I know this seems kinda evil....but if you like....can you help compile a list of ways of killing DCs? Example: throwing them down the cliff.
:P
*I got a feeling some people will flare at me for this post*
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I know this seems kinda evil....but if you like....can you help compile a list of ways of killing DCs? Example: throwing them down the cliff.
:P
*I got a feeling some people will flare at me for this post*
You can kill DCs any way you want. Same as normal people except your willpower and the type of the DC come into play. If your intent is fuzzy and you are trying to kill your dream archnemesis - good luck with that :D
A more "peaceful" solution to problems with DCs is mind control : for example you can "dominate" the DC or wipe it's personality away leaving an empty shell that wont hinder your progress.
Oh..kill them...um..just think of killing them..or make them go poof....
I used some kung-fu moves and kicked the DC's ass....(sad) Or...you can summon energy beams and blast the DC away....:P.
Woot. One of my favorite past-times. Lol.
But don't worry, I only kill the ones that are trying to kill me first. 8)
I was being chased around a non-lucid dream by this 'Thing' once, and it was royally beating the hell out of me because it was moving around too fast for me to get away. So as I turn and start running, I'm like ..."Wait a minute...I'm Dreaming!" and, lucid, I turned around just as the thing was lunging at me, and grabbed it by the throat. Then I jumped up into the air while holding it and spiked its face like a volleyball, sending it down into the ground and cratering the earth.
Haha. Good times.
Beside that, the list is endless.
Definately...so many stylish ways to own DCs in dreams. Lol. I prefer energy blasts. :P
Kiss them all instead. Spread LUV and Flower Peace !!!!!!!!!!!. Instead of doing the "Expected", become totally Post-Modern and Blow their Minds !!!.
Lol....o.O. You can do whatever you want. :P. There is so much to do in my LD...:P...
Yes........But why Kill Them..............Explore New Tangents............It"s only a Dream.
First ensure that you are totally lucid. After a few RCs and you are totally convinced, reach in you pocket and pull out a pencil. Then take the eraser end and erase them. Even though they look 3 dimensional, think of them starting to become 2 dimensional and start erasing. Don’t know if it can be done but when I get the chance to …..
Yes..........But why kill them..............Give them a Big Sloppy Kiss !!!!!!!!!!!.
Wow.. what a creative idea! And so less violent (and messy) than some I've read! :goodjob2:Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtamer007
First ensure that you are totally lucid. After a few RCs and you are totally convinced, reach in you pocket and pull out a pencil. Then take the eraser end and erase them. Even though they look 3 dimensional, think of them starting to become 2 dimensional and start erasing. Don’t know if it can be done but when I get the chance to …..
But then again ...............they could be from a Higher Plain.
Hm..how bout summoning someone you hate into your LD..and then.......do something violent violent...hm....you know that show 'Naruto"? Ya......do something like....Chidori or some other ninjutsu...Lol. [/quote]
Pull them into "This World"...............That woud really Freak Them Out..............Ooooooooooooooooooooo......... Our Sorry Souls................!!!!!.
I'm going to pull off a Final Fantasy Summon in one of these dreams. 8)
Ug, you are right, this is violent. Why do you want to kill DCs anyway? I had a very nice lucid the other morning with hundreds of DCs walking around. I had no desire to kill any of them, matter of fact some of them were VERY friendly :wink:
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Originally posted by Raven
I know this seems kinda evil....but if you like....can you help compile a list of ways of killing DCs? Example: throwing them down the cliff. *
:P *
*I got a feeling some people will flare at me for this post*
great idea, more help on how to fulfil our human bloodlust
eat them.
i dont know why you would kill one unless its for self-defense
Anyway, when the situation arose, i opened my hands and shattered my DC's like they were glass. that was the only time i killed them
Cool. Glass shattering. Well...there are ppl you REALL:Y hate in reality. And when they appear in your dreams, you know you want to hurt them.....<_<. I prefer like...summoning no jutsu. Lol.
i just like put DC's in a wood chipper nice and simple
Why all the hatred? Why all the violence? Are you so self-indulgent?
You are but killing yourself.
I think people are taking this DC killing thing a little too seriously....
I've gotten into so many action movie-type scenarios, its hard to even count how many dream characters I've dispatche....does this mean I'm somehow worse off for it? Does this mean I'm a violent person who simply must project his violence in any way I can? No. I hate violence. I hate Real confrontation. I have a respect for martial arts, but as far as two people just going at it, I think it is, at most times, avoidable, to say the least. Whether you take dreaming as some deep, spiritual, or moral adventure, or simply nonsensical entertainment, is up to no one but the dreamer. Do you think that just because someone is entertained by taking out DC's (who are not real, btw) is more apt to walk around waking life projecting that onto others? And if so, I'd like to hear how you drew that conclusion. And I don't much get into the logic of "you're killing a part of yourself" because thats implying that Anything actually Dies when you kill a dream character.
I think judging someone's moral structure on whether or not they kill dream characters is a little over-the-top...kind of like judging a comic book or screen writer because you think 'too many people died' in a fictional work.
