Those are good points but i think we should stick to the palace entrance. It doesn't have to be populated either. Also, who knows what aliens you might meet while your up there.:alien::chuckle:
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@ Spellbee , sorry will try too behave
@ Reality Shifter, good luck with your lucid journeys and no hard feelings re .
@ Durza, glad you could join the mission, will be fun too read about your adventures.
@ Lucid Bunnie, its awesome too read about your Dreams, you are strong person.
anyway i'm taking a small break from dv for about a week, so i will update my dj then, and if i get lucid i will ask dc's about your symbols, i doubt i am good enough too actually transport too Palace.
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Okay, seeya Oneironautics. Best of luck!
Bye oneiro, I hope you have a good break with plenty of awesome dreams~ Its good to know you'll still be able to participate when you can too.:dreaming:
So, tried for the second time to incubate the palace, but no luck again. My dream recall was slightly better this time, so I am hoping I will be able to remember more soon again so I can know for sure if I am doing it or not.
It's great that your recall is better Durza. I had difficulty too. im wondering if this will really benefit the group again. It takes time and patience. Perhaps with a well known place we could speed up our progress but I'm not entirely sure. :hrm: Now that we have more participants in the group, change might be necessary?
Thanks, yeah, I really thought the moon might be the best place, and other people have had success there too. But, the palace is ok too. Going to try two WILDs tonight, one 2.5 hours and another 4.5 hours tonight. I am very hopeful, because I have tried about three times before, and all three I fell asleep and lost concentration really quick, meaning that if I can just focus, it should be really easy. RN I am just using my alarm to wake me up and then I don't move but just try the WILD, so its hard to keep concentration, but if I can, its a piece of cake. What's your favorite method to gain lucidity?
Its good to know that you have your method all planned out Durza. : ) I hope you have success in your WILDs too. My favorite method is Dild. However, my Dilds tend to work with the right timing and with just enough belief/focus that its around the corner. My dream guides appearances also help. But lately I haven't been into it like I should because I've also been leaving it up to my Non lucid dreams. I think if I want to be any help, I have to start getting lucid often like I use to. Even with having to get up at 6am or 7am I might as well try. I was able to do it before so I'm definitely slacking now.:boggle:
Hmm...we could go with the palace but maybe we should try the moon once and see how it goes?
Thanks, I hope you have success in your DILDs as well. Personally, I don't like them at all because then I feel like I don't have control over my lucidity, and doubt it would work for me, though that could be why it wouldn't work :) but i prefer something like a wild where I can "make" myself become lucid. Does lucid dreaming get not "old" but does the coolness wear off ever? Or do people just get busy? Anyway, hope u get some lucid dreams! I'll be looking for you at the palace tonight...I hope
Yeah....you do need a certain amount of confidence. That's what I like about WILD too but when you think about it, there doesn't have to be much time difference btw starting a wild and for you to become lucid from a dild. Your eventually falling asleep for both but the difference is wild always has the head start. Not always a huge gap of a head start though. I say this because i've had dilds start in a short amount of time and when i wake up i find that not much time has passed even though it felt decently long.Some people say that lucid dreaming never gets boring for them. For me, I have my moments where I'm bored of it. Like how not everyday is an amazing day. Sometimes you just have those off days.
My WILDs are unreliable because I have trouble falling asleep so I default to relying on DILDs even when i do WBTB. The main disadvantage of it is that sometimes you don't remember tasks and goals well when having a DILD. Anyway, so far some of us had managed to go to the Palace. It would be more inviting for people if the location was more readily recognizable like the moon, but I'm not sure if we should change it up. I'll leave it to Dawn. XD
I definitely think it's a better idea to go with the moon, because it's very distinct. We've all seen it -- the same thing, in real life, and many times. And as someone above mentioned, if we see people there we know it's likely to be other dreamers because no people actually live there! So no potential interference from real-life people walking around the area while we're dreaming.
For the record, I think it's very unlikely that shared dreaming exists. However, I'm all for having fun and experimenting, so I think I'll join this group actually. I haven't been having lucid dreams very frequently recently, but I'll give it a go in some of my next few lucids. It sounds interesting going to the moon anyway (I haven't done much outer-space stuff at all), so a double benefit.
I also think, like Sageous brought up, that if shared dreaming exists, it likely will work at least sometimes even if our dreams are separated by time. This could either be because the dreams are linked by residual interconnected thought patterns, or more concretely, because someone merely dreams at the same time that someone else is thinking about the dream they had earlier that day.
In other words, I think if shared dreaming exists, it exists as just one manifestation of a general interconnectedness of the thoughts of humans, such that if one of us is merely remembering our dream, it could have the same effect of manifesting in someone else's dream at that moment.
Sad pad, no luck on the palace again. I tried my WILD tonight, and was very concentrated tho. However, I was just so tired, that I couldn't fall asleep while focusing, so I am going to try a CILD, (Counting Induced Lucid Dreaming) tonight and see how that goes.
I have also been having trouble getting to the palace recently. Actually any form of lucid dreaming or dream control seems to have been out of my reach for the past week or so. Frustrating. Maybe it is because it is finals week. Next week should be better.
Also, I love how this thread is getting so much attention. Really cool.
That's true. Sometimes your memory is messy but I honestly don't see that as a disadvantage. I say this because when your fully lucid how many times do you end up not remembering your task? For me it hasn't been a problem but there have been those moments where I forgot a name or some small info in the past. The times I mostly forget my tasks is when I'm semi lucid or when I'm distracted by something I like or feel is important. Than again it could be different for others.
Since everyone is all for the moon, let's give it a try. Better to change if it isn't working so well and see how that goes. Also, welcome to the group Venryx~ That's an interesting theory for how it would work . Lets get to it and see if we can piece it together more or uncover whether it is just dream meshing.
Durza, its okay. I didn't attempt to go to palace cause I was thinking about other things.I hope your CILD works. I will try tonight to get to the moon or palace. Whichever you prefer.
Jewl, that's understandable. I hope you do well on your finals. I haven't taken mine yet but Im optimistic I will pass. It would be nerve wrecking to not pass. :boggle::reading:
Yeah, I think I will try the moon, since i haven't had any luck with the palace. Thanks, i haven't tired the CILD but once before, and am interested to see how it will turn out. Hope u both do good on your finals!
Ok. The moon it is~ No problem and thanks~:)
K, Cool, also why does under your name it say long time lucid explorer while mine says member?
No problem :)
Is everyone going to go to the moon now?
Guys, if you like, I can move this thread to Deep Dreaming forum. It's a private place where like minded people share their ideas about how to do something, without having to battle people trying to convince them that it's not possible.
It's ok to have opposition to our ideas. But that can be done in a different forum and the topic should be clearly inviting discussion about something being possible/not possible to do. So realityshifter, if you wish to have such discussion, please open your own thread in Extended Discussion.