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Like the title says :banana:
If you mean talking to someone else about a dream you had and sharing the details, then yes.
If you mean actually being in the same dream as someone else, then no.
I believe sharing dreams is possibe, though some believe that it's impossible.
I take a skeptical stance on this...there are some good recorded cases, but I'm still not entirely convinced. Guess I'm just going to have to try and see for myself. ^_^
I think it's narrow-minded to insist that this type of thing never occurs (being in someone else's dream). A good place to study would be twins I'd imagine.
As far as sharing strong similarities in dreams happening within a short time of each other, I believe that is far more common.
I imagine it's never like the movie Dreamscape, but two people working in tandem could have some results of unity to their dreams. Why not? I hope more advanced dreamworkers here have some personal examples....
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Izabael
*bites tongue*
Must not bring debate into thread. Must not post video...
I shall just say this: demanding evidence is not being close-minded. I just happen to be seeing a lack of very SOLID evidence, I guess. Thus far, all of the first-hand experiments seem to involve communication between the parties, which *may* be able to corrupt the results. What needs to happen is that there needs to be experiments run under laboratory settings with contact between the two parties that shall attempt to share dreams limited, monitored, and heavily regulated. If results can be produced relatively consistently between multiple parties of subjects, then shared dreaming would definitely hold water. As is, though, I'm just...skeptical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it is impossible, I'm just...skeptical.
I don't know how people would know that they were sharing a dream with someone, and that that someone wasn't just a DC. Not only that, but you would have to both be asleep and lucid at the same time... seems improbable, just with that criteria. I can't say it doesn't exist, but I'm not going to believe in it unless I experience it.
well i guess I was about to find out of i was dealing with a dc or not. ofcourse in order to find out the other guy had to remember AND be lucid and all but anyways i tried t
esting for a DC/ real person in this dream i had.
You can read about it in this section, the post is called "Scariest experience ever"
Fact is i won't really believe it either except for if I ever experience it or see real evidence.
Yeah, again unproven. On the other hand I believe in the possibility of... well, anything. I knew a pagan lady who had huge respect in the pagan community (she was like the highest rank.) She told me shes had many shared dreaming experiences and shes not one to lie, trust me. So WHO KNOWS!!! I personally cannot fully believe it until I experience it for myself!
Look, scientifically, no it's just not possible. I don't mean to be close minded but I would align this with paranormal activity. Then again, if you believe in that I just don't know what to tell you. If saw some strong proven research on the contrary I could be swayed but it would have to be real research and be big news. I assure you if stuff like that was possible it would be highly publicized.
Its possible if you believe it is. Best to figure it out for yourself, try to leave the doubts aside until you really give it an honest try. A few people here are involved with shared dreaming, check it out here: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=84188. I haven't been lucid in a while but for my next good one I'm gonna try to join them.Quote:
Originally Posted by LostKiddo
Its just simple combination of coincidence and placebo effect. People want to dream about someone, so they do. Then when they talk about it, there brain tricks them into matching things together. People simply believe what they want to believe. Labs conduct scientific studies for this exact reason.
Again, if this was real it would be recognized. And I don't mean a side note in a medical journal either, I mean full blown media storm. Labs would be diving to publish results. The implications would be huge!
If you don't believe in tarrot cards, ESP, or magic I wouldn't give this any more credibility.
If it is possible, this is the first time in human history we will be able to prove it. Let's start by assuming dream time is linear and corresponds to waking time. In order to prove that shared dreaming is possible, 2 or more dreamers have to be lucid together and recall a specific set of instructions to confirm their encounter in real life. Email would be the most logical choice as a means of confirmation as it is simple to remember and has global reach. I predict the first break through will come between 2 people in different parts of the world that confirm their encounter through an email message from one to the other the next day. While it will only be proven to those involved, the accomplishment should be enough to initiate a serious set of experiments from experts in the field. If I ever get one of these emails from someone out there, Dr. LaBerge is going to have to add me to his pay roll.
There is no good way of measuring the phenomenon objectively, and on top
of that it is difficult for two people to coordinate dreams in a way that would
allow them to share during the same time. Furthermore, dream sharing would
have to rely on a means of communication between brains that isn't
currently recognized in current scientific understanding, ergo the dream
sharing effect isn't given much attention.
Is it possible? Maybe. That's the best answer I can give.
My own experiences with dream sharing attempts have been curious. No
successes, but not entire failures, either. Try it yourself. Also, run a search
for other discussion on the site. It's been discussed far and wide.
One of the peaks of human arrogance is claiming to know things you simply have no way of knowing.
One thing that is for sure is that science can't answer everything at its current stage. So when we say something is likely or unlikely according to science, it really is only according to science. It's progressive.
To say that something is 100% impossible is not truth when the truth is that you don't know it is impossible, even if according to your current understanding it would be unlikely. It's not a bad way to think, it stops us from seeing into things where there is nothing to see into, but may also cause us to miss things too.
The thing about it too is that many scientists don't want to touch upon investigating this stuff for fear of ridicule and of losing their credibility.
That was strong :D Thanks !
to believe in such a thing would require belief in some other form of science which is completely illogical in my eyes. Therefore if you ask me, dont get too attached to the idea.
Look, a new video. :D Look, science is centered around skepticism. It looks at objectively measuring and testing variables to improve human knowledge. Of course, if you want to take the stance that it is completely impossible to say that something is 100% impossible (a contradiction, I may add), then I can claim that there is a flying spaghetti monster or swimming brownie-muffin creature, and you cannot disprove me. What you can do, however, is gather enough evidence (or lack thereof) and reduce the odds of my being right to virtually nothing. If science doesn't recognize something, there is usually a good reason for it...namely, a lack of evidence or the incapability of replicating experimental results under laboratory conditions.
If anyone here thinks they could prove shared dreaming is real, I beg of you, head on down to the nearest laboratory and set up an experiment.
Just an endnote: science is not claiming that shared dreaming is impossible or does not happen, but as of yet, there is insufficient evidence to draw any conclusions on its existence. That is all.
Ooh i'm gonna watch that one when I finish studying.
btw got my filosophy exam next week and i'm seeing tons of interesting stuff that actually makes it easy for me to enjoy this course, since i link a lot of things to dreaming and the dreamworld ! :D Hooray
I've been experimenting with shared dreaming and have had a few interesting occurrences, one of them being a character in a dream that the other person was able to describe perfectly.
Although, I find that if shared dreaming is possible, its not very reliable.
How do you not understand this?! Its really naive to assume that something as POWERFUL as shared dreaming would go COMPLETELY unnoticed by the scientific community!
I'm not going to say shared dreaming is impossible becuase I don't want to get into the whole "nothing is impossible" debate. I'm just saying that the experiments conducted thus far are so far from scientific that any belief now is quite simply leap of faith. There is nothing wrong with a leaps of faith, just don't pretend its been proven, unless is has.
I agree with Mario92, if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out!
Because something hasn't been proven doesn't mean its been disproven. Remember when the world was flat? :P
"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow..."