The only time I ever kill DCs are either if I am role playing in a horror movie, or they attack an alley of mine.Quote:
Originally posted by Seeker
Ug, you are right, this is violent. Why do you want to kill DCs anyway? I had a very nice lucid the other morning with hundreds of DCs walking around. I had no desire to kill any of them, matter of fact some of them were VERY friendly :wink:
Ooo! & be careful here, b/c you never know if you could be DSing w/one of them! In one of them though, I thought that my boss was just a DC, & I start shooting him w/my Machine gun (I was in a horror movie setting), but the bad thing is that my boss had the same dream at the same time, so I get in big trouble at work!
my favorit way, givin the chance, would be to throw them off of a plane, and down onto the space needle face first and just as they hit it, explode them.
Kastro187420
Points for creativity! :goodjob2:Quote:
my favorit way, givin the chance, would be to throw them off of a plane, and down onto the space needle face first and just as they hit it, explode them.[/b]
Maybe this is just me but i use the kiddish moves i see on t.v. they look quite fascinating when actually used in a dream this may make me look kiddish but oh well. I like to go with the good old Dragonball Z finish moves on DC's the Kamehameha works nicely or simple fist fighting like the matrix and i recall using a samurai sword once to :roll:
Some other DC's and I blew up a helicopter with a group Kamehameha wave, once.
That was tight. 8)
whip out your laser buzz saw and walk up to them, when they begin to cower in fear cut a finger off, then another and another until there all gone, then the arms, and legs, and while your keeping them alive with your dream powers hang them by their hair and use them as a piñata
:P
no... I’m not demonic what do you mean?
and just for the record this was off the top of my head, also I don’t recommend DC, violence, iv never done any action that even looked like I was attacking a DC
today me and a few DCs had a HL2 laser guided rocket launcher stand off. i won of course. a bit much considering we were only maybe 2 feet apart....
Jay Dawg said:
Lol. Nice. 8)Quote:
today me and a few DCs had a HL2 laser guided rocket launcher stand off. i won of course. a bit much considering we were only maybe 2 feet apart....[/b]
yup yup. Keep the list growing! Think of the most creative method! :-P
How about... curb-stomping them! Or going into their house and setting up booby traps like shotguns with strings between the doors and the triggers so when they open the door... BOOM. Or disembowling them. Or using 3-phase mains power to electrucute them. Or if they're pointing a gun at you, block the barrel so when they fire, the barrel explodes and lodges in their heads, a la Sin CIty. Or throwing them onto the blades of a helicopter.
Oh wait, we're talking about DCs? Uh.... so was I...
we could get an entire thread from just watching home alone! you could tie an iron to a string and attached it to a stick.... lol
hmz, I once killed one by imagining he was wearing a suit that had a needle on every milimeter, and it converged every second...
I hated him.
Ah a new way i discovered a few nights back you gotta shrink them im telling you once you do this the possibilities are engless you can smash them throw them up in the air and smash them throw thema against walls and smash them make a little army of mini DC's and have them fight yes i said make a mini DC army and have them fight its fun to watch. Let your imagination go and try whatever comes to mind.
you could cut horizontally across their stomach, then pull all their intestines out, then right before they bleed to death, behead them. no i didn't think this up you sick bastard. Actually, it's what the japanese do when they are shamed... well they don't do it anymore but they used to when they were samurai.
Anyway....
What i've always wanted to do... once i'm a better lucid dream anyway.... is to have a DC thats a loved one in real life already dead... or will them to death without guilt or something, so that you can see what it would be like without them around. then in reality, you'd have an overall greater appreciation of them, because you'd know how much you'd miss them if they were gone.
see i'm not totally evil :-P
Well, in my last one, I used my Dream control to seal them into a Nintendo DS, then I let Lyn, Pikachu, & Pichu kill them from there!
Wow thats crazy never would have thought of that.
I was in a food fight in a cafeteria where it quickly turned into a maming free for all. I grabbed a near by desk and hurled it at a DC, I think he died, I didn't check, I felt bad and went elsewhere.
So you intuitively know that you are advancing into Evil, but you go ahead anyway.Quote:
Originally posted by Raven
I know this seems kinda evil....but if you like....can you help compile a list of ways of killing DCs? Example: throwing them down the cliff.
:P
*I got a feeling some people will flare at me for this post*
We should compile a list of how to eradicate the world of Evil People.
First, give them all guns that will backfire.
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Originally posted by nesgirl119
but the bad thing is that my boss had the same dream at the same time, so I get in big trouble at work!
Sorry but this sounds like pure bullshit.
You know I once killed a DC by Blowing there heads up. It was this woman next to me, and I blew her (head) up just as an RC x) then I think I started flying around fans(as in the device not the people) and forget what I was doing... killing zombies or something.
There was a slightly cartoony, fat 'dungeon keeper' (like the bile demon in the game Dungeon Keeper).
I just looked at him and told him he was pathetic. And he exploded. lol
Interesting concept. I can almost picture a war fought with weaponry that backfires. The image I get is of the two forces drawn up in parallel lines facing each other and taunting each other in order to get them to fire their weapons.Quote:
Originally posted by Leo Volont
We should compile a list of how to eradicate the world of Evil People.
First, give them all guns that will backfire.
