Full of hope! Great! :D Those dry spells can get shorter and shorter with the right approach. :)
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Full of hope! Great! :D Those dry spells can get shorter and shorter with the right approach. :)
I'm back on the roll it looks like!!
I had RRCd more seriously when I joined up, and still didn't have one - but after that - if I made 5 of them in the day - that was rather a lot..:oops:
Taking into account the bit embarrassing fact, that I tend to repeatedly encounter dream-toilets - I did one every single time I went irl - and some more for good measure.
This definitively helped!!
Before the following excerpt - I had locked myself into a small room - and that locking of the door by turning around a knob so something outside went to red - that did it.
And I am now very much on nose-plug. But with looking back 10 min. - checking all senses for lack of input, clarity or weirdness.
In the day - I had breathed out fully first - that makes it more convincing - esp. if you got to really snap for air irl after re-opening.
I kept thinking I cheat the first several times I used it in a dream.
This is what I got: LD Even Before The Alarms!! Well - Lucid Fragments In Another Dream - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views
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But what came to my mind this time wasn't darts or TOTMs - but dutchraptors 5 lucid criteria.
I knew that I was dreaming - I remembered these criteria - and decided to break through a closed window.
First I touched the glass - and then I just pushed my lower arms through.
What happened when I broke through was, that this window behaved, as if it had been a thin plastic foil with some metal-foil mimicking a mirror then.
So then I was outside and hovering like 2 m over the ground - and wanted to make sure, I know there are no consequences to what I do.
There was a group of people standing about - and I took a long stick from a tree - and poked them.
I know..:roll:
At least I didn't care, what they thought of me. They looked a bit afraid, asked what that was all about - but didn't leave.
Well yeah - and I was on the one hand able to contemplate, that it constituted a failure not to do more - on the other hand - I couldn't bring myself to seriously hurt or kill somebody.
With that I lost lucidity.
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Congratulations on your lucid Steph!! :D
This had me laughing! I really like though that you are using Dutchraptor's criteria. I will have to look up that thread as I remember reading it at some point and liked the thinking behind it...assuming I am thinking of the same one. It's obvious to me from my LDs that I know there are no consequences, but I have never tried to kill myself in a lucid and wouldn't see the point in something like that example.Quote:
There was a group of people standing about - and I took a long stick from a tree - and poked them.
I know..
Speaking of Dutchraptor I don't think I'd every be able take a bite from a tree....haha OK now I have to do it. Next time I'm lucid and see a tree.... probably will taste like "Grape Nuts"!
Thank youhuu!
Yeah - actually, I think, I did enough with molesting them.
Unfortunately the whole action ended lucidity in some way - it's the last I remember - hovering up there and not wanting to make the dream really nasty.
The most important thing for me I believe, is preparing myself so, that I take a moment to really consider, what my options are, and what I want.
I was pretty "reasonable" in that LD - but didn't take enough time to actually think and remember.
It was not bad like this - I had read his lesson 1 in the academy before going to sleep - and it was the first time, that I pushed my hands through a closed window - or any other solid thing.
It was interesting - I was a bit worried, if it might hurt or something - and it was a strange feeling - as I said like ripping through a taut plastic foil. So - in actuality - I didn't phase through a closed window, but transformed the glass into something, where I could break through just like that.
There is more to be learned there, still.
Hehe - do that!
Once when I concentrated on all sorts of stabilization things - and lost the LD while doing so - I had kneed down on a meadow - and smelt the grass - but when I put a bit of clover in my mouth - it didn't taste, and I didn't even feel it there - and pooof - LD gone, woke up.
But one time - I "made" chocolate out of jewellery for the comp - that tasted just fine.
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There is more to be learned there, still.
By the way, I was just reviewing Mzzkc's stabilization thread today and noticed he must have stated the effects of any imbalance backwards in the OP/post #1 under the "Bringing it all Together" summary. His later post matches my viewpoint...post #15 of the thread here: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-cont...ml#post1792173 ...namely that too much focus on self can return you to your waking self (fade to black) and too much focus on the dream world only, can have you continue into a regular dream no longer lucid.
I did it!!!
I played lucid daaarts!
Soo great - I used the lately often mentioned pretend-remember-technique - being in a house - I "remembered" that there was a dart-board and arrows next door - and they were!!
Yupp - need stabilization stuff now for sure - it was a bit blurry - also metaphorically speaking - I can't remember, what I hit - I think I just threw at the board, to see, if I really can, and if they really fly naturally - and they did!!
I mean - not a wonder, that my unconscious knows about how darts fly, did that enough often - but it really felt natural - and even the oche-length - I was worried, that it wouldn't be dreamt correctly - but it felt all right!!
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Awesome Steph! You are on a roll! :D I wish you some more lucid dart throwing practice! I think I told you that I have experimented with a different sport and it seemed productive but there were breaks from realism (I had more skills/agility in the lucid dream).
