Shadow Beings

Shadow Beings



There is an interesting phenomena going on of late,
and that is the phenomenon of shadow beings aka <the hat man>
<shadow beings> <shadow people>, they resemble humanoid
in shape, but look like they are made of shadow, people
have actually experienced them while fully awake, and in lucid dreams, that's why i am bringing it up here. there are other treads here about people called night stalkers and dream walkers, to be perfectly honest i never heard of night stalkers before, I'm just wondering could the shadow beings i been researching be the one and the same, i believe there are different rank like positions with the shadow beings, i have experienced them naked like- just a man shadow if you catch my drift, and shadows wearing red robes, who tried to download me with dark knowledge.
i feel so sorry for people who experience them in reality, and in some ways I'm very glade i know of there existence so i can warn other people about them.
about this whole night stalker dream walker thing.
if you believe in shared dreaming you shouldn't knock the idea of bad people/lucid dreamers who are skilled, getting there rocks off scaring another dreamer to death in there dreams, i know i would if they asked for it:)
but again, i fall back to the shadow people, they are skilled but merciless,
but when i do a google search on night stalkers, i dont get much at all but rpg stuff, i wish they would stop stealing, truth, and makeing it half truth.
people may call them stalkers, cause they are huntings at heart, shadow beings hunt to you know, so ill like anyone who experienced this night stalker thing to come forward and tell us for 100% if night stalkers are shadow beings.... ok you should know., but again shadow beings and night stalkers could just be two different things, but truly think about this, if there is a universal dream world out there, and skilled bad lucid dreamers, knew the tricks of entering ones dream, whats to stop them? but to be honest i dont believe in the whole faction thing, i will believe in it 100% if people come forward and tell me if night stalkers are in fact shadow beings,
but little info on it so far, there is more info on dream walkers, who i been studying for awhile:) and who i think exist. find out about the dream walkers in my next post.

Could you perhaps give a description of these "shadow beings" you're talking about?
You just seem to have explained your opinion of them and all such but I don't see a description as to where/when/how you've experienced them or where/when/how they are to be experienced in general. What they're like, as in, what traits they possess. And so on.

they vary from shadow being to shadow being some are stronger then others,
they can often look very misty. like a cloud of darkness, they are incredibly good at hiding them self's
they can be incredibly fast, they have a distinct energy, i just feel them if they are around, i have never experienced them while awake <well not that i know of>
i only experienced them while lucid, here is my first experience
I'm in a dark room with no door or windows, i think great what to do now, i look around and see a mirror i walk through the mirror, normally when i walk through a mirror i normally just appear in a other room on the other side, but this time, i found my self in what can best be described as a wormhole pipe-line wave sort of thing, but i didn't like the feeling, i felt like i was running out of air, so i walked back out the mirror......
when i got back out, my senses were on guard something was near but i couldn't see it, i was turning round an round to try and stop it, but then i was suddenly bear hugged from behind, and i could feel this shadow beings breath near my ear, i would have to say it was male, for i could feel its underarm hair, but its arms were black, like darkness, and it whispered the most nasty things into my ear, they don't bother me anymore though for i know there weakness, and plus if they do decide to mess with me, they are the perfect dream sign for my self. what else would you people like to know? ask and ye shall receive.

and this cant be blamed on sleep paralysis

Well, there are many cases of hypnagogic hallucinations where people see shadowy creatures and items while falling asleep or waking up. Mostly in half-darkness. When the eyes play tricks. And not just the eyes.

I've had shadow being hallucinations plenty of times. Someone standing in a doorway, my cat sitting on my legs in bed while it was in another room (I saw the cat's shadowy image, felt the weight on my legs), bugs in my bed (the most frustrating, heh) and so on.

But since your experience was during a dream...
Well, what makes you certain it wasn't "just a dream"?

that is still blame on sleep paralysis, but i only encounter them while fully lucid, i know when im in sleep paralysis and when im not
and now this gets interesting, shadow beings can kinda resemable the so called sucubis and incubis, i even experienced the sucubis without paralysis, i believe thats when im useing my astral arms to have a feel.
oh wait a min, yah i guess i was in sp when i was able to move, but enjoying it with my astral self
im tending to believe that the sucubis and shadow beings may be the one and the same.

when people are litelly chazed down the street? raped even?