I am suprised nobody here has mentioned impaling them yet. :)
I guess I'm wierd. In one of the few lucid dreams I had where I wasn't so excited I woke up right away, I decided to try a couple of vile acts, just out of curiosity. I walked down the street to a neighbor's house, and when he answered the door, I just shot him. (The DC didn't have my neighbors image, btw) I then proceeded to rape a woman inside his house. I have to say, though, I got no satisfaction from the endeavor, and have decided not to pursue such experiments any longer. Don't get me wrong, I like a video game deathmatch as much as the next guy, but I think my creative energies can be used for far more constructive pusuits, and let's face it: Lucid dreaming is pure creativity. You guys are racking up some serious bad karma here. And don't say you don't belive in karma if you haven't actualy researched what it realy is, please. And thank you.
I've got a few from the top of my head (i would only do this to zombies or Satan or something...or my sister
Anyway, here it is:
Tell them: You look like you're going to dissappear in about...(Look at clock)
3 seconds.
3...2...1...Snap fingers.
Gone!
Heres a few more:
Turn their head into a speaker and put it on death metal on maxed volum so it explodes.
Pyrokinesis, simple, burn them.
Electrokinesis, mobile tazer, anyone?
Aerokinesis, dude!
Air is so useful, thousands of small rocks blowing through their feet, major damage.
Especially since you can do whatever you want...Mmm...Tornado...
Create a war of the worlds tripod and blast things with it.
Bore them to death by giving them a history lesson.(Works in real life too, wouldn't recommend.)
Scare to death by disguising yourself to a 500 feet demon with a freaky voice.
Force them to smile so much that they're lips...Start...Bleeding.
Any force powers you can get from the top of your mind, lightsabers work too.
Fists, feet, other hard items.
Take a grenade, and choke them with it. (Oranges work too, it was just an example.)
If they hate friendship, i.e. monsters and stuff, become friend with them so they disappear into thin air.
And lastly, wake up, not very good, since it wakes you up, but it's instant disappearance for all dc:s
I don't recommend to try any of these in real life, may get you in jail or worse.
I got a very disturbing fun way...
Rip there genitals off and then finish em off with a chainsaw
I got an awesome one. Shoot a stream of gasoline out of your hand into their mouth. Then, shoot a fire ball either down their mouth or at their stomach. :mrgreen:
Reach down their throat, grab the bottom of their insides, and pull it out so the DC turns inside out. That should be entertaining for a few minutes, 'til it dies...
Another good way would be to restrain them to something and find out how they react when you perform an autopsy while they are still alive.
Vivisection? Seems there were a lot of WW-II war criminals hung for that :DQuote:
Originally posted by Merck
Another good way would be to restrain them to something and find out how they react when you perform an autopsy while they are still alive.
what about this:
stealing their shoe... and then... stick it up in their
NOSE :evil:
A DC was goin a bit mad with a big fuck off gun, I put my hands on his back and willed some healing. He turned round very surprised, said, "mm I'll have to think about that". It was a very spontaneous moment in dream, really hightened the lucidity
Wow, all the violence. How about rubbing the belly like an alligator only instead of saying go to sleep. "Go to dead". lol
make their hands turn into razor blades and will them to fight each other.
Combo them Street Fighter style :P, or grab 'em from the feet then start spinning and throw them to a mine field then watch the flying bodies ....
Or grab a rocket launcher and BOOM!!!!
Holy Crap, I had a dream about this in particular. I was in the Mafia and we were talking about ways of doing people in. My idea was awesome-
You go up in a plane with the guy/guys (not more than two), and you and your buddy have parachutes. You push em out at the same time with a single parachute, then you and your bud jump out and watch em fight for it. If one of them actually manages to use it, you force them at gunpoint to decide:
1. Jump again with no chute
or
2. Get shot.
Evil, and sadistic- but man, the experience of jumping was awesome- it was so frigging real I still can't believe it.
Pick up one DC from the ankles and use him as a bat to kill another DC, two birds with one stone.
lol that's a good idea, just hope it isnt a shared dream at the time :wink:Quote:
Hm..how bout summoning someone you hate into your LD..and then.......do something violent violent...hm....you know that show 'Naruto\"? Ya......do something like....Chidori or some other ninjutsu...Lol. [/b]
I came up with a couple more ways....
The Impaler -
First design a Casket with hundreds of nails sticking out of it so that when you lay down in it, your actually laying on the pointed ends of the nails.
Next put nails in the lid so that they face you, so that as it closes, they impale you.
Finally, put it on some gears so that it SLOWLY closes, impaling the DC inch by inch.
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The Suicide -
Command a DC to kill him/her self, but tell them that it has to be in a way that will entertain you.
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Bone Stretcher -
Tie their hands above their head, and their feet to the ground.Slowly pull on the rope holding the hands (using an auto-mated gear would be more effeciant) until they rip in 2.
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I'll come up with more a little later if you would like....
I think you (the topic creator) should edit your first post to include the best ways mentioned so far lol.
Lmfao. I like that. 8)Quote:
The Suicide -
Command a DC to kill him/her self, but tell them that it has to be in a way that will entertain you.[/b]
This sure is a bit an agressive topic but for dream research of testing Dc's
I dived into them and absorbed them like Neo did in the first Matrix movie with Agent smith!
Then i found out a Dc is just an empty hull.
But absorbing them into yourself is possible in a ld!
You make them one with yourself then, only your ld body is left then!
First few times i didnt succeed had to give myself the suggestion i am liquid,
when i dived into them and integrated them into my ldbody!
you can also do that trick with walls or cars or whatever u meet in your ld!