Yeah - I was also a bit worried about getting a realistic ballistic arc - but it was there - I think.
At least I didn't notice anything wrong with the physical details of it all while in the dream.
If I had been able to judge that correctly, though - I would (still?) know now, what I've hit. Soo - less hazy next time please!
I was playing badly yesterday evening/this morning - but that's not connected, I hope..Attachment 6492
To check, where I stand at the moment concerning statistics - I should get on WDA (WebcamDartsOrganisation) and play like 20 legs or something.
Won't look good, that much is clear.
At least I have plenty room for improvement as a relative novice - something to determine!
Hoping to be in a hurry, to get some "pre-lucid controls" in - but honestly - I hope to rather mess that up, by going back lucid darting later this morning! :D
Got to play on Sunday - and not like that last session please!!
Blablabla - sorry...:offtobed:
I would be surprised if it was connected. Good luck getting some more lucid practice! :) Have you tried incubating dart throwing to show up in your dreams?Quote:
I was playing badly yesterday evening/this morning - but that's not connected, I hope..
Nope - not really yet.
Hopefully I get out of the rut with darts and do some real training today.
With that I can then try to incubate.
Need to fire up my passion for them small metal things again - somehow LDing and also this forum distracts me a bit!
I'll have to balance my hobby-activities more - taking part on here is great - but also slightly addictive! Attachment 6515
Can't keep my fingers off the off-topicing so easily, though - it is great to find a bunch of people interested in the "unconventional" as much as me!
Edit: How silly is that - answering here and not reporting my last-night two mini-lucidities!
WBTB WILD fail again - but I only kept at it some minutes.
In the next dream, I wanted to go somewhere and I realized, that I was dreaming, but as if it was something completely unremarkable, just to make it easier for me to commute.
So I flew somewhere twice and happily dreamt on non-lucidly.
Na well - can't hurt.
Doesn't really justify to update my count - but I added one.
I say definitely celebrate them even if they seem like small victories! :D
Hi fogelbise!
Just short update - I had a beautiful LD - finally really vivid and stable - maybe even from starting out meditating - or maybe not.
And I have still this dreamsign conundrum - with a maybe insight-generating new experience - I posted that in the questions for podcast thread - copy paste:
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How to become aware of dream-signs, which do not show up irl, and thus cannot be RCed on??
I have identified tons of dream-signs of which I keep dreaming over and over and then some.
Only in the rarest cases do I recognize them to get lucid.
I caught up with the toilets only by doing RCs almost every time I go irl. But almost all other dreamsigns don't occur in my actual life (any more).
But now I had an interesting - almost puzzling occurrence. In a normal dream not long ago, I was digging in the ground and found more and more finger rings. Journalled this as well.
When I dreamt the same thing two nights back - I became instantly lucid by remembering, that I had dreamt it before. Really convincing this was - no need for RC even.
How come this was so powerful, and all the rest I ignore??
What can I do to pin down the others?
If I got lucid from lets say my most persistent 5 signs - I would be lucid every single night and often in several dreams!
As said - I can't RC on their occurence..
I tried it with mantraing over the day and in bed - when ever I see x, I know that I am dreaming, and visualizing x with it - but it doesn't work.
Sometimes I wonder if this is because unconsciously I want to dream of these things - mostly the place I grew up at and some people I miss irl, because they are geographically far away and contact is sparse.
Maybe I want them simulated realistically?
But then - maybe my dreaming brain is simply so used to dreaming these things, that it can't figure them out of the ordinary??
If I found a solution to that - I had a magic key!
Yeah - I know I asked before - but do you maybe have ideas for me?
Thank you!
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Congrats on the beautiful, vivid and stable LD!!! :D
My thought on the dream sign challenges is that you should still do those things that seem like they are not working: mantras and visualization(+prospective and regular memory), but also boost your chances for higher awareness through a combination of daytime work and timing. I have noticed that when my awareness is low, for whatever reason, it doesn't matter how reliable a dream sign normally is for me, I will just go on with the dream completely unaware accepting everything thrown at me as being normal. The timing aspect is of course where you find better chance for higher waking life awareness or memory after sleeping for 5-6 hours and focus your efforts during those times. Personally, my awareness usually (though not always) starts to wane again after 8 hours of sleep as I seem to have already gotten enough sleep and just seem to zone out during that additional sleep. I am sure everyone is different though.
Thank you - okay - I will try to intensify these activities and put them into WBTB!
Maybe once I start recognizing one - a dam breaks and it's open for detection then further..?
I do not have one ds, that I could call reliable among sooo many..
I hope so. I have had some dream sign success but it didn't seem break the dam free and my guess was that the awareness was very important and the dream signs were more of a hint. I don't have any data to support this but that is my gut feeling. Of course, having some dream sign success could provide some encouragement and thus a boost.