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Originally Posted by acillis

There is an interesting phenomena going on of late,

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Of late? There have been threads about shadow being on this board as long as it's existed.

I've seen a few standing in my room after I've woken up. Wasn't a false awakening. I just dismissed it as Hypnopompic Imagery. Like Hypnogogic Imagery before you fall asleep, hypnopompic is after you wake up.

I think I know what you're talking about. I've seen several before, in normal dreams only though, no lucid ones. For me, they're usually about my height, and shape and scare the life out of me.

I'm at the opposite end of the strange being spectrum.

In lucid dreams I found that I was being stalked but light beings that weren't always human shaped. They came as orbs or strands of light, odd shapes and even appeared as a sun that followed me.

If you are in the same dream area as a powerful otherworldly being, and it wants to be seen, or you steal a glimpse (in the shadows, moving just outside your focus...) your mind must create a image of what it is experiancing for you to see. At first you do not even really focus in on what it is, much less know how you should see it in your minds eye. I imagine I could sound confusing here.
You get near a real energy based being and it will seem shadowy and hard to make out, or change and blur. It could be a good being, or bad, maybe just a board critter sniffing at you.
You can increase your skill at feeling them rather than seeing. Then your mind has something to go off of. They seem good and strong and light,,, so your minds eyes sees them as --angel--stalion--eagle--whatever. You feel their longing to hurt you and feel there hunger and your minds eye shows you staving dog--spider--pervert--whatever.
MY BIG POINT They all look like shadows or wisps at first. Maybe they are friendly.

This guy caught a shadow man on security camera!
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/pa...ml?theme=light

That's pretty creepy. I've experienced a similar experience when I went outside during an AP. It seemed to be in the corner of my eye and I got a really freaky vibe from it. So when I came out of the AP, I went outside and sat in my car near the spot where I felt the freaky presence and saw the shadow.

I was indeed able to get a picture of it. I posted it here. Let me know what you think, It was a pretty genuinly freaky experience.

By the way acillis = Mr Faded Glory?

LOL.

I've had a shadowy man in my dreams since as long as I can remember. I think it's me though, like my subconscious or something.... It's grown like I've grown, we are the same height and we even have the same hair. But he either has a calming nature about him or a malevolent one and sometimes his eyes are black, but sometimes they are white, and all he is is a dark figure of me, like an outline... no distinguished features, sometimes he's a streak of black and sometimes hes foggy, All I know is that he always walks beside me, and if my dreams are like a movie, and im not present in them, he ends up being seen by me anyways. I wonder if this is a shadow man? like a personal one...

I saw a shadow dude

I was lying in bed for about an hour trying to sleep.
I was staying at a friends house it was after a festival.
I was in bed and my mate was on the floor near the wall. I was looking near the door of the room because It was dark and seemed strange. then I noticed from the shadows a shadow was moving towards me along the wall.. it moved slowly in the shape of a tall limbless person. It came closer along the wall near my mate on the floor.. I was so flipping scared .. I sensed something horrible. I kinda let out a scream dived up and turned the light on because It seemed to want to get my mate. I had this vision of it killing my mate. My mate got up.. kinda half asleep then fell back down again.

My mate NEVER dreams :( which is lame. After this he started making little screaming noises and saying they're getting me .. they're choking me and banging my head. Random stuff like that. lol

Also another friend said he saw something like a shadow person above his bed going around him like a dome was protecting him and not letting it in.

Could be eyes playing tricks.. but it seemed pretty real. I was awake. Thats my story :D

Apparently accoriding to Don Juan(Indian) Shadow Beings are drawn to our awarness. Such as when you become lucid you send out energy beams from your body, and these shadow beings are drawn to our energy.

There not here to hurt but to give knowledge and power, for those who seek.
The indians used to exchange power from there body to the shadow beings in exchange for more of there energy on different wave lenghts.
There is more infrormation in "The art of Dreaming" -Carlos Castaneda

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Originally Posted by Sarin

Apparently accoriding to Don Juan(Indian) Shadow Beings are drawn to our awarness. Such as when you become lucid you send out energy beams from your body, and these shadow beings are drawn to our energy.