Realize the truth..there is no spoon! ;)
Okay I'll Play
Push into volcano or cause an eruption and take out the town.
Eviscerate
stab with small neddels until they bleed to death
smack to death(but you'll have to make your hand more durable)
draw a quater
burn alive (to get rid of evidance first fill with fuel)
steamroller
automobile
teleport into space (if in space open hatch to out side)
strand naked in a blizzard
tie to tree in bear county covered in honey
throw off boat in middle of ocean
okay thats all for now I don't want to come across a to big a psychopath but I got a lot more I've thought of and used to "relive stress"
My personal favorite is sticking my hand into their head and ripping their brains out and throwing them at other DC's.
I thought up a couple more ways:
Get a dream character to start juggeling chainsaws, and then using your superb dream control powers, make the dream character's arms suddenly freeze so that they can't catch the chainsaws, making them impale the characters through the chest.
My next way would be to force a dream character to keep eating and eating without stopping till their stomach exploaded out.
It's only a waaafer thin!Quote:
Originally posted by Kastro187420
My next way would be to force a dream character to keep eating and eating without stopping till their stomach exploaded out.
Guns....Lots of guns.
Strangle them with sausages.
Maybe teach a DC to fly and weild a shotgun so that he gets to kill many for you, then if you have time rally a mob and get them to kill him or some other crazy situations that can result,
Okay here is another idea. Get one DC and tie him/her down laying on his/her back. Then, take a few more DCs and sever a main artery and find a way to basically drown the restrained DC with the spraying blood of the other DCs. That's why multiple DCs might be needed. And if that doesn't work then bake some chocolate cupcakes and hang out with the surviving DC and tell them how cool they are for surviving.
Then shoot them.
haha nice merck.
Tie a DC to some railroad tracks, but on a cape and top hat, and laugh maniacally until they get run over by a train. If someone comes to save the DC, just tie them up too.
Hehe. Gotta one-up that one:Quote:
Tie a DC to some railroad tracks, but on a cape and top hat, and laugh maniacally until they get run over by a train. If someone comes to save the DC, just tie them up too.[/b]
Tie a DC to some railroad tracks, put on a cape and watch the DC scream in horror as the train gets nearer. Then, as the train comes within about 50 yards, jump in front of the train all Superman and let it smash into your waiting hands, using your super LD strength to sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide backward with the train's momentum and come to a screeching and heroic stop inches away from the terrified DC. Then, after waiting patiently to hear the DC blanket you with praise and gratitude, reach down, pick up the entire train, and drop it on the sum'bitch. :evil:
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Originally posted by Oneironaut
Hehe. Gotta one-up that one:Quote:
Tie a DC to some railroad tracks, but on a cape and top hat, and laugh maniacally until they get run over by a train. If someone comes to save the DC, just tie them up too.
Tie a DC to some railroad tracks, put on a cape and watch the DC scream in horror as the train gets nearer. Then, as the train comes within about 50 yards, jump in front of the train all Superman and let it smash into your waiting hands, using your super LD strength to sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide backward with the train's momentum and come to a screeching and heroic stop inches away from the terrified DC. Then, after waiting patiently to hear the DC blanket you with praise and gratitude, reach down, pick up the entire train, and drop it on the sum'bitch. :evil:[/b]
You could do what Oneironaut said but instead of stopping just in time for the DC to survive, you could actually just slow the train down so that the DC will have to watch in horror as the train sloooooooowly inches closer and closer and then sloooooooowly runs over the DC.
Yea this just keeps getting more and more sadistic.
Yeah....but that was just a little too sadistic for my tastes. Lol.
Boom. Drop da train. No muss. No fuss. Except for the splatter fragments. Nothin a little Clorox won't get out though. 8)
And then use your LD powers to reverse time making sure that the DC remembers all the details just to let it happen again so this time they will know how much its gonna hurt and will be antisapating it.Quote:
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You could do what Oneironaut said but instead of stopping just in time for the DC to survive, you could actually just slow the train down so that the DC will have to watch in horror as the train sloooooooowly inches closer and closer and then sloooooooowly runs over the DC. *
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LMFAO....damn.....
....I think I'm going to have to start the DC Protection Program after a thread like this. LOL
That means you would have to enter the minds of all us psyco's on a DC killing spree. :? Not a good Idea we might think you're just a DC :shock: :wink:Quote:
I think I'm going to have to start the DC Protection Program after a thread like this.[/b]
the way my non-lucid dreams go, the dcs would probably end up dying a few minutes later anyway.
Heh.....You've never seen my hyper-badass-uber-dream-fighting-skillz..Quote:
That means you would have to enter the minds of all us psyco's on a DC killing spree. Confused Not a good Idea we might think you're just a DC Shocked Wink[/b]
"IS THERE NO ONE ELSE???!!?!?!" :evil: - Maximus Decimus Beridius
Umm Ditto :roll: :wink: I really like to take out DC's by being a "Reaver" like in "Firefly" and "Serenity" after all who's better at killing than a psycotic person with no fear of death or concequence.Quote:
Heh.....You've never seen my hyper-badass-uber-dream-fighting-skillz.. *
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I admit that I'm somewhat flybergasted to read what I have just read in this thread. I mean, it's one thing to want to have someone disappear because they cause you incomfort in some ways, and quite another thing to want to kill them in a violent way, or enjoy making them suffer.
