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haha! this sounds really geeky but does anyone think that maybe the concept of 'the matrix' is derived from the concept of lucid dreaming? - the idea that you can control and change what is happening and make anything happen only if you realise your potential? - by having a lucid dream are you actually realising your potential and therefore unleashing your capabilities to let the mental take over the physical? or am i babbling?!!!!! hmmmm any thoughts?
This has been discussed about 2-3 millions times on DV. Somebody claimed that the wachowski brothers are lucid dreamers, which would explain where they got their idea from. The matrix and lucid dreaming are strikingly similar.
THe brothers stated thier interest in alternate realities. I think it has t do with dreaming and lots of other things.
Not - another - matrix - thread *twitch*
Yeah i was thinking about that when i was watching matrix reloaded. There's a lot in common between the two and i think it is possible for the idea of the matrix to come from lucid dreaming.
yeah, the reason why the last 2 sucked though was only because they didn't want to make it too complicated for the viewers since most film watchers are idiots these days.
Sorry, the worlds stupidity will doom us all. :o
I think the movie is more about the sterile modes of control than simply the 'dream' state. It shows the method of society, where the masses are used for nothing more than to feed the governing forces.
I got this idea from the "downloading information" part. I recently had a dream where I was using martial arts to overcome a foe. The next day I felt energized and as if I learned a new fighting style in my sleep... yes, this sounds very akward, but I was so much more aware of things around me the next day, and to this day.
I bet I could kick someones ass now...
Has anyone else experienced this?
It pisses me off when people say "Hey, Lucid Dreaming is a lot like the matrix!" *Patronising Look*
In my head there's just a little Aphius clenching his fists in anger. :mad:
It's much better when people say "Hey, thats like LDing!"
I'd sure like to. :PQuote:
Originally posted by invader_tech
I got this idea from the \"downloading information\" part. I recently had a dream where I was using martial arts to overcome a foe. The next day I felt energized and as if I learned a new fighting style in my sleep... yes, this sounds very akward, but I was so much more aware of things around me the next day, and to this day.
I bet I could kick someones ass now...
Has anyone else experienced this?
I think telekinesis and all the rest are kinda like the matrix concept. You can chage matter with your mind.
yeah, Dreaming isnt like being in the matrix at all really, at least i wouldn't think so. The only thing that DOES relate to it is that you can learn knew things in that different world.
You all know what i'm talkin about
yeah, the matrix is like LDing but LDing is not like the matrix. this is because LDing has more to it because its real
Actually it's because LDing has been around longer than The Matrix ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Andromeda
yeah, the matrix is like LDing but LDing is not like the matrix. this is because LDing has more to it because its real
edit: Er, you're right :-P
No, its because in an LD, you can will yourself to any place you want to go. Only the Smiths could that in the matrix, hahaha :upsidedown: In an LD, you could make the world blow up by thinking it! our minds work in all sorts of different ways
Yeah, that was why I edited the post right after.
Forgot about that side of it. :-P
I watched a documentary where it explained that the matrix movie was derived from ideas long before the brothers produced the matrix series. Therefore the origin goes further back.
Clearly. The true origin is not from today's society - I'm sure it's from philosophy collected throughout history.
Part of the genius of the Wachowski brothers is that they were able to write films that on the surface were action-packed and told a complete story for the "modern" watcher. But also was filled with tons of philosophy and another story if the viewer chose to look deeper than the surface.Quote:
Originally posted by Khronos
the reason why the last 2 sucked though was only because they didn't want to make it too complicated for the viewers since most film watchers are idiots these days.