There not here to hurt but to give knowledge and power, for those who seek.
The indians used to exchange power from there body to the shadow beings in exchange for more of there energy on different wave lenghts.
There is more infrormation in "The art of Dreaming" -Carlos Castaneda

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Are you sure about that? I don't remember any mention of shadow being in those books. Those were inorganic beings.

i see shadow beings every few months. most from the corner of my eyes, some dead center. They just pass by. I dont feel any malice from them, though. My first encounter with one, however, i was astrally attcked by one who kept coming back over and over. that's the only negative experience with a shadow being, and it was the only time i was asleep or nearly so.
I think theyre non-incarnate individuals. Sometimes the veil between worlds thins for a moment, offering a glimpse. Sometimes they draw energy to manifest within this plane. As with any person, some are good, some are evil. I dont give them much thought, otherwise.

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Originally Posted by The Cusp

Are you sure about that? I don't remember any mention of shadow being in those books. Those were inorganic beings.

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The Indians used to call them shadow being's because thats all they seen of them(there shadow) but Don Juan and the sorcerer's knew them of there energy and could actully see them.
I do believe that inorganic beings slip through the cracks of there world and our's. For them like Don Juan say's we are magnet's drawing there energy in like bait of a fishing rod catching fish.

i think you need to go back and read those books again sarin. sorry, but what you said doesnt sound very accuarte excpet about the inorganics being attracted to our energy. the only other shadow beings were the flyers or mud shadows, another type of inorganic being and believ me they arent here to give power or knowledge to those who seek.

You guys musnt be so closed minded.(Before i new what SP was) A woke up in SP one time. It freaked me out i started hearing noising(Nails on chalkboard). And then i started hearing thumps come closer. Until it was right next to me. As i looked at the cornor of my eye i saw a sillioute of a guy in a cloak He stood up and i felt like was being shaked rapidly(Vibrations) Scared the shit out of me. I struggled i was having a panic attack and got out of SP, and he vanished. I couldnt sleep the whole night. It was worst experience i ever felt at the time. But this was when i started getting into lucid dreaming. And i didnt know What all this stuff was. (SP, HI, HS, etc.)

There are many different Inorganic and organic beings, such as the watery inorganic being and the fire being's, I am not actually saying this is what you saw, just that it is a possibility, like it could be 1 in a million of things from the universe that were actually there.

I've seen them both awake and while APing. The one I saw while Aping followed me back to my bed and tried to keep me from waking up. It actually spoke, and had a whipsery, raspy voice. The ones I saw while awake were wandering around my grandma's house, and they were pretty angry.

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Originally Posted by Kanano

I think I know what you're talking about. I've seen several before, in normal dreams only though, no lucid ones. For me, they're usually about my height, and shape and scare the life out of me.

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These threads are old as hell but no matter. It's been about 15 years since my last encounter with a shadow being and that's just fine by me. It was the most terrifying experience of my life and as far as i'm concerned there is nothing good about them. I was lucid and it appeared beside my bed. The silhouette resembled a friend of mine. Instantly I knew it was not my friend and a split second later it was standing on my bed taking the form of a predator like the movies. It even made the sounds. I tried to get up and kill it with my bare hands but I was paralyzed. I've also had encounters with inorganic beings and would take the hot, shocking, firey feel of those any day. I thought these shadow beings were just another form or inorganics but i'm not so sure anymore. Glad to know others are experiencing similar things...

I've seen them too after staying up for a few days without sleep. The ones I saw were fairly short and most of them didn't move too much, just fading away rather than running or something. None ever attacked me though...

If anything, I think (and sort of hope) what I saw can be explained by an over-active pattern recognition and some of that HI stuff thrown in.

Oh and dream disciple, did it attack you while you were awake? Also, what's an inorganic?

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Originally Posted by seriouscentaur

Also, what's an inorganic?

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it's a being without any real organs. this includes those who have stuffed themselves full of organs in order to blend into our society. there is always something funny about them tho.

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Originally Posted by seriouscentaur

I've seen them too after staying up for a few days without sleep. The ones I saw were fairly short and most of them didn't move too much, just fading away rather than running or something. None ever attacked me though...

If anything, I think (and sort of hope) what I saw can be explained by an over-active pattern recognition and some of that HI stuff thrown in.

