might read these things you write and accept them as fact (because you said they were) might not appreciate being misled by you, when they eventually figure it out.

This might be all fun for you, Nomad, but you really ought to be a bit more responsible with your words... people do listen to them, and respect them.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Nice.

You might love danger, Nomad, but others who might read these things you write and accept them as fact (because you said they were) might not appreciate being misled by you, when they eventually figure it out.

This might be all fun for you, Nomad, but you really ought to be a bit more responsible with your words... people do listen to them, and respect them.

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He may sound very confident, but it does say "hypothesis" in the title. I honestly sound like it is a fun fighting system, and since I am going into Lucid Urth, I might as well use the same fighting types as him.

^^ Yes, it may say "hypothesis" in the title, but I (and I imagine Kaan as well) was speaking to the long list of "dream battle laws" and other items presented as facts supporting the hypothesis, and not in any sort of hypothetical way. If Nomad were hypothetically presenting that support as the foundation for some sort of fictitious shared-dreaming game or adventure, that would be fine, but he seems to be presenting many things as genuine fact when much of it very likely is not.

If the entire body of the OP was meant to be fictitious or hypothetical, that was not communicated well and I simply misunderstood...of course, others will likely misunderstand as well, which was sort of my point.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Nice.

You might love danger, Nomad, but others who might read these things you write and accept them as fact (because you said they were) might not appreciate being misled by you, when they eventually figure it out.

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If you think this is ridiculous, please test out these laws in your lucid dream battles to see if they work or not. I challenge you, Sageous, to disprove these laws through your dreams. It's ironic that the people arguing with me about this shit don't actually try to disprove it in their dreams. Literally none of the naysayers and scepdiks have disproved anFy of this in their dreams. Most of the naysayers don't even have dream journals, but y'all sure do post a lot of, "Oh, be careful!" "Oh, you're wrong!" over and over again. It's the same basic two messages, but you just make it longer with lots of words.

Go dream about it, post your dream challenging the laws, then get back to me. Otherwise, I don't really want to hear from you, and your words are just fluff, like clouds with no rain that dissipate before the noonday sun.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

This might be all fun for you, Nomad, but you really ought to be a bit more responsible with your words... people do listen to them, and respect them.

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I ought to do whatever the fuck I want, and what myself is telling myself to say is whatever the fuck I want to say. So fuck it, I say what the fuck I want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4yGMdZb_OI

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Yes, it may say "hypothesis" in the title, but I (and I imagine Kaan as well) was speaking to the long list of "dream battle laws" and other items presented as facts supporting the hypothesis, and not in any sort of hypothetical way. If Nomad were hypothetically presenting that support as the foundation for some sort of fictitious shared-dreaming game or adventure, that would be fine, but he seems to be presenting many things as genuine fact when much of it very likely is not.

If the entire body of the OP was meant to be fictitious or hypothetical, that was not communicated well and I simply misunderstood...of course, others will likely misunderstand as well, which was sort of my point.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Et1siZhTk

If someone is an idiot, that's their problem. I don't dumb down shit for the idiot masses.

No harm done

ha ha, according to this reaction, I don't regret to have pointed out what I consider as dangerous affirmations (cause indeed they are).
gurus generally don't like much to be contradicted about the beliefs they spread out.
Are you aware that you act as one of those gurus ?

I was genuinely excited when you reemerged on DV recently, Nomad. Not so much anymore. Your new attitude is successfully drowning anything interesting you have to say now. And that is a real shame.

You're right; I cannot disprove any of this, just as you cannot disprove anything I might say; the statement itself is absurd, and I think you know that. Here's a thought, though: How about you prove all of this in my dreams? You, the mighty dream warrior, ought to be able to come and give me a lesson any time, right? That said:

Also, I'm hardly a nay-sayer. I've been at this for a very long time, and have had many of what I could conclude were dream-sharing events, yet I have never come across any of these laws you describe (aside from everything being energy, of course, because, well, it is), and have certainly never encountered a need to do battle. You'd think by now I would have... that for me is a far more powerful proof of the things you've written being totally imaginary (nothing wrong with that, BTW)

Finally, no one was asking you to dumb down anything; I have no idea from where you got that.

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Originally Posted by Sageous;2176670How about [I

you[/I] prove all of this in my dreams? You, the mighty dream warrior, ought to be able to come and give me a lesson any time, right?