I'm not saying that it's wrong or that those doing it are killing a part of "themselves"... I'm just observing that a massive amount of people here just shared their "favourite" way to kill people, a way in which they appear to take pleasure in killing someone...
I dunno, maybe it's just me but that doesn't sound quite... "normal", if I dare using that term. I mean, if one is an advanced dreamer and can summon a big gun and kill everyone, it should not be a challenge to get to the point where you just snap your fingers and see them disappear. I dunno, I'm not moralizing, I'm just thinking aloud and wondering how did this come about? Is it the "unharmful" effect of the violence on TV? Or the "video game" culture that is transferring in the dreamworld? I dunno, but I must say that it worries me somehow.
But then again it depends of one's age as well. If one is 16-20 years old and intensely into videogames and it's just a cool way to have their own videogame in their head once in a while, I guess it's not too bad. But if everyone in the thread were 30 - 70 years old people, I would find that quite disturbing. But maybe it's just me... :wink: but when people gather and enjoy sharing creative ways to kill people...., you know........it just doesn't sound like a very healthy behavior.
On that matter, I would really be intereste to know what is the average age of the people hanging out here. Does anyone know?
Also, has anyone ever tried to confront their "bad" DC instead of killing them? I had an experience with it a while ago after reading Laberge on it :
"I was outside and all the colors were very bright. It was my 3rd lucid dream and I was amazed and the richness of the colors and people were walking around. There was a guy that looked around 30 years old from a distance and he seemed to have a nice smile on his face. So I walk toward him and as he comes closer, he becomes uglier and uglier, turning into some kind of Frankenstein, he was right in front of me and I was scared. He seemed to be really mean, and the scarier I was, the taller he was getting. At that point i remembered Laberge and shouted at the guy : Who are you?
And then he stopped getting taller. he didn't answer but as I was looking at him closely, waiting for his reply, I could see in his eyes that he was actually terribly unconfortable, very shy, he started mumbling and looked somewhat ashamed.. Noticing this then changed my whole perception, and accordingly he started getting smaller again..I wanted to ask him the question again but then I lost "it" and woke up.
Has anyone ever tried to confront the "threatening" DCs in their dreams and had an insightful or just interesting experience? Maybe that could be another dream task for the advanced dreamers? :D
For those interested in it, here's what Laberge says about it:
Excerpt from "Exploring the world of Lucid Dreaming", p.238
To have a good dream dialogue, you must treat the dream figure as being your equal, as in the example.The following questions may open up fruitful lines of dialogue with dream figures:
"Who are you?"
"Who am I?"
"Why are you here?"
"Why are you acting the way you are?"
"What do you have to tell me?"
"Why is such-and-such happening in this dream?"
"What do you think or feel about such and such?"
"What do you want from me? What do you want me to do?"
"What questions would you ask of me?"
"Can you help me?"
"Can I help you?"
If anyone has tried to do something like this before, I would be greatly interested to hear your results!
John
I can only speak for myself, but I think you may be taking it a little to personally.
Its not like I go around killing every DC I see, or I just go around maiming people for the sake of maiming them. I'm not even sure if my kind of dream violence is meant to be included in your post, but I see many of my dreams on the same level of entertainment as movies. There are the serious, deeply hear-felt ones, which I'll pay attention to...and then there are the action flicks, and all those in between. Dream content is, to many, not normal behavior. Many absurd and obscene things happen in dreams, violence is no different. I don't think someone's imaginary violence is an indication of "normal behavior" as long as that person is mentally capable of dividing waking reality and fiction.
By the way, I'm 23.
LMAO O!Quote:
Originally posted by Oneironaut
Boom. Drop da train. No muss. No fuss.
I can see what you mean Oneironaut. I personally was just struck by the fact that this was a thread whose purpose was to find "creative" ways of killing DCs. For some reasons, it kinda sounded "weird" to my "ears". :-)Quote:
Originally posted by Oneironaut
I can only speak for myself, but I think you may be taking it a little to personally.
Its not like I go around killing every DC I see, or I just go around maiming people for the sake of maiming them. I'm not even sure if my kind of dream violence is meant to be included in your post, but I see many of my dreams on the same level of entertainment as movies. There are the serious, deeply hear-felt ones, which I'll pay attention to...and then there are the action flicks, and all those in between. Dream content is, to many, not normal behavior. Many absurd and obscene things happen in dreams, violence is no different. I don't think someone's imaginary violence is an indication of \"normal behavior\" as long as that person is mentally capable of dividing waking reality and fiction.
By the way, I'm 23.
For me, it's one thing that obscene, weird and sometimes violent stuff will spontaneously happen in our dreams, and it's quite another to consciously desire, or anticipate to apply violence in our dreams. In that case, it could be reasonable to say that one would need to have a fair amount of agressivity to actually need to "act it out" in his or her dreams. On the other hand, it could also be healthy if that helps the person to release aggressivity in a dream instead of letting it out in waking life.
So anyway, as I said, I didn't want to put a judgment as to if it was "right" or "wrong" to do it, I was simply stunned by the thread title and at the considerable amount of people who actually shared their "favorite" ways of killing. :wink:
I use it to release agression at time's. I'm one of those people with a quick temper and I Always got into trouble for it as a kid so I started shifting it to dreams or senarios in my head while awake. As a kid it was the only way I could come up with to control my temper, Now as an adult of 28 years old, I have better ways of dealing with it, but sometimes you have a Really Bad Day and have to find a way to vent. I am quite happy that I have the controll needed to vent in my mind rather than on a live person in the "real world."Quote:
it could also be healthy if that helps the person to release aggressivity in a dream instead of letting it out in waking life.