Oh and dream disciple, did it attack you while you were awake? Also, what's an inorganic?

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I was not awake, but being lucid is dam close. There was no physical attack so to speak but it's presence was strictly evil. To understand an inorganic being you should google it and I recommend reading Carlos Castaneda The Art of Dreaming. On another note what is HI? I'm assuming a drug of some sort if it kept you awake for 2 days??

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Originally Posted by dream disciple

I was not awake, but being lucid is dam close. There was no physical attack so to speak but it's presence was strictly evil. To understand an inorganic being you should google it and I recommend reading Carlos Castaneda The Art of Dreaming. On another note what is HI? I'm assuming a drug of some sort if it kept you awake for 2 days??

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HI is hypnogogic imagery unless he means something else :P

Yeah that's what I meant. That's a pretty common abbreviation, right?

But wait if you were dreaming, doesn't that make it a different sort of thing?

And lol sleepingdog. :3

No chance that shadow beings are related the the "HAG" phenomenon?

i.e. an obvious hallucination generated for reasons commonly understood.

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Originally Posted by moonshine

No chance that shadow beings are related the the "HAG" phenomenon?

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I've encountered a shadow being in one of the first lucids (it was not SP). At that time I've related it to reading too much Castaneda, but it really striked me when I started to dig up forums that this seems like world-wide phenomenon among dreamers which do not depend on what they have read before.

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and this cant be blamed on sleep paralysis

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Why not? These kind of statements are just an excuse to ignore rationality UNLESS you proov why it can't be blamed on SP.

That's like me saying, wow- the economy is really screwed up as of late. Why do you think that is? Oh, and it can't be blamed on the mortage market.

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Originally Posted by spockman

Why not? These kind of statements are just an excuse to ignore rationality UNLESS you proov why it can't be blamed on SP.

That's like me saying, wow- the economy is really screwed up as of late. Why do you think that is? Oh, and it can't be blamed on the mortage market.

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If you look at all the accounts of Old Hag attacks, no two are exactly the same, either in physical appearance or in the way they act.

Shadow people on the other hand, are homogeneous right across the board.

But at least that's an explanation. Not an arbitrary shutting down of a possibility.

I had a weird experience a few days ago. I was sitting on my couch in my basement, and out of the corner of my eye i saw this really skinny, completely orange guy dash behind this this pillar thing that holds up the ceiling. it scared me so bad.

I have experienced one of those shadow beings before... It was long time ago and i felt (i still do) that someone is watching me, like always i'm turning my head to see if there is something and there was! It was completly dark but was shaped like a man after 2 seconds it disappeared i was extremely scared but i have never seen them since.

I was fully awake (It was not a dream or SP)

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Originally Posted by The Cusp

If you look at all the accounts of Old Hag attacks, no two are exactly the same, either in physical appearance or in the way they act.

Shadow people on the other hand, are homogeneous right across the board.

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No chance of a vague amorphous figure being the most basic form of hypnagogic mental creation then?

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Originally Posted by moonshine

No chance of a vague amorphous figure being the most basic form of hypnagogic mental creation then?

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Not when people see them in the middle of the day as they are walking down the street.

Old hag must be the cause, in each of the cases that I've undergone sleep paralysis I've seen those shadow figures.
In most of my extremely low-level lucid dreams; I watch them sneak up to my bedside and stand around me. Although sometimes they come as animals instead, mainly wolves.
I think silhouettes of figures must be the mind's default for any living being, which is probably why the case is so popular.

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Originally Posted by The Cusp

Not when people see them in the middle of the day as they are walking down the street.

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And this has happened has it?

Never happened to me, but there are plenty of accounts of it.

I'm reasonably sure that hypnagogic hallucinations and the hallucinations experienced by schizophrenics are one and the same. The clinical list of symptoms for either are interchangeable. If shadow people are linked to HH, perhaps the people who see them during the day are experiencing schizophrenia?

The thing is I have some degree of control over my HH. When you wake up to see one of those things in your room, you become very skeptical. You don't want that fucking thing to be real.

Whenever I saw them, I tried a lot of stuff to try and see if they were really a product of my mind. Trying to influence them, change them, even a minor flicker of mutation. Even tried to tackle them a couple of times, but nothing ever worked. I'm just saying it freaks me out that I couldn't relate it anything I knew about dreaming or HH.