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Be careful what you wish for! I think Baking Nomad has an obsessive personality when it comes to dream battles. I heared that he has stalked The Cusp until it got annoying! :D

^^ Maybe we'll see...

Ok, I just don't see the dangers in anything that has been said in this thread. I think it's a pretty well-thought out theory at least.

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Ok, I just don't see the dangers in anything that has been said in this thread. I think it's a pretty well-thought out theory at least.

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I myself have been wondering what the dangers are.

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Ok, I just don't see the dangers in anything that has been said in this thread. I think it's a pretty well-thought out theory at least.

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Neither do I ;-)
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-_WXeqn3ewu...00/solor01.jpg

:chuckle:

I'm working out dream-fighting skills. I hope to use them with Sageous at some point. Cus I like Sageous. It doesn't have to be violent, in this OP's theory there are many options.

^^ If it's with me, it likely won't be violent at all...but you might still lose! ;)

...all you need is love...

PS, I don't like fighting my DC. You never know who they are. Maybe a higher entity and this is a test and you failed miserably. Also, it's not a nice thing to do.

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ If it's with me, it likely won't be violent at all...but you might still lose! ;)

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Sageous seals their energies into two kids playing rock paper scissors, but puts his consciousness inside the one that is going to win. you genius you. Lol.

I personally love fighting and see no harm in it. Even if it is another entity:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/4e6298d1c...2ur7o4_500.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ If it's with me, it likely won't be violent at all...but you might still lose! ;)

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I already lost :damnit: *admits death.

Wait. Dthought's pride takes a good look at itself and says: Never surrender....:sniper:

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Originally Posted by Sageous

I was genuinely excited when you reemerged on DV recently, Nomad. Not so much anymore. Your new attitude is successfully drowning anything interesting you have to say now. And that is a real shame.

You're right; I cannot disprove any of this, just as you cannot disprove anything I might say; the statement itself is absurd, and I think you know that. Here's a thought, though: How about you prove all of this in my dreams? You, the mighty dream warrior, ought to be able to come and give me a lesson any time, right? That said:

Also, I'm hardly a nay-sayer. I've been at this for a very long time, and have had many of what I could conclude were dream-sharing events, yet I have never come across any of these laws you describe (aside from everything being energy, of course, because, well, it is), and have certainly never encountered a need to do battle. You'd think by now I would have... that for me is a far more powerful proof of the things you've written being totally imaginary (nothing wrong with that, BTW)

Finally, no one was asking you to dumb down anything; I have no idea from where you got that.

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I have no new attitude. I've always been a cocky asshole since you got on DV. I was kind of a puss about six years ago, back when I first joined, and I copped an attitude way before you got here, bub.

I am telling people to try out this shit for themselves, don't take my word for it. Don't trust me. I am a stranger. Learn from your own experience. If you don't believe it, I really don't give a shit. Try it out for yourself to disprove it to yourself. I have nothing to prove to others. I only have shit to prove to myself.

You have no dream public journal. no point in trying to battle you to prove shit. Plus, there would be no point for any other reason. You would still antagonize me over DV every chance you get. I'd really like to put you on my Ignore list, after your barely subtle ad hominem attacks but apparently you've become a mod, so the software won't let me. I actually had you on my ignore list for a couple years or so, because of your habit of cyberstalking me on this DV, with your subtle negative insults, arguing with me on everything I say, then backpedaling, and saying you agree. *yawn*

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Originally Posted by Kaan

ha ha, according to this reaction, I don't regret to have pointed out what I consider as dangerous affirmations (cause indeed they are).
gurus generally don't like much to be contradicted about the beliefs they spread out.
Are you aware that you act as one of those gurus ?

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I am exactly like one of "those gurus", and I always will be, by your perception, and your perception is all that matters to you, as it always will.
Funny thing is, you haven't contradicted any of the "affirmations", only said they are dangerous. What I'd like to know is what of these "affirmations" are dangerous?

Your fear gives other beings weapon against you.
Your fear that something will do harm to you is affirmation and it will happen because of it.

Free your mind of thought observe only, the more are you unatached the less dangers you can run into. I know I'm applying ways of OBE into LD, but it functions. LD may transform into OBE if your state of consciousness is right.

Here is a dream in which I battled Morpheus, God of Dreams. This dream was absolutely mind blowing. The whole day after I had it, I was walking around dazed from the dream.