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I don't see the whole killing yourself by killing DC's thing as being true myself , because in my mind there is no such thing as death, just a change of state, its kind of like video game logic (there's a bad guy, bang he's dead, hit the restart button, and he's back never knowing he died). In the relm of the mind nothing is gone forever, It's just waiting for you to hit the restart button. IMO
Just throw them out a window. Outta sight, outta mind.
If you're outside, manifest a lake beneath their feet. Works great for large groups.
good use of the word "aggressivity" by the way!
I use video games to get rid of aggression. However, this causes me to dream about playing/being in video games and so wholesale slaughter is not uncommon in my dreams no matter how peaceful I've been for the past 2 years. I've been to hell a couple times in dreams, and it was actually pretty fun.
I like to "Decompose" them, a la Scar from Fullmetal Alchemist...
...They go Boom! And you don't have to worry about cleaning up the mess...
Perhaps good ol' execution style would work also...
Also, that Scar dude from FMA has a cool way of killing people/things, wish I could do what he does.
[quote]LOL! Nice, and creative too.Quote:
And then use your LD powers to reverse time making sure that the DC remembers all the details just to let it happen again so this time they will know how much its gonna hurt and will be antisapating it.
Then Repeat
I think it would be funny to throw a DC off of a really high building, and watch them scream and scream, and then when they crap themselves, catch them with your 'powers' about 2 feet from the ground and let them land gently so they live....
I once pretended to be a door-to-door vinyl siding salesman.
Death by annoyance!
Do you think that killing DC for fun will increase violence in the real world just like video games?
Twist their neck. Crackkkkkkkk.
Another possibility is to grab their legs and swing them around, hitting stuff with their head until they bleed to death.
Oh and I recently killed a DC by grabbing their head and squeezing until their cranium caves inwards. I know it sounds sick, but trust me, that DC was VERY evil and deserved it. Besides, there wasn't much graphic detail in my dream (almost no blood, no eyes popping out of their sockets the way that should've been etc)
Try accessing their brains, making them think they're chickens, and laughing as you walk away. It's as good as killing but nowhere near as messy.
Since video games are actually reducing violence rather than increasing them unlike what some bullshit political figures claim, I believe not.Quote:
Originally posted by curious_dreamer
Do you think that killing DC for fun will increase violence in the real world just like video games?
Huh? I didn't realize anyone had actually studied that... I wouldn't think they'd do a thing to violence, except possibly that people who are inclined towards playing video games are the sort of deliberate, (and, okay, geeky) people who are not inclined towards violence...
You can make statistics say anything... Me, I tend to say "No correlation" and leave it at that.
Hmm killing DCs....well instead of killing them I would just throw one of those holes at them like in cartoons and then they would fall for eternity 8)
pee acid on them
I hope to meet in my LDs people to love, not to kill.
The optimism of a newbie... :oops:
eXistenZ
Naw, 's okay. I rarely find reasons to kill LD's in my lucid dreams. The most violent thing I've ever done to one is to shrink them and put them in a drawer... After all, if you're lucid, you can just make 'em go "poof" or turn them docile or, heck, turn them into rocks, so you don't have to deal with them. You only kill people in LD's if you want to.
(No guarantee, though, if the rocks start talking to you.)
Though I suppose it could be really satisfying to kill the axe-murderer from your recurring nightmare...
If you really must, then go the old fashion way. Prepare to taste steel you vile cur! Have at you!
poop in their mouth :D
OR
Use a computer mouse as some kind of swinging mace... BUT IT HAS SPIKES! BWAHHAHAHAHA
For anyone who knows Trigun I'd use my Angel Arm to blow them away. Or I'd do a FF type summon, Bahamut all the way. Maybe I'd use some kind of high-tech laser device, Or turn into something big and pwn them that way.
I'm pretty good at charging up energy and whatnot, which is always fun. One of these days, if I ever remember, I'm just going to go Super Saiya-Jin 2 and maul the shit out of one of them. :evil:
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To start off........Hell of a Topic. ;)
I have this History teacher...I hate her guts. So...next time I get lucid, When I see her ( No "If" Ill summon her fat ass...Pardon the language. :) ) Iwas thinking of just holding my hand out towards her, Like Iw as about to shoot some blast.....And then...DO like on the martix. Have the air and Reality bend around her...Then...BOOOOMMMMM!!!!!!
Big bloody, gorey, deathly Explosion!!!
It depends on the situation. I've had plenty of martial arts fights in my dreams, and gun fights. I once left them all to die in some kind of apocolipse while I escaped :D
You could piss gasoline over them and set them on fire.
tell them your a dentist and put your finger in their mouth, then begin to make your finger swell up until their head explodes/ their jaw rips off :eek:
Well, I'm officially a DC murderer (during a Lucid... normal dreams have lots of killings in 'em... Apparently LDs have decreased inhibitions as well, as it's something I wouldn't do in waking life).
I picked up a rock and threw it at a car, willed it to explode like a grenade. Bits of car and DC everywhere.