So the general consensus is that they're HI (or HH) and not actual, externally existing entities? Sort of unexciting if you ask me.

Have there been any reported cases of multiple people seeing the same shadow figures?

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Originally Posted by seriouscentaur

Sort of unexciting if you ask me.

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So is everything that's proven to be NOT MAGIC.

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Originally Posted by seriouscentaur

Have there been any reported cases of multiple people seeing the same shadow figures?

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Of course, coincidences happen.
Put two babbling drug-induced looneys in a room and eventually they'll wind up seeing the same thing at least once.

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So is everything that's proven to be NOT MAGIC.

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Ha then maybe if less people with something to prove decided to disprove all the interesting things, there'd be fewer cynics and more fun.

I guess you could put it that way.
But the only way to achieve that result would be mass genocide of skeptics.
This website would prosper however.

My own shadow is probably what I spend the most time looking at, when I walk, when I stand. I'm always outside. I would assume that the first/2nd thing people look at in another being would be it's outline/ it's shape. The logical, not skitzo, explanation might be that a silhouette or a shadow would appear. Out of all hallucinations, a darkened shape seems the most simple.

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Originally Posted by sleepingdog

it's a being without any real organs. this includes those who have stuffed themselves full of organs in order to blend into our society. there is always something funny about them tho.

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More organs means more human!

i have two stories of shadow being experiences one was from me one was from my brother and i have never heard of shadow beings till i came here mine happened during sleep paralysis right after a nightmare i was laying on my stomach(wich i never do) and barely managed to turn my head around and see a shadow being holding me down and my brothers happened in rehab he said in his drean he rolled over in his bed and there was a red robed figure with a hood that he couldnt see into looming over his bed and he immediately woke up and was too scared to roll over because he could feel the figure still there

Ehhh just tell me these things doesn't exist :eek: i really don't feel like go sleeping now :(.

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Originally Posted by njmbb8

i have two stories of shadow being experiences one was from me one was from my brother and i have never heard of shadow beings till i came here mine happened during sleep paralysis right after a nightmare i was laying on my stomach(wich i never do) and barely managed to turn my head around and see a shadow being holding me down and my brothers happened in rehab he said in his drean he rolled over in his bed and there was a red robed figure with a hood that he couldnt see into looming over his bed and he immediately woke up and was too scared to roll over because he could feel the figure still there

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that is quite interesting indeed, most shadow beings i have ever seen, are dressed in a dark cloaks trench coat things... but i have only ever seen one wearing a red cloak once, i think/feel they are different somehow, how? i don't know...

its quite possible shadow beings and the old hag are the one and the same, but couldn't shadow people and shadow beings be the same thing also? who says that shadow people are limited to just this reality? <hello they are a shadow!!!> lol
who says shadow people cant travel to the dimensions of our dreaming minds to do whatever they do!... there's so many unanswered questions......
i don't claim to know all the answers, i just believe they exist is all because they made them selves known to me, and once you *know* there isnt no turning back.
has anyone ever had a Incubus and Succubus experience? if i am correct this is different to the so called old hag syndrome right?

shadowpeople.org

i found this on an old post about shadow people. personally some of those stories scare the crap out of me. especially Mr. Grim.

i just thought id share it with everyone on here cause a lot of people still dont know about these guys, ive never seen one. some seem ok, l others seem like THEYRE OUT TO GET YOU!!! sorry.. had an axl rose moment. haha

Do you watch ghost hunters? In one episode they see catch a shawdow person on camera. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQRXGUiAWTI, Ive been to the place were they saw that its a pretty cool place. Its called Eastern state.

I've encountered a few, most notably in this experience:

When I dream and I feel threatened, i use my "powers", in my dreams i give myself the right to summon any power I need to defend myself. I was sleeping on my side, the shadow being was sitting on my hip stroking my hair, like it was admiring me. At first I thought:"I'm dreaming, my grand-ma is visiting me" (it happens once in a while)

I wouldn't move my body, only my eyes, so I couldn't see all of it, but i realised it wasn't my grandma, but an unknown male presence. Then I got scared, and I tried to make him flee with my powers ( i tried to summon fire, i thought i was lucid dreaming), but I had a really had time moving my body like i didn't have enough "dream juice" to do what I want with the dream

Then i noticed that my body what half in etheric form, the red, orange and yellow strings my astral body is made of was seeping through my skin...

and he said that I wasn't dreaming and thats why my powers wouldn't work

he fled by himself, then my room got brighter and I was fully awake.:shock:

one two freddys coming for you.