02.09.2009
In which I meet Morpheus, the god of dreams (WILD)

Since I have been able to easily transform into Pan, and Selene, the moon goddess, appeared in the Temple of Artemis to make love to me, I thought it would be cool to try and meet Morpheus, the god of dreams, and add another chapter to my Greek epic series of dreams. I got the idea from Endymion. Thanks for the inspiration, bro'!
I used the music induction, and it worked really well. It became a soundtrack to my dream, and I could hear the voice saying, "this is a dream," keeping me lucid. When the music became silent, the dream would begin to fade. I tried this with music once before, but I had it playing too quietly that time.

I decided I would become Pan. I was on the edge of a half-dead swamp. It was a creepy slimy place. The trees were all dead or half-dead, black and gnarled. Moss hung from their branches and blew in the wind like half-decomposed rags still clinging to the corpse of someone hung from a tree, and left to rot. A greenish slime grew over everything, turning black like mold when dead.

In front of me was a narrow stone bridge over a chasm. On the other side of the bridge was a great wrought iron gate, about maybe thirty feet high, with spikes at the top.http://sameer.deviantart.com/art/gat...rpheus-3154290 The gate looked ancient, and was leaning on its hinges. It looked like it hadn't been opened for decades or centuries, but was still very strong. The gate was right up against the edge of the bridge, so you had to stand on the bridge as the gate opened to go inside.

The bridge looked weak and dangerous.

There were two giant slimy monsters on each side of the gate, black and bulbous. Imagine a worm that is shaped like a sphere. They were covered in different sized eyes, and had little mouths ringed with tiny sharp teeth. They pulsed, and made disgusting slurping noises. I ignored them to weaken them.

I didn't want to cross the bridge, for fear it might collapse under me. I wanted the gate to be opened first.

I stood at the edge of the bridge, and bellowed, "Morpheus! Morpheus, open the gate!" Hollow laughter echoed all around me. I got angry and stomped on the ground, sending a shockwave forward, destroying the bridge. It fell into the chasm. I started to float across the chasm toward the gate. The chasm was filled with writhing pale white worms, about the size of a child's leg, like great parasites. The reached up and grabbed me, and pulled me down into them, up to my waist. They were crawling all over my legs, and were beginning to creep up my torso.

"This is a dream. Therefore I feel no pain." (I told myself this, because sometimes I actually feel pain in dreams.) "Morpheus!" I screamed angrily. I was hoping the worms would stop or disappear, but they did not let go. "I can fly, even as Pan," I told myself. With a roar, I shot straight up into the air, breaking the worms' grip on me.

I hovered in a standing position. I saw the castle of the Lord of Dreams in the distance, the base shrouded in mist. It was huge, towering hundreds of feet into the sky, built of obsidian, and each tower was a great spike.

http://hideyoshi.deviantart.com/art/...stle-122173357

The bird in the song became a little zombie songbird watching me from a tree. I felt like it was amused at the worms attacking me. It seemed to be mocking me with its song. Just then, dozens of tiny zombie songbirds came at me from all directions, landing on me, and tearing into my flesh. "This is a dream, I feel no pain." I had to remind myself again.

I transformed into a giant fly. My exoskeleton was too hard for them to penetrate. The birds fell off me, no longer able to maintain their grip. I then transformed into a honeybee, thinking a bee's exoskeleton is harder, just in case the birds came back for a second attack.

Everything looked like a strange kaleidoscope through my bee eyes, and I transformed back into Pan so I had more human like vision. I focused on the castle, and started flying toward it in a vertical position, suddenly the gate was blocking my path. I felt the presence of the two monsters on my right and left, but I ignored them. I grabbed the gate, and ripped it off of its hinges, as it dug into my flesh to punish me for my impudence.

I began flying toward the castle again. As I flew, the castle maintained its distance. "Morpheus! I demand to see you!"

The music stopped. The castle disappeared. Everything disappeared, including my body. I was floating in a great white void. I went into third person to see myself, and all I could see was my soul, a faint flame, and white everywhere, no shadows, no colors, no shapes. The void frightened me, and then I reminded myself it was a dream.