I also decided to affect fate to kill another DC; he lost control of his bike and ran into a bunch of spikes. Shish-kebab... Heh.
I have yet to have a good fight in a lucid, though. I'm pretty shaky when it comes to movement in general; Matrix-style martial arts would probably be beyond me. It's when I have non-lucid dreams, and I don't have trouble believing I can do something, that the really violent fights come out. And let me tell you... exploding zombies are gross.
Tickle them to death :lol: Or just an old-fashioned Deagle :D
The good ole' fistfight. One can punch pretty hard in an LD
Last night I had an LD where I was in a resteraunt and all the waiters were these big buff guys, and one of them was being a jerk to me. He had a guitar for whatever reason, and I picked it up and started poking him with it. He said somthing like "Ohhh oh no you're hurting me," and started laughing. So then I took the neck of the guitar and stabbed it through his heart and walked of smiling. :P
LOL. Nice. :cooler:Quote:
Originally posted by Master_ziing
Last night I had an LD where I was in a resteraunt and there all the waiters were these big buff guys, and one of them was being a jerk to me. He had a guitar for whatever reason, and I picked it up and started poking him with it. He said somthing like "Ohhh oh no you're hurting me," and started laughing. So then I took the neck of the guitar and stabbed it through his heart and walked of smiling. :P
Hey all, i'm new to the site!
anyway just wanted to say my all time favourite is killing DCs with a lightsabre,
due to the frequent malfuncation of fire arms in my dreams, i usually revert to melee weapons.
But I usually have to remind myself that a lightsabre can work since i'm in a dream.
There was a time when I tried to slash someone with it and it did nothing, and he looked at me really angry :oops:
I kicked the *Rudey nudey word* outta some friggin zombies the other night with my bare fists :D i got a bit carried away and started hitting some strange guy with grey hair :(
This topic caught my eye in a weird WTF way. Such evil people we have here :shakehead2: . You are all going to hell for this. LOL j/k. I'm assuming by a Dream Character, we are talking about anybody who appears in our dreams? I killed a villian from a show by spraying poison in her mouth.
Shove a bomb down their throat. :mrgreen:
the worst I ever did was squirt an ex boss (that I hated) with a hose then raped him
don't know if I'd ever use an LD for killing, unless there was a super bad guy chasing me
then again I'd probably just conjure up some dream shackles and have my way with him too (actually I think I had a Michael Myers dream like that once... << I checks journal >>)
How about...
Take out the DC's eyeballs and command them to walk 100 paces away from you. Then, throw them at the DC's willing the eyeballs to explode on contact.
Wow...very inventive ways all of 86'ing DCs... :shock:. Here is but a sample of my favorite DC slaying techniques...
I have long ago known I was Telekinetic during my LD's...rather like the Star Wars chararters use the Force to move objects. Once not long ago, I met a DC that tried to impersonate me. Well, I just used my telekinetic powers to rip the top third of a mountain off and hurled it at him. No more imposter!
I have also been able to summon lightning from the clouds for years as well, ala Rayden. Veeerrryyy effective - for offense as well as defense. A pesky DC will usually back down faced with nature's fireworks bearing down on them!!! I don't always strike them directly...sometimes just knocking them off their feet with a near-miss is enough to send them scurrying. Tornadoes are quite fun, as well!
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In most of my dreams I kill them with my hands - mostly through strangling, or taking a grip around their throat and crush it until the head falls off. Punching rarely works for me, as I mostly have no room for my arms, because I don't prefer lying on the back.
I also kill them with melee weapons - axes, stones, knifes etc. On rare occasions I'm using firearms, which I'm shooting them in the head with.
OMG :shock:Quote:
Originally posted by King and God
In most of my dreams I kill them with my hands - mostly through strangling, or taking a grip around their throat and crush it until the head falls off. Punching rarely works for me, as I mostly have no room for my arms, because I don't prefer lying on the back.
I also kill them with melee weapons - axes, stones, knifes etc. On rare occasions I'm using firearms, which I'm shooting them in the head with.
Hum.... how about doing that matrix thing that agent smith does..... you strike with your hand and then from it liquid silver cover's all of the DC's body, when it's gone the DC iss now a copy of you.... then you could kiss him eheheh ;) lol
KICK EM IN THE NUTS!!!!!!!! REALLY HARD!!!!!!!!:wink:
What happens to them if you do that? Explode?Quote:
Originally posted by Gez
KICK EM IN THE NUTS!!!!!!!! REALLY HARD!!!!!!!!:wink:
OWCH! :shock:Quote:
Originally posted by Placebo
What happens to them if you do that? Explode?
I got a cramp just SEEING that response!