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Ehhh just tell me these things doesn't exist :eek: i really don't feel like go sleeping now :(.

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They don't exist.
Seriously.

Moonshine, you're not a skeptic, you're a preconceptualist.

http://imgsrv.gocomics.com/dim/?fh=3...fc0d3829932599

A real scientist or skeptic wouldn't believe this either though.

I on the other hand know shadow people exist, they're actually soft and warm. I wear them during the day and hang them in my room on the door knob or on a chair when I get home. Often they scare me as I wake up in the morning, but they don't really mean to so I don't get mad at them.

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Originally Posted by Scatterbrain

A real scientist or skeptic wouldn't believe this either though.

I on the other hand know shadow people exist, they're actually soft and warm. I wear them during the day and hang them in my room on the door knob or on a chair when I get home. Often they scare me as I wake up in the morning, but they don't really mean to so I don't get mad at them.

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Now that's just plain cheeky.
I like it.

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Originally Posted by moonshine

They don't exist.
Seriously.

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how bout stop trollin, this thread is for people that believe

This would seem like a pretty good explanation to me.

Great, now I think I see something in the corner of my eye all the time.

After reading this I dreamed of a shadow being last night. Mine was something that I normally wouldn't perceive as a shadow, because normally I wouldn't try to see it, I would feel it and develop a story from what I feel. This agrees with what someone else says below. The appearance of the shadow probably doesn't show much about the nature of the thing. Presumably a person could see more than a shadow if their active vision was more developed, but it seems to me that it would take an awful lot of development to see very much that way.

I had a shadow man on my bedroom wall EVERY NIGHT for a period when I was young. Nobody else ever saw him. It was right away after going to bed, not right before drifting off to sleep, not right after waking up, but wide awake. It was just his profile. He worse a hat and perhaps had a trench-coat on with the collar flipped up. He never moved. He never said a word. He just watched. I was really scared of him at first. My mom would come in and move my furniture and nicknacks but he never left. She would turn off my lights and check my walls and say SEE? NOTHING! But once she closed my door and left BAM there he was.

My mom had this lump develop on her forehead and she saw this shadowy figure following her around the house. She would just catch a glimpse of it and when she'd try to confront it or look directly at it, it would vanish. She felt like it was negative, like a "dark cloud" or something. One day she sensed it and said, "You're not gonna get me! Get out of here!" And that scared the shit out of her. Why'd she say that? What did it mean? This was all while FULLY AWAKE, walking, cooking, using the restroom, etc. So anyhow... she thought on it and then decided to go to the dr again regarding the lump. They just kept dismissing it as a cist. She found out she had non-hodgkin's lymphoma (a form of cancer)! She began chemotherapy and radiation and the lump began to shrink. The shadowy figure stopped coming around. My mom has now been cancer-free for 4 years. She still thinks it was some type of reaper waiting for her to cross over.... but who knows?

Yes, or some kind of warning fate.

When I was a child I had a terrifying recurring dream of a shape moving across my ceiling. With retrospect had the sound and appearance of an F-117, but light instead of dark, since the ceiling was dark. When I had these 'dreams' it was like I was wide awake, in a state akin to what a person would astrally project from. I eventually trained myself not to react emotionally to the dream, and that caused them to stop happening. The dream did prove to be related to developments later in my life though, things that I have not been able to avoid but have to fight against, as if they spring from a part of myself. So learning to detach emotionally might have been a step, but it wasn't the full solution.

I don't make a distinction between the 'daemon' that brought me the nightmare, and the daemon that inspires beautiful insights or causes other events in my life. Its like its just got a job to do. I 'saw' it once, it was like an orb of light moving around and touching my brain. When I say saw I don't mean that I was looking outwards, I was dreaming and I was just sort of aware, not with the usual field of vision.