Morpheus then appeared. He was a tall pale bald man with large bushy black eyebrows, and tiny piercing icy bue eyes, in a long dark robe, purple and black. There were spikes coming up out of his shoulders like armor. He looked at me sternly, then began walking without saying a word. I fell into step next to him, then his appearance changed to Morpheus from The Matrix, then, dozens and dozens of different random people like the Scramble Suit in A Scanner Darkly.

He stopped. The music changed, or started up again, and beautiful vines grew and swirled around us on the ground. Grass, bushes and trees grew up around us, and animals began to inhabit the forest. I tried to remember questions I wanted to ask him.

He spoke first. "I, together with my brothers, create every dream and every nightmare for you. We are beauty, and ugliness, ecstasy and pain. We are everything you love, and everything you seek to destroy."

The dream started to lose clarity at this point, so I stared down at my arms. I had large hairy Pan arms. I kept staring at my arms until the skin looked very real.

He looked at me staring down at my arms, and was amused. Suddenly, we were in a room in his castle. It looked like a wizard's study. He was sitting in a chair on a short pedestal, maybe four inches off of the ground. Strewn about the room were many books. The walls were lined with bookshelves, and there were books on the tables. There was a huge globe next to him, a huge stone sphere which was a pale translucent green, with a thread fo gold going through it. I kneeled down to look at the globe, fascinated by its beauty. There were various strange magical odds and ends, but I didn't pay much attention to them, for the face of Morpheus kept changing still, but his clothes no longer did. Suddenly his appearance stopped changing, and he looked like a stern wizard again. I tried to remember my questions.

"Who are you?" I asked.

"I am everyone you ever have met and everyone you ever will meet in a dream. I am you. I am everyone and no one at the same time."

"How do I stay lucid longer?"

He paused, and chuckled. "You already know, or you will know, or you have known all your life." Then, I felt him communicating telepathically to me: You are lucid right now. You know this is a dream. You know what you need to do. You don't need to ask me anything. You already have the answer, for I am you, O great Pan. (The phrase "O great Pan," he said sarcastically, as if he knew I wasn't Pan himself, but only me becoming Pan in my dreams. Of course he would know that I was not Pan, him being me.) I couldn't think of any more questions, and the dream ended.

Personal dream goals accomplished:
Meet Morpheus, god of dreams
Fly in a vertical position

Powers exercised:
transforming into Pan
transforming into other animals
super strength
flight
shockwaves

02.09.2009
In which I meet Morpheus, the god of dreams (WILD)

NON-DREAM DREAM LUCID

Since I have been able to easily transform into Pan, and Selene, the moon goddess, appeared in the Temple of Artemis to make love to me, I thought it would be cool to try and meet Morpheus, the god of dreams, and add another chapter to my Greek epic series of dreams. I got the idea from Endymion. Thanks for the inspiration, bro'!
I used the music induction, and it worked really well. It became a soundtrack to my dream, and I could hear the voice saying, "this is a dream," keeping me lucid. When the music became silent, the dream would begin to fade. I tried this with music once before, but I had it playing too quietly that time.

I decided I would become Pan. I was on the edge of a half-dead swamp. It was a creepy slimpy place. The trees were all dead or half-dead, black and gnarled. Moss hung from their branches and blew in the wind like half-decomposed rags still clinging to the corpse of someone hung from a tree, and left to rot. A greenish slime grew over everything, turning black like mold when dead.

In front of me was a narrow stone bridge over a chasm. On the other side of the bridge was a great wrought iron gate, about maybe thirty feet high, with spikes at the top.http://sameer.deviantart.com/art/gat...rpheus-3154290 The gate looked ancient, and was leaning on its hinges. It looked like it hadn't been opened for decades or centuries, but was still very strong. The gate was right up against the edge of the bridge, so you had to stand on the bridge as the gate opened to go inside.

The bridge looked weak and dangerous.

There were two giant slimy monsters on each side of the gate, black and bulbous. Imagine a worm that is shaped like a sphere. They were covered in different sized eyes, and had little mouths ringed with tiny sharp teeth. They pulsed, and made disgusting slurping noises. I ignored them to weaken them.

I didn't want to cross the bridge, for fear it might collapse under me. I wanted the gate to be opened first.

I stood at the edge of the bridge, and bellowed, "Morpheus! Morpheus, open the gate!" Hollow laughter echoed all around me. I got angry and stomped on the ground, sending a shockwave forward, destroying the bridge. It fell into the chasm. I started to float across the chasm toward the gate. The chasm was filled with writhing pale white worms, about the size of a child's leg, like great parasites. The reached up and grabbed me, and pulled me down into them, up to my waist. They were crawling all over my legs, and were beginning to creep up my torso.

