Thread: Is sharing dreams possible ?

Like the title says

If you mean talking to someone else about a dream you had and sharing the details, then yes.

If you mean actually being in the same dream as someone else, then no.

I believe sharing dreams is possibe, though some believe that it's impossible.

I take a skeptical stance on this...there are some good recorded cases, but I'm still not entirely convinced. Guess I'm just going to have to try and see for myself. ^_^

I think it's narrow-minded to insist that this type of thing never occurs (being in someone else's dream). A good place to study would be twins I'd imagine.

As far as sharing strong similarities in dreams happening within a short time of each other, I believe that is far more common.

I imagine it's never like the movie Dreamscape, but two people working in tandem could have some results of unity to their dreams. Why not? I hope more advanced dreamworkers here have some personal examples....

xoxo
Izabael

Originally Posted by izabael

I think it's narrow-minded to insist that this type of thing never occurs (being in someone else's dream).

*bites tongue*

Must not bring debate into thread. Must not post video...

I shall just say this: demanding evidence is not being close-minded. I just happen to be seeing a lack of very SOLID evidence, I guess. Thus far, all of the first-hand experiments seem to involve communication between the parties, which *may* be able to corrupt the results. What needs to happen is that there needs to be experiments run under laboratory settings with contact between the two parties that shall attempt to share dreams limited, monitored, and heavily regulated. If results can be produced relatively consistently between multiple parties of subjects, then shared dreaming would definitely hold water. As is, though, I'm just...skeptical. I'm not saying it doesn't happen or that it is impossible, I'm just...skeptical.

Originally Posted by Levels

If you mean talking to someone else about a dream you had and sharing the details, then yes.

If you mean actually being in the same dream as someone else, then no.

Obviously, oh so obviously i mean number 2.
but hey, thanks.

I've been experimenting with shared dreaming and have had a few interesting occurrences, one of them being a character in a dream that the other person was able to describe perfectly.
Although, I find that if shared dreaming is possible, its not very reliable.

How do you not understand this?! Its really naive to assume that something as POWERFUL as shared dreaming would go COMPLETELY unnoticed by the scientific community!

I'm not going to say shared dreaming is impossible becuase I don't want to get into the whole "nothing is impossible" debate. I'm just saying that the experiments conducted thus far are so far from scientific that any belief now is quite simply leap of faith. There is nothing wrong with a leaps of faith, just don't pretend its been proven, unless is has.

I agree with Mario92, if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out!

Because something hasn't been proven doesn't mean its been disproven. Remember when the world was flat?

"Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow..."

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

Its really naive to assume that something as POWERFUL as shared dreaming would go COMPLETELY unnoticed by the scientific community!

I believe I've already addressed that concern above.

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

How do you not understand this?! Its really naive to assume that something as POWERFUL as shared dreaming would go COMPLETELY unnoticed by the scientific community!

I'm not going to say shared dreaming is impossible becuase I don't want to get into the whole "nothing is impossible" debate. I'm just saying that the experiments conducted thus far are so far from scientific that any belief now is quite simply leap of faith. There is nothing wrong with a leaps of faith, just don't pretend its been proven, unless is has.

I agree with Mario92, if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out!

Science currently invests more resources in researching viagra that in cancer. Sad but true. And one question, shared dreams make money? Hmmm I think not. Look, I don't know who's here the naive, but I prefer to believe in my own experience that a man with a coat, call me naive if you want, but I'll be a naive who likes think by himself

Catalyst:

we can share an experience yet still read it differently so sharing an existance on this planet with knowledge of the infinite power in the lucid mind, when one can see this for a removed standpoint of created definition as a sd.

Originally Posted by Tarsso

Science currently invests more resources in researching viagra that in cancer. Sad but true. And one question, shared dreams make money? Hmmm I think not. Look, I don't know who's here the naive, but I prefer to believe in my own experience that a man with a coat, call me naive if you want, but I'll be a naive who likes think by himself

...because, you know, infiltrating the minds of people, say terrorists, would have no benefits at all...I don't know how shared dreaming would work, but I can see some serious applications.

Originally Posted by Levels

If you mean actually being in the same dream as someone else, then no.

Do you have any evidence to back that up? I thought not.

Shared dreaming is a personal thing, and you can only truly 'believe' in it until you experience it. Until then its a hope. You can never truly know its not possible either.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Do you have any evidence to back that up? I thought not.

Shared dreaming is a personal thing, and you can only truly 'believe' in it until you experience it. Until then its a hope. You can never truly know its not possible either.

Um, just a note on logical reasoning and rational thought: you don't need evidence to make a negative claim; rather, you need evidence to make a positive one. So, in the statement, "Does shared dreaming exist?", "no" is the negative statement, and "yes" is the positive. The person claiming "no" does not need evidence to back up his position, but the person claiming "yes" does. Even though it may be irrational to believe the negative statement in some cases, the person making that claim still does not require evidence.

