just wondering. i havnt mastered LD yet :oops:
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just wondering. i havnt mastered LD yet :oops:
Think about sex before and during you fall asleep. Concentrate on the imagery to i suppose. It shuold work....most of the time...
Yep I agree. Yay for erotic dreams! :coolspot: It's called dream induction. Just think of whatever you want to dream about right up until you fall asleep.
Since when has sex become such a big problem? Are your hands tied behind your back? There are better uses for dreams. Sex in dreams only ends the dream. Besides, its a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, is it not? It is not as though there are not enough real sex partners out there, if one has any charm at all. Isn't most of the fun in the chase? and in Dreams there is no chase... sex in dreams is as easy as a drunken orgy, and about as fun (if you ever want to be completely celebate for the rest of your life, but still think you have some residual desire for sex, then go to a drunken orgy and you'll go away quite happy to never have sex again).
But I have noticed that if one refrains from jumping on them, that there can be a great deal of flirting in dreams. And hand-holding and laughing does not wake one up, and the dreams can continue on around other more serious themes, even while one is keeping pleasant company.
Oh, please, let's be realistic. Can a guy think about sex before going to sleep and still hope to go to sleep?Quote:
Originally posted by nightowl
Think about sex before and during you fall asleep. Concentrate on the imagery to i suppose. It shuold work....most of the time...
Oh, please, let's be reasonable. If one has strong opinions, it's totally OK. There's still no reason for judging other people's decisions just because of one's own opinions. If someone doesn't have a partner, and wants to have sex dreams, it's OK, isn't it? Propably they will get bored to sex dreams after they got a real partner, propably not, and it's still totally acceptable.
This is HIS dreams, not yours. If he wants to have sex in his dreams, then let him.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
Since when has sex become such a big problem? *Are your hands tied behind your back? *There are better uses for dreams. *Sex in dreams only ends the dream. *Besides, its a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, is it not? *It is not as though there are not enough real sex partners out there, if one has any charm at all. *Isn't most of the fun in the chase? and in Dreams there is no chase... sex in dreams is as easy as a drunken orgy, and about as fun (if you ever want to be completely celebate for the rest of your life, but still think you have some residual desire for sex, then go to a drunken orgy and you'll go away quite happy to never have sex again). *
But I have noticed that if one refrains from jumping on them, that there can be a great deal of flirting in dreams. *And hand-holding and laughing does not wake one up, and the dreams can continue on around other more serious themes, even while one is keeping pleasant company.
BTW: Scwigglie! you're back! :cactus: woohooo...we were wondering where you went.
I've never become fully lucid during an errotic dream, but I've understood what's going on.
I've found that the only errotic dreams I've had, the girl/s have been unatractive in both personality and looks. But being the 18 year old virgin I am, I tried to push it anyway.
Before anything 'drastic' happened, moral disgust kicked in and I woke up.
I instantly dispised myself for wanting it that badly, and understood that I needed to resolve to get out more and find myself a real girlfriend, instead of waiting for a fairytale romance to come along.
The one time I've found myself with a girl I liked, I didn't have the heart to push anything.
This taught me that I'm a nice guy and nice guys are very nice but quite litrily don't go home with the girl.
I've also dreamed of seeing other lovers, which taught me jelousey.
Therefore, errotic dreams have their uses other than plesure.
i agree with the last bit totally...i've had quite a few encounters with dream characters that have never gone further than holding hands and talking. I tried the whole thing once...it was good, but i wouldn't do it again.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
Since when has sex become such a big problem? Are your hands tied behind your back? There are better uses for dreams. Sex in dreams only ends the dream. Besides, its a bit like shooting fish in a barrel, is it not? It is not as though there are not enough real sex partners out there, if one has any charm at all. Isn't most of the fun in the chase? and in Dreams there is no chase... sex in dreams is as easy as a drunken orgy, and about as fun (if you ever want to be completely celebate for the rest of your life, but still think you have some residual desire for sex, then go to a drunken orgy and you'll go away quite happy to never have sex again).
But I have noticed that if one refrains from jumping on them, that there can be a great deal of flirting in dreams. And hand-holding and laughing does not wake one up, and the dreams can continue on around other more serious themes, even while one is keeping pleasant company.
No fun in it, when you wake up and there's nobody there...you feel like you've lost something.
You can induce tons of erotic dreams by thinking and convincing yourself that you will have them.
I remember thinking "I can have all sex dreams I want and dont want" used to work wonderfully for me - I got entire week of mostly sex dreams :) Not sure if you want that much..
However, recently I found that I enjoy less sexual activities , such as dancing or kissing much more pleasant then pure sex :)
but whatever floats your boat
So what happened to this being a discussion forum. Should I do what everyone else has done and simply leave this discussion alone. Apparently the only reason you could comment was to criticize me for having commented.Quote:
Originally posted by Hate
Oh, please, let's be reasonable. If one has strong opinions, it's totally OK. There's still no reason for judging other people's decisions just because of one's own opinions. If someone doesn't have a partner, and wants to have sex dreams, it's OK, isn't it? Propably they will get bored to sex dreams after they got a real partner, propably not, and it's still totally acceptable.