"This is a dream. Therefore I feel no pain." (I told myself this, because sometimes I actually feel pain in dreams.) "Morpheus!" I screamed angrily. I was hoping the worms would stop or disappear, but they did not let go. "I can fly, even as Pan," I told myself. With a roar, I shot straight up into the air, breaking the worms' grip on me.

I hovered in a standing position. I saw the castle of the Lord of Dreams in the distance, the base shrouded in mist. It was huge, towering hundreds of feet into the sky, built of obsidian, and each tower was a great spike.

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The bird in the song became a little zombie songbird watching me from a tree. I felt like it was amused at the worms attacking me. It seemed to be mocking me with its song. Just then, dozens of tiny zombie songbirds came at me from all directions, landing on me, and tearing into my flesh. "This is a dream, I feel no pain." I had to remind myself again.

I transformed into a giant fly. My exoskeleton was too hard for them to penetrate. The birds fell off me, no longer able to maintain their grip. I then transformed into a honeybee, thinking a bee's exoskeleton is harder, just in case the birds came back for a second attack.

Everything looked like a strange kaleidoscope through my bee eyes, and I transformed back into Pan so I had more human like vision. I focused on the castle, and started flying toward it in a vertical position, suddenly the gate was blocking my path. I felt the presence of the two monsters on my right and left, but I ignored them. I grabbed the gate, and ripped it off of its hinges, as it dug into my flesh to punish me for my impudence.

I began flying toward the castle again. As I flew, the castle maintained its distance. "Morpheus! I demand to see you!"

The music stopped. The castle disappeared. Everything disappeared, including my body. I was floating in a great white void. I went into third person to see myself, and all I could see was my soul, a faint flame, and white everywhere, no shadows, no colors, no shapes. The void frightened me, and then I reminded myself it was a dream.

Morpheus then appeared. He was a tall pale bald man with large bushy black eyebrows, and tiny piercing icy bue eyes, in a long dark robe, purple and black. There were spikes coming up out of his shoulders like armor. He looked at me sternly, then began walking without saying a word. I fell into step next to him, then his appearance changed to Morpheus from The Matrix, then, dozens and dozens of different random people like the Scramble Suit in A Scanner Darkly.

He stopped. The music changed, or started up again, and beautiful vines grew and swirled around us on the ground. Grass, bushes and trees grew up around us, and animals began to inhabit the forest. I tried to remember questions I wanted to ask him.

He spoke first. "I, together with my brothers, create every dream and every nightmare for you. We are beauty, and ugliness, ecstasy and pain. We are everything you love, and everything you seek to destroy."

The dream started to lose clarity at this point, so I stared down at my arms. I had large hairy Pan arms. I kept staring at my arms until the skin looked very real.

He looked at me staring down at my arms, and was amused. Suddenly, we were in a room in his castle. It looked like a wizard's study. He was sitting in a chair on a short pedestal, maybe four inches off of the ground. Strewn about the room were many books. The walls were lined with bookshelves, and there were books on the tables. There was a huge globe next to him, a huge stone sphere which was a pale translucent green, with a thread fo gold going through it. I kneeled down to look at the globe, fascinated by its beauty. There were various strange magical odds and ends, but I didn't pay much attention to them, for the face of Morpheus kept changing still, but his clothes no longer did. Suddenly his appearance stopped changing, and he looked like a stern wizard again. I tried to remember my questions.

"Who are you?" I asked.

"I am everyone you ever have met and everyone you ever will meet in a dream. I am you. I am everyone and no one at the same time."

"How do I stay lucid longer?"

He paused, and chuckled. "You already know, or you will know, or you have known all your life." Then, I felt him communicating telepathically to me: You are lucid right now. You know this is a dream. You know what you need to do. You don't need to ask me anything. You already have the answer, for I am you, O great Pan. (The phrase "O great Pan," he said sarcastically, as if he knew I wasn't Pan himself, but only me becoming Pan in my dreams. Of course he would know that I was not Pan, him being me.) I couldn't think of any more questions, and the dream ended.