You can claim that the planet Earth exists, which is making a positive claim. You have mountains of evidence at your disposal (literally). However, someone could still say that there is not enough evidence to make the conclusion that earth exists, even if it does go against rational thought. The person making the negative claim does not need evidence, just a solid refutation of evidence.

Does the flying spaghetti monster exist? How are you going to provide evidence that it cannot exist? All you can do is refute whatever flimsy arguments the other side has cobbled together.

Originally Posted by Mario92

Um, just a note on logical reasoning and rational thought: you don't need evidence to make a negative claim; rather, you need evidence to make a positive one. So, in the statement, "Does shared dreaming exist?", "no" is the negative statement, and "yes" is the positive. The person claiming "no" does not need evidence to back up his position, but the person claiming "yes" does. Even though it may be irrational to believe the negative statement in some cases, the person making that claim still does not require evidence.

You can claim that the planet Earth exists, which is making a positive claim. You have mountains of evidence at your disposal (literally). However, someone could still say that there is not enough evidence to make the conclusion that earth exists, even if it does go against rational thought. The person making the negative claim does not need evidence, just a solid refutation of evidence.

Does the flying spaghetti monster exist? How are you going to provide evidence that it cannot exist? All you can do is refute whatever flimsy arguments the other side has cobbled together.

Fair enough. All I'm saying is that 1. Absense of Evidence is not Evidence of Absense. 2. You can't 'believe' in shared dreaming until you have experience with it.

Originally Posted by Kraftwerk

Fair enough. All I'm saying is that 1. Absense of Evidence is not Evidence of Absense. 2. You can't 'believe' in shared dreaming until you have experience with it.

Granted, and it is silly to speak in absolutes, but to assume something to be true without substantial evidence is...rather foolish. I'm all for people conducting their own experiments to prove to themselves whether or not something is real (if you have results, please, aid the scientific community by volunteering at the nearest laboratory).

Originally Posted by Mario92

Um, just a note on logical reasoning and rational thought: you don't need evidence to make a negative claim; rather, you need evidence to make a positive one. So, in the statement, "Does shared dreaming exist?", "no" is the negative statement, and "yes" is the positive. The person claiming "no" does not need evidence to back up his position, but the person claiming "yes" does. Even though it may be irrational to believe the negative statement in some cases, the person making that claim still does not require evidence.

You can claim that the planet Earth exists, which is making a positive claim. You have mountains of evidence at your disposal (literally). However, someone could still say that there is not enough evidence to make the conclusion that earth exists, even if it does go against rational thought. The person making the negative claim does not need evidence, just a solid refutation of evidence.

Does the flying spaghetti monster exist? How are you going to provide evidence that it cannot exist? All you can do is refute whatever flimsy arguments the other side has cobbled together.

We are only saying that give an opinion without experience is NOT sufficient to be conclusive.

Now refute it

All I was saying is that when Kraftwerk demanded evidence that shared dreaming does NOT exist, he made a logical fallacy, as evidence must be submitted that shared dreaming DOES exist, not the other way around. Personally, I'm unconvinced either way, and plan to conduct my own experminents in this area.

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

Like the title says

It is very unlikely.

Just as all the other paranormal stuff that has never been proven

Originally Posted by LostKiddo

Like the title says

Its possible if you believe it is. Best to figure it out for yourself, try to leave the doubts aside until you really give it an honest try. A few people here are involved with shared dreaming, check it out here: http://www.dreamviews.com/community/...ad.php?t=84188. I haven't been lucid in a while but for my next good one I'm gonna try to join them.

Its just simple combination of coincidence and placebo effect. People want to dream about someone, so they do. Then when they talk about it, there brain tricks them into matching things together. People simply believe what they want to believe. Labs conduct scientific studies for this exact reason.

Again, if this was real it would be recognized. And I don't mean a side note in a medical journal either, I mean full blown media storm. Labs would be diving to publish results. The implications would be huge!

If you don't believe in tarrot cards, ESP, or magic I wouldn't give this any more credibility.

Originally Posted by SystemsLock

Again, if this was real it would be recognized. And I don't mean a side note in a medical journal either, I mean full blown media storm. Labs would be diving to publish results. The implications would be huge!

There is no good way of measuring the phenomenon objectively, and on top
of that it is difficult for two people to coordinate dreams in a way that would
allow them to share during the same time. Furthermore, dream sharing would
have to rely on a means of communication between brains that isn't
currently recognized in current scientific understanding, ergo the dream
sharing effect isn't given much attention.

Is it possible? Maybe. That's the best answer I can give.

My own experiences with dream sharing attempts have been curious. No
successes, but not entire failures, either. Try it yourself. Also, run a search
for other discussion on the site. It's been discussed far and wide.