But since your only advice is to tell people to shut up.... why don't you?
You missed my point. You are so consumed with protecting people's right to be as dripping with slime as they'd like, that you failed to check for substantial content. I said that sex brings dreams to an end. One can't both have sex AND dream. The one thing brings the other thing to a close. And then my second point was one of practicality -- that one cannot THINK about sex and then go to sleep. Sleep requires some modicum of piece of mind which is hardly possible if one is already practically thrusting away.Quote:
Originally posted by nightowl
This is HIS dreams, not yours. If he wants to have sex in his dreams, then let him.
BTW: Scwigglie! you're back! :cactus: woohooo...we were wondering where you went.
Besides, this IS a discussion forum, is it not? With some 50 plus years of dreaming under my belt, I think I am qualified to assert that one is pursuing a dead end in dreaming if one's only ambition is to dream for sex. And I also stand by my observation that if the person had the least bit of charm or personality than one would not have to resort to one's dreams for that kind of thing, and if any person is seriously challenged for charm or personality, then there are easier ways of having an orgasm than to dream one up.
Also, this whole subject reminds me of an old insult, "that one couldn't get laid in a dream", something that seems to apply to our friend here.
Oh, I've been criticized for not being constructive and helpful, and for this I apologize, and so I will give you my sincere advice on how to have more errotic dreams.
First one needs to liberate oneself from every trace of personal dignity, self-esteem, or even the spirit for decent personal hygiene. One must really degrade oneself. The lower the better. First, get rid of that bed. One needs only the bath tub, which one can fill full of whatever slimes and excrements that are on hand. That should be able to set the tone for one's basest instincts. And then one can get in the mood by taking into one's every available bodily orifice all manners of living squiggly things. But that is only preparation for the body. One needs to prepare one's soul. Toss out all literature with any higher appeal. One should concentrate on only the most purient of literatures. Here there is a slight problem as the best literatures for this use are often illegal or are considered so far below decent taste that no reputable retailer will carry them. But I'm sure if one roots around on the seemy side of town long enough one will find literature sufficiently focussed enough so that your every thought is as low as it could possibly go.
That should be enough to do it. Now simply fall asleep and you will have the dreams of your lifetime.
Huh? What makes you so confident to refer to that as an extreme truth? Your own experiences? Or is it scientifically proved? I have had sex AND a dream several times, even sex and a lucid dream a few times. It does usually wake me up from an LD, but in a normal dream it just goes on as you and your brain think that it's real life.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
I said that sex brings dreams to an end. One can't both have sex AND dream. The one thing brings the other thing to a close. And then my second point was one of practicality -- that one cannot THINK about sex and then go to sleep.
Eating chocolate can help too (seriously)
Yea I been reading a few of your posts, we think very alike.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
Oh, please, let's be realistic. Can a guy think about sex before going to sleep and still hope to go to sleep?
"I will have a dream about sex."
Say that over and over. It works with inducting LDing so why not sex.
The key for sex in dreams for me (and this may only work in men I'm not sure) is to drink a lot of water before going to bed. Then several hours into sleep One of two things will happen. You'll either dream of trying to find a bathroom or dream of having sex. Sometimes for me it will be both. I'll be about to have sex but then have to go to the bathroom and then come back for more sex. I believe it's the pressure in the bladder and the genital area that creates these dreams. I've found that in LD's though it can bring it to an end but not always because I've developed great dream control. Sex in non LD's never make the dream end for me.
Anyone else here have the same kind of thing happen to them if they drink a bunch of liquid before going to sleep?
can't say it has...my one experience was pure chance...
I've found existenceisadream's method to work there aswell, although not that I have tried it intentionally, however, I've also discovered that as Irish cream said, sex does indeed end a dream, and if it doesn't it drags you a significant distance toward waking and weakens the dream.
ever noticed that any other strong emotion wakens you too? one time i had an extremely sad dream...so sad i was crying in the dream, and when i woke up, i was crying too.
it would seem that strong emotions wake us up...
Very true...although, like Ex mentioned, the sex is always interrupted with an urge to urinate, making the dream sex less enjoyable.Quote:
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The key for sex in dreams for me (and this may only work in men I'm not sure) is to drink a lot of water before going to bed. Then several hours into sleep One of two things will happen. You'll either dream of trying to find a bathroom or dream of having sex.
About 80% of the dreams that I remember involve me having sex in them and only twice have I ever awoke during the act of intercourse, so the above statement is nothing more than an observation based on personal experience.Quote:
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I said that sex brings dreams to an end. One can't both have sex AND dream. The one thing brings the other thing to a close.
I find that if I don't masturbate before going to sleep then the intensity of the dream is increased. This may also increase your chances of having a sexual dream, but again I can't attest to that since a majority of my dreams already involve sex.