Personal dream goals accomplished:
Meet Morpheus, god of dreams
Fly in a vertical position

Powers exercised:
transforming into Pan
transforming into other animals
super strength
flight
shockwaves

This was one of the most amazing dreams I've ever had. Totally mindblowing. The reason is because I felt/knew in the dream that Morpheus is an independent sentient entity, and when I woke I couldn't shake that feeling. I learned a lot from the trials I went through to just meet him.

This OBE happened some 5 years ago:

I'm waiting in long greyish white corridor with the doors on one side. I wait in front of one particular door for long time. I'm standing waiting but I'm not bored. I have white clothes. The door opens and my friend comes out of it. She just died and I was waiting for her on the other side. I'm her guide and I feel need to protect her. She takes route to the right side of corridor and I'm walking with her. We walk for some time. She is quiet and I don't feel need to talk. The surrounding goes darker, the walls are slowly changing into rough masonry, the corridor gets dirtier, the doors are rough wooden, barred small windows.
At once, we were separated. I see her writhing on the floor crying with fear, even if there is nothing to fear. "Wait for me, I will help you" I sent her.
I'm going further down the corridor. The surrounding changed into cave. There are beings looking like dirty cavemen, some of them have horns on their head. I'm going further and further down into this miserable conditions... I'm feeling how it is affecting me. I'm trying to find a way to my friend... to help. The cavemen are starting to swarm me... They are tugging on my limbs, jeering. I understand what is happening. And I understand what I have to do. I'm reaching inside myself, I'm finding the balance. The peace is surrounding me. I'm starting to shine in blue violet aura. Demons immediately jump away from me. They run away... They are observing me from distance and are worried. They are muttering: "Lucifer is back"
I'm walking through the chambers and corridors and I'm trying to find my way to my friend till OBE ends.

Other experience of attack more than 10 years ago.
I'm walking on large plane, there is grass on the surface. I see some kind of structure, building. I'm walking there. Everything is peaceful. I'm in balance. I get into building and I get stabbed by man with knife. I'm feeling how I'm dying. I'm calm. Man stabs me a few times before I decide that dying isn't the best I can do while OBEing. I concentrate inside myself, I feel energy inside my body and I'm standing up. Man stabs me again. "Die already!" I'm turning and walking directly into wall... and going through. Attacker can't go after me. I'm walking and observing for some time till I'm pulled back to my body.

Other experience more than 10 years ago...
While I'm out of body I'm going my route around my house observing my surrounding. I found den full of vampires about kilometer from my house. There was depression in ground and in it there is something like building/bunker where vampires are living. I observe them moving around. I see them they are herding some people to that place. People which are not protesting or trying to run. They are looking like somnambulists. Then I see how they are being closed inside the structure, treated like animals, sucked off of energy... And I feel cold, very cold concentrated anger. I'm shining dark blue violet aura as I'm running down the slope and into that den. vampires saw me and start to run to me, trying to catch me. Big mistake. I'm catching first one and tier him into two before it crumbles into dust. Then second, third. They are fast but I'm many times faster, they are strong, but I'm any times stronger. After a 10-15 vampires killed they start to run away. It is too late for them. No vampire manages to run away, they are all dusted by my bare hands. I'm opening the cages, letting people out, before destroying that place. People are continuing to be somnambulic, zombie like... slowly walking away.
I visited that place a few times again but no vampire came back again.

Sorry to interrupt, Nomad, but your incredible last post to me invited some final notes:

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I have no new attitude. I've always been a cocky asshole since you got on DV. I was kind of a puss about six years ago, back when I first joined, and I copped an attitude way before you got here, bub.

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Yes, you've always been a cocky asshole, Nomad, but you were a cocky asshole who still listened to other people's opinions and didn't feel a need to respond only with insults and an attitude that you are absolutely right about everything you say, and anyone who dares take exception to your message is flat out wrong, and an idiot. That is new.

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I am telling people to try out this shit for themselves, don't take my word for it. Don't trust me. I am a stranger. Learn from your own experience. If you don't believe it, I really don't give a shit. Try it out for yourself to disprove it to yourself. I have nothing to prove to others. I only have shit to prove to myself.

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If this is true (and represents "old Nomad," BTW), then why be so defensive? Oh, and no one on this thread was asking you for proof of anything; I didn't even use the word or anything like it until I challenged you to prove it to me (which you, curiously, declined) in response to your inexplicable demand that I disprove what your assorted "laws:"

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You have no dream public journal. no point in trying to battle you to prove shit.