Hm!!
Makes perfect sense.
Good ol' awareness...
News again!
Two short lucid moments directly at the end of dreams - but I didn't DEILD unfortunately - I guess, I really got to prepare consciously for such, otherwise it doesn't come to my mind easily.
And then this occurrence:
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It happened again.
Sunbathing with my mother on the balcony of the house, she sold and which is ripped down.
I turn to her and say - you know - for a while I have only dreamt of this house a whole lot. But since we are really here, and all the time (I dream of it a lot) - how can that be?
She said - yeah - she sold the ground, and didn't tell me, that it would still stand - behind the two big apartment houses, I had seen, when I had been coming here to look.
Somehow I was sceptic, because we didn't own that much ground and there was a hill in it - but I thought - ah - that's the earth from where they built the new ones.
And then of course I got into a tirade how maximally unfair this would have been of my mother, to for years have this secret, and I can only dream of it.
While she sunbaths etc.
But it was muuch closer than just dreaming of it! Mantraing on it starts to work maybe?
Congrats on the brief lucids and a close call on the dream sign! Me too last night! I have a more recent dream sign of noticing oddities when I look into the night sky and it has helped me to become lucid before but last night I think my self-awareness was too low (it was earlier in the night). Stars kept disappearing when I would focus on them and I realized that was odd and I tried to do a float RC but didn't float and didn't try any other RCs and seemed to wake up from that moment.
On the DEILDs...yes, my success with them was when I was really focusing on remembering to always try to re-enter a dream upon any mini-awakening. Unfortunately, I have gotten away from that but I need to re-focus, because it is a good way to get more lucids.
Yeah - I keep thinking - na - tonight I'm lazy - and then there is something, where I know, it would have been so close, so easy - had I just put in that little more effort, about which I already forgot.
Like taking note of ending dreams and getting lucid there - and be mentally prepared for DEILD.
Came as a surprise - and twice.
What I liked about the second instance, was how it happened - I got tipped off by seeing my own head in 3rd person perspective.
Trying to explain, what haircut corrections I wanted.
Plus they turned blonde - but it was rather the perspective.
I hope - and do since a while for darts - to be able to implement that - at least I know, I can do it in non-lucidity now!
Might sound superficially "female" - but got a new short cut irl and it's different - worth some nightly ongoings, I find.
What I meant, was obsessing over haircuts is a bit of a silly thing to dream of - but it comes from having shed around 20 cm to really short hair lately.
Just forget it - that comment was silly - not dreamings of haircuts!
:)
Ah, I get it now. I bet it looks great! :)
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Why does nobody do this?
Upon reading up on overdosing Melatonin, and that I don't have to worry one bit with it - I took 15 mg - 5 small pills.
It is even a very potent and healthy antioxidant - like vitamin C and E...
And I didn't do nothing else - absolutely nothing in the day and in bed.
Edit: Oh wait - I did about 5 min. meditation in the afternoon..
And yepp!!
There were even three instances that night - somewhere in the first 7 h hours of sleep.
What is a bit stupid, is that I didn't journal directly after the dreams - but went on to heavily oversleep afterwards - I guess I slept 12 h or so.
Side effect from the Melatonin, I guess - but I wasn't tired or feeling smashed after getting up.
I guess, I could have gotten up earlier without problems too.
I know, I forgot large parts of the lucidity like this.
Good that I remembered the TOTM and now also remember doing it - but not much else from these instances.
First off - I got lucid from realizing, that the old house cannot be real, because it has been ripped down!!
It was again a bit back and forth with - but it is soo real - but it can't be real - but it looks soo .. and then finally a RC.
If this would reliably work - as I said - I got a chance every night on that house - if I don't stop dreaming of it so much, once I register it isn't for real??
This time I really took my time with pondering the implications of lucidity - dutchraptor-like, unfortunately forgot to do a full-sensory inventory - but it was pretty stable anyway.
What didn't work was phasing through a big closed window - it broke and it hurt a bit - I also clearly remember this.
It's such a shame I forgot so much - that won't happen again - I promise myself to journal instantly after an LD!!
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Edit: Forgot - I wear a sleeping mask since two days - this might have helped as well.
Very nice result!!! :D Was that 3 separate DILDs perhaps? If so, maybe waking up to record the first one might not have given you the chance for one of the others...who knows. It sounded like you were doing 3 different "new" things...please do report back if you find that one was more of a boost than the others.
I hope not! I have wondered the same thing, like how my nightmares disappeared after realizing I was dreaming and taking action as a child...and more recently one dream sign has stopped showing, but I don't think that it has to be that way...let's hope not! :)Quote:
If this would reliably work - as I said - I got a chance every night on that house - if I don't stop dreaming of it so much, once I register it isn't for real??