Speak for yourself!...and why does one have to be drunk to participate in an orgy? :|Quote:
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sex in dreams is as easy as a drunken orgy, and about as fun (if you ever want to be completely celebate for the rest of your life, but still think you have some residual desire for sex, then go to a drunken orgy and you'll go away quite happy to never have sex again).
No...but hers usually are. ;)Quote:
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Since when has sex become such a big problem? Are your hands tied behind your back?
If one has the least bit of tolerance or understanding than one would not have to resort to condemnatory rhetoric.Quote:
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And I also stand by my observation that if the person had the least bit of charm or personality than one would not have to resort to one's dreams for that kind of thing,
Someone once said, "One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people." I guess there is an exception to every rule. :?Quote:
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Also, this whole subject reminds me of an old insult, \"that one couldn't get laid in a dream\", something that seems to apply to our friend here.
Oh my \"Leo Volont\". You must really be some kind of spiritual guru up there in the skies to say such sarcastic things like this. This is indeed a discussion forum, but there were nothing to discussion in this post. To come forward and ask for this can be quite akward for some as it is, and it really doesnt help to stamp all over the person and refering to him as the lowest degraded creature without dignity or self esteem there is!?!Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
First one needs to liberate oneself from every trace of personal dignity, self-esteem, or even the spirit for decent personal hygiene. One must really degrade oneself. The lower the better. First, get rid of that bed. One needs only the bath tub, which one can fill full of whatever slimes and excrements that are on hand. That should be able to set the tone for one's basest instincts. And then one can get in the mood by taking into one's every available bodily orifice all manners of living squiggly things. But that is only preparation for the body. One needs to prepare one's soul. Toss out all literature with any higher appeal. One should concentrate on only the most purient of literatures. Here there is a slight problem as the best literatures for this use are often illegal or are considered so far below decent taste that no reputable retailer will carry them. But I'm sure if one roots around on the seemy side of town long enough one will find literature sufficiently focussed enough so that your every thought is as low as it could possibly go.
Sex is a big part of life, its a part of evolution and its a part of our deepest urges in our primitiv part of the brain, pushing on with evolution. Sex/Dreamsex is OK!
1. I can go to sleep while thinking about sex. But ive never tried using it as a WILD techinque. Il try that sometime. 2. Sex does not necessarly make a LD/NLD come to an end, if this is your personal experience talk for yourself. Imyself and many others ive heard about have enjoyed an act without loosing the dream. OR feeling shamefull,in regret or like a degraded person for acting fantasies out. Also about the dreamsex is like a drunken orgy? I do not agree. Im not a scientist but that states as counter proof.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Leo Volont)</div>You sum up people entire lifes, and think you know all about them(?) based on what theyre fantasies are in LD? You know nothing, and should wisely act like that to. There is no way of being, and there are over 6 billion people on this earth that differs from you. People have theyr reasons for doing what they are doing. Theyr reasons could be everything, but needs no explainations to others. But anyway, here is two reasons i can see for having sex in dreams:Quote:
And I also stand by my observation that if the person had the least bit of charm or personality than one would not have to resort to one's dreams for that kind of thing, and if any person is seriously challenged for charm or personality, then there are easier ways of having an orgasm than to dream one up.[/b]
-A LD platform is not only a adventoure land but also a training ground. One can train and improve every waking ability one needs perfection in, except flying maybe, and enjoy waking life even more.
-Its not for anyone to just go out and have sex whenever they want. There are persons and feelings involved. If one is together with another person then its settled, but for the ones lonely there can be a long way from sitting in the cafe, to ones first sex act. I dont look at sex as the goal in a relationship, but if one is not ready for a relationship sex dreams can be very fullfilling.
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One can't both have sex AND dream. The one thing brings the other thing to a close. And then my second point was one of practicality -- that one cannot THINK about sex and then go to sleep. Sleep requires some modicum of piece of mind which is hardly possible if one is already practically thrusting away.
A couple of times when I've been doing some physical, like running or skiing, in a dream, I get out of breath, I start to feel how I breath and then I wake up. I don't know if this counts as emotion, but anyway.Quote:
Originally posted by irishcream
ever noticed that any other strong emotion wakens you too? one time i had an extremely sad dream...so sad i was crying in the dream, and when i woke up, i was crying too.
it would seem that strong emotions wake us up...
yes actually, that works for me tooQuote:
Originally posted by existenceisadream
The key for sex in dreams for me (and this may only work in men I'm not sure) is to drink a lot of water before going to bed. Then several hours into sleep One of two things will happen. You'll either dream of trying to find a bathroom or dream of having sex. Sometimes for me it will be both. I'll be about to have sex but then have to go to the bathroom and then come back for more sex. I believe it's the pressure in the bladder and the genital area that creates these dreams. I've found that in LD's though it can bring it to an end but not always because I've developed great dream control. Sex in non LD's never make the dream end for me.
Anyone else here have the same kind of thing happen to them if they drink a bunch of liquid before going to sleep?