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Seriously? Why exactly do I need a public dream journal in order for you to contact me? That doesn't make sense at all. Is there something about listing a dream in a public journal that makes you able to contact me?

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Plus, there would be no point for any other reason. You would still antagonize me over DV every chance you get.

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No, I would not, and I am sorry you think that. I have no interest in antagonizing you or anyone else, ever, Nomad; such action is not worth my time (I don't like trolling); interesting though, that you think I might, even though I never so much as intimated I would.

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I'd really like to put you on my Ignore list, after your barely subtle ad hominem attacks but apparently you've become a mod, so the software won't let me. I actually had you on my ignore list for a couple years or so, because of your habit of cyberstalking me on this DV, with your subtle negative insults, arguing with me on everything I say, then backpedaling, and saying you agree. *yawn*

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I assume at this point that you are definitely thinking of someone else, Nomad, or else you are simply lying for effect. I sincerely hope it's the former.

I have never "cyberstalked" anyone, including you, and am amazed that you think I have (come to think of it, other than this thread I think I've only posted one response to a post of yours since you've been back; I'd hardly call that stalking). I have a life, Nomad, and don't need to fill it with such empty attempts at empowering myself... I also really barely care enough about you to write this post, much less spend time stalking you... you might want to notch back a bit on that ego there. Also, I'm pretty sure I have never, ever, even once, argued with everything you said, and then backpedaled and said I agree (indeed, I don't remember fully agreeing with you on anything, which BTW was something that I actually liked and made your posts all the more interesting). I really do not do that. I might disagree with points people make and then find that I really do agree, but there is no "everything," and certainly no backpedaling. Are you sure you're not thinking of someone else? Or do you throw all these insults and accusations out randomly, just to make the person you are insulting look worse?

For what it is worth, I was not making ad-hominem attacks at you, either subtly or not -- though I've noticed that you are perfectly willing to do so yourself, for instance in your entire post to me here and when you subtly called me an idiot above...not to mention the more subtle insult of drawing conclusions about me without really reading my posts; conclusions rife with insults and false accusations, it should be noted.

Not that I care either way, but there is no need to put me on your ignore list, Nomad; you have already proven to me that you are currently not worth my time, and, since I will never fall for your fantastic tale-weaving and law-creating (and you are no longer interested in hearing from people who dare question such things), you won't be seeing posts from me very much anymore. Again, I sincerely find that a shame.

Edit: Welp, alright, nevermind I guess

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"Pull focus. Do things slowly, before an attack, for example, charging a weapon for an attack will force the attacker to look at the weapon, making it more real to the person looking at it, thus giving it power."

DBZ is prefect for this

first time when I read this tutorial long time ago I didnt rly get it, so I didnt think of it at all after, but now that I read ur updated version all of my previous experiences prove these are all real. its way harder to disprove this imo lol

in my experience, there was no danger at all, if u only let it in ur mind then it can be 'dangerous'. worst case scenario i always went back to my 'body', aka i'd wake up. dream battle is super fun. fear is very interesting one out of all emotions. i once decided to 'face' the fear to test my bravery, then that night i met a sentinent being, a medusa girl but the hair was full of slimy tentacles instead of snakes. it was super scary but it was fun. basically i passed the test. its all meant to make you strong imo. it depends on how you perceive. ur belief creates reality. there is also plenty of love in other worlds :)

just needed the tips, i was gonna try dreamwar tonight lol

I guess zombie threads are all we have now.

I think the different kinds of dream entities discussed are largely real, but the interpretations of them are mostly metaphorical and imagined.

If someone attacks you in a dream, you can almost always simply withdraw, unless you like fighting.

I think that people generally don't have a lot of power to intrude into other people's minds without consent, and people who make a practice of violating that will generally create problems for themselves to keep themselves occupied. I think we're mostly our own worse enemies, notwithstanding that it is possible to injure other people.

Say what you want but I've noticed that many people naturally dream together a lot more than people are aware of. I notice people'sdreams sync up with mine and each other quite often. not many people notice.

I agree. One reason for that is you have the similar reactions to prior external triggers. But that doesn't even go halfway to accounting for it.

Say what you want but I've noticed that many people naturally dream together a lot more than people are aware of. I notice people'sdreams sync up with mine and each other quite often. not many people notice.