Are you still often surprised ?

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06-27-2007, 02:24 PM
kenietz

Are you still often surprised ?

So for several years now i have such a feeling that i become more difficult to be surprised. I dunno how exactly to explain it. But it is so. Somehow the knowing that i am dreaming and remembering my dream show me lots of stuff and then when they come in "real" life i am not surprised. I just accept it as natural. This is somehow nice and yet a bit disturbing. It is like loosing part of the fun which life propose. And the other effect is a feeling of detaching. I can sit in the bus and separate myself from me and watch the people as ants and realize i am one too. Just everyone is in a hurry. But why? And yet i know i am. All this is making me all in all feel like i live like schizophrenic. I have to live like the normal people and pretend and yet to be myself. Its a bit crazy.

What do you think about it people?
06-27-2007, 03:00 PM
G007

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Originally Posted by kenietz

So for several years now i have such a feeling that i become more difficult to be surprised. I dunno how exactly to explain it. But it is so. Somehow the knowing that i am dreaming and remembering my dream show me lots of stuff and then when they come in "real" life i am not surprised. I just accept it as natural. This is somehow nice and yet a bit disturbing. It is like loosing part of the fun which life propose. And the other effect is a feeling of detaching. I can sit in the bus and separate myself from me and watch the people as ants and realize i am one too. Just everyone is in a hurry. But why? And yet i know i am. All this is making me all in all feel like i live like schizophrenic. I have to live like the normal people and pretend and yet to be myself. Its a bit crazy.

What do you think about it people?

Thats cuz your as crazy as the dancing banana :banana: Nahh I'm sooo kidding. I know what you mean.
The only time I have felt like that has been when recently discovering LD. I felt like I had no one to talk to about it and kinda felt that people that didn't know about it where wasting away and not on my level kinda?

But I guess thats why you have to be careful and use LD for improving your RL. Use it as a tool to make your RL better! Don't use it as a tool to escape the anchors of real life you know? Because I guess thats when you will have those feelings of detatchment and feel all kinda weird and stuff. :) :p
06-27-2007, 03:14 PM
kenietz

Mmm yes you are right of course :) But i dont use it as escape. For me my dreams are like going to a journey. Only that i never know where i will go. Sometimes i get lessons about life and nature. Its cool. But the detachment nobody can escape. It is not that i want to escape really. I once had the chance to stay there but i decided to stay here. So i fully know what was my decision. I decided to enjoy my stay on Earth :) So i am trying. Eh i wont hide sometimes i regret that i came back but the i remember it was my decision. By this detachment i mean some kind of realizing the existence of the different realities and everyone of us has a separate one and yet not exactly. But you can observe it like you are not part of it. I dunno if this made it clearer but that it is life is not one sided. As for the crazy :banana: i guess you are right again :) with age i am becoming more like :banana::banana::banana:
06-27-2007, 03:31 PM
G007

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Originally Posted by kenietz

Mmm yes you are right of course :) But i dont use it as escape. For me my dreams are like going to a journey. Only that i never know where i will go. Sometimes i get lessons about life and nature. Its cool. But the detachment nobody can escape. It is not that i want to escape really. I once had the chance to stay there but i decided to stay here. So i fully know what was my decision. I decided to enjoy my stay on Earth :) So i am trying. Eh i wont hide sometimes i regret that i came back but the i remember it was my decision. By this detachment i mean some kind of realizing the existence of the different realities and everyone of us has a separate one and yet not exactly. But you can observe it like you are not part of it. I dunno if this made it clearer but that it is life is not one sided. As for the crazy :banana: i guess you are right again :) with age i am becoming more like :banana::banana::banana:

Really you had a chance to stay there? You have to PM me that story :)

I kinda get what your saying and I know it feels kinda weird. You can kind of step out whenever you want and observe. But then it leaves you wondering why is it that you are an ant when you know better? Whats right and whats wrong? Whats the right reality and the wrong one? What even is reality?
So many questions so little time.
06-27-2007, 03:55 PM
kenietz

Exactly no time we have. so we have to enjoy it i suppose. i look around and enjoy the beauty offered by the nature. the detachment gives you a way to see through. that there is no really right or wrong. its all decisions and responsibility i guess. it all looks quite simple the whole life and yet is unimaginable complicated. its all not only double-edged but multiple-edged.
As for reality all is real.

The best way to detach in the beginning i found is on the bus. Then you can observe the people and lots of them from the window as the bus is moving. While observing them i start to kind a feel them. I see them running for their problems and tasks. And then you realize you are the same cos you are in the bus going to work for example. So this is how i started.

Anyways in my dream long time ago i was having real fun with some beings on a place which was white. And the beings were white. Pure milky white but no real human shapes. I mean they had some shape but no face or details of the body. And i was extremely happy with these guys. In the morning i felt my body is giving me sign to wake up (like i know that my body wants to wake but this will take the energy needed to stay there - i hate this when i dream really nice dreams) so i felt shitty and then this guys told me i can stay there. But then i felt in my guts (or may be the area where they are) that if i say yes i will stay but i wont wake up that ill die in my bed. so i spent some moments on thinking and then decided to wake up. This decision was dictated by another dream of mine where i died and met "GOD" and "Death". But that is another story :)
06-27-2007, 04:09 PM
G007

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Originally Posted by kenietz

Exactly no time we have. so we have to enjoy it i suppose. i look around and enjoy the beauty offered by the nature. the detachment gives you a way to see through. that there is no really right or wrong. its all decisions and responsibility i guess. it all looks quite simple the whole life and yet is unimaginable complicated. its all not only double-edged but multiple-edged.
As for reality all is real.

Decisions and responsibilities and learning and perspective. It's all about perspective. And yes it does look soooo simple but in reality so very multiple-edged. Kinda like my fav song lyrics. Upon reading them you think they are saying one thing..very simple..and in reality they are the most complicated and intriguing lyrics ever. I absoltely love it.

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The best way to detach in the beginning i found is on the bus. Then you can observe the people and lots of them from the window as the bus is moving. While observing them i start to kind a feel them. I see them running for their problems and tasks. And then you realize you are the same cos you are in the bus going to work for example. So this is how i started.

Anyways in my dream long time ago i was having real fun with some beings on a place which was white. And the beings were white. Pure milky white but no real human shapes. I mean they had some shape but no face or details of the body. And i was extremely happy with these guys. In the morning i felt my body is giving me sign to wake up (like i know that my body wants to wake but this will take the energy needed to stay there - i hate this when i dream really nice dreams) so i felt shitty and then this guys told me i can stay there. But then i felt in my guts (or may be the area where they are) that if i say yes i will stay but i wont wake up that ill die in my bed. so i spent some moments on thinking and then decided to wake up. This decision was dictated by another dream of mine where i died and met "GOD" and "Death". But that is another story

Very cool. I have yet to visit another planet or met other non human beings. I respect that you woke up tho.

Sit on a bus or just sit in a park bench. I used to just sit on a park bench and just observe everyone. I used to pin point people and wonder about their lives..and how many people they are linked to, and how many people those people arelinked to, and how they all have thoughts, and purposes, and how different and unique we all really are and My mind kinda goes into overload. lol :banana: