use your DCs to help you stabilize

this isn't a stabilization technique to be used on its own, but a way to bring more order into the dream to make this process easier.

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i've often had dream characters either attack me or distract me in some other way, and it makes it difficult to stabilize when this is going on. i've gone from fighting back to yelling at them (gtfo of my dream!) to ignoring them.

my thoughts are that if a DC is a part of your mind, when their actions counter what you're trying to do your attention is diffuse; there are conflicting sets of intentions being processed at the same time, and the discordance of the mental programs interferes with your lucidity and contributes to you waking up.

so imagine that you have just become lucid and want to stabilize - you want to be in control of yourself, able to stay asleep, and in a clear setting. if a DC attacks you before you can do this, a lot of attention is going into the fight - including the actions of the DC. if you yell at them or ignore them they may remain in the dream (sometimes not), but then your attention is still on averting them.

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multiple people working in conjunction can produce more than one person could on his own (or one person working with others hassling him).

i've been in the middle of trying to maintain a dream and asked DCs how to do this better, but they don't give helpful answers - it would follow the previous logic that in the hazy beginning of a dream a hesitation like this would diffuse your attention as well.

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so try getting a DC to stabilize, too.
this would mean that those different aspects of yourself have the same desire as you; the mental programs are running together without a glitch.
if i tell a DC to focus on their hand (what i do to begin my stabilization routine), more attention is brought to the dream being lucid, that i need to complete this routine, and the scene clears up.

if you can change the actions of dream characters from obstacles to something supportive, it should be easier to get past the crucial first minute or so and move onto what you can only do when fully lucid.

This makes sense,

thanks alot!

MY DCs always attack me... I'm glad im not the only one with this problem.

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Originally Posted by dakotahnok

This makes sense,

thanks alot!

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the alot says "no problem"

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very interesting! i use something quite similar but not in the same way

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Originally Posted by cygnus

the alot says "no problem"

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"A LOT"

Better? lol

i forgot to mention that these ideas definitely apply to people who have rampant lucid sex drives (it's how i've been learning to control this impulse) ... here's an example of how i did this the other day:

i saw two girls i know walking down a staircase in my direction. i stopped once i walked into an open space and saw that there were a bunch of other girls i know IRL all converging on me. normally this would end as you might expect, but i said out loud that it was a dream and told them to do what i was doing to stabilize (which helped me focus).

A lot of times I'll argue with DCs, trying to convince them that we're in a dream. This usually escalates to them attacking me. This strategy could help.. Instead of trying to convince them to stop attacking me, I can convince them to do as I do; stabilize.

yeah, but there's no need to convince them of anything (at least not in the very beginning of the dream). just knowing that it's a dream and moving straight into stabilization with purpose is the idea - entertaining doubts isn't really that important considering that you're trying to draw more attention to the dream and any cooperation from those characters (along with being focused on what you're doing) should make the attacks less of a problem.

and nice In Absentia avatar :)

Haha, yeah, Porcupine Tree ftw.