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Use Bankai from Bleach anime . Ha Ha, that will defenetly destroy them.:evil:
I have found a new one...ala Anakin vs. Sandpeople...
damn...a lucid light saberQuote:
Originally posted by Charybdus
I have found a new one...ala Anakin vs. Sandpeople...
now that would be cool
eat them alive...
haha heres an idea tell a fat person in your dream to eat the DC and watch with joy as your DC gets eatened by a cannibal! :D :lol: :D
i was being attacked by a mob of some freaky monsters...
have any of you seen the movie The Mask,the part where he whips out the massive set of guns(rocket launches pistols flame throwers etc),but when he shoots it,litlte "Bang" flags pop out....
well in my dream i was like man this isnt fun,so i whip out a set of guns like that,and all the monsters just kind of give me that "Oh Shit" look and explode....i didnt even have to shoot.it was weird
but as for killing actual people in my dreams...hmmmm
i had a massive sling shot that iw ould load people in to and launch them at some far off target...that was interesting to watch
Ok...in my 2nd out of my 3 ld's i killed a guy after he tried tonrun me over...suddenly the whole city was against me....so, what i did was fly hig up in the air so i could see the city not from birdseye but from a 45 degree angle...i then fired a few small meteorites which did minor damage (it was a huge metropolis certainly something you will never see in the next 250 years) I did a sort of remote view on what seemed to be a highway...everyone was getting out their cars and looking up at me knowing the damage i was doing...all the children were crying...i nearly changed my mind from seeing the chaos going on down there. When i had this dream i had been playing final fantasy X, so i did a summoning move where you create a huge fireball, but i made a huge meteor and i mean huge. I could hear the entire city scream with fear and i sculpted my face with a cloud and said "tough sh*t". With that I just lunged the meteor at the city which made a nuclear bomb sort mushroom cloud... i quickly went back down to watch the destruction as people ran away from the heat and fire and clouds of dust etc and i just stood there gazing and if you seen war of the worlds by steven speilberg it looked just like that, as soon as someone was hit by this heat blaze sorta thing they you heard a sort of terror scream but not really a scream. I won't do it again though (i'll just concoct a new way ;) )
Ok here's another one ! Kick them so hard in the stomach the force make them implode in on themselves! No mess but be sure to get a safe distance away, could cause a black hole :P
Okay I got one. You can throw them down a volcano then after that throw a handful of grenades causing the volcano to erupt.
Sometimes when I need or want to fight, kill, or frighten a DC, I become a viscous demon. Sometimes I become so evil that I actually scare myself in the process. I will raise up, turn extremely evil looking, and scream at the DC. I then approach and tear apart the DC with supernatural force.
I almost wonder if I am inviting real demons into my dream. It really is very scary.
I even feel like what I think it would to be evil, it really wierd.
the next time I want to kill a DC, I'm going to become a Balrog and stomp on them
I'm amazed this has gone on for 10 pages now! Lotta sick puppies around here.
Anyone use the "Stick an air hose up his butt and inflate until he explodes" method yet?
yes I did that last night and I want my wings nowQuote:
Originally posted by Seeker
"Stick an air hose up his butt and inflate until he explodes" method yet?
Put on pad that increases gravity, turn it up until they flatten
I just want to beat the crap out of one of them then shoot them like 4times in the stomach, Also...a kid in my town at a party got his stomached sliced open in a fight and his spleen fellout. (I wasnt at that one thank god) But yeah i know it sounds really sick lol but in a dream i dont think i would mind doing that :-D
I'm amazed too. :shock:Quote:
I'm amazed this has gone on for 10 pages now! Lotta sick puppies around here. [/b]
This proves that everyone posseses the desire to kill :P
KEEP 'DEM COMIN, BABY!!
turn the DC into a bomb, walk to a safe distance from it, and blow it up
that or throw him/her into the pit of hell and watch them burn alive in fire and sulfur
Come on now, your not being Creative enough, anyone can come up with stuff like that... How about this:
Firstly, I would Collapse the Sun into a Black Hole. Next, I would plunge the world into a world without power, and without a sun, there would be no light, so no one could see the black hole thats about to rip them apart.
Afterwards, Since im god in my dreams and all and can't die, I would stay on earth as it was being pulled into the black hole, and everything on it being pulled apart little by little, and using my God-like powers, I would keep everyone alive so they could feel it happen up until I woke up.
Wow what a topic!
How about the Water Torture, and actually have it work?
The Darth Vader Choke
im glad this topic has been resurrected i really feel like taking some anger out on DC's
that guys never had a lucid dream before heehee i can tell :) lets be freinds thou, ill help u out.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamPro
also lighting them on fire is a timeless way example of DC killing, and never fails to please. it doesnt have to be creative it just has to be damn fun. there are tons of ways to do it to. but even better then using finger-fire to set them immeadiately ablaze is to point at a spot on their clothing, and set that on fire, and watch them try to blow it out as the flames grow and grow... tee-hee, tee-hee!Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamPro
haha awesome.
how about create a large line of steamrollers and slowly move them in on a DC. now its their choice: jump off the cliff or be run over by a steamroller!
Oh..I will try this in my next LD.
I'll begin the dream,holding a guitar,preferably a Les Paul.
I'll then instantly begin the shred,numerous large bolts of blue lightening will fly from the headstock of the guitar,either blowing the DC up,or completely frying his body and organs!
Man,and I constantly wonder why my Karma is so horrible...
Eligos :bump:
Hehehe...
Okay, I have this thing with my hands...anyway here's a list:
*Shoot nails out of your index finger at the DC's feet so they get stuck in the ground (twice, bang-bang). Next, grab the DC by the hair or neck and run over a long distance to stretch them! Maybe bend them around a pole or something on your way, or past a train station.
*Freeze time completely, and then rearrange their body and limbs (or face), so when you start time again, they'll be...shocked, to say the least!
*Electricute them by pointing at them; turn your hand clockwise to increase the intensity (visa-versa).
*Melt/burn them from the heat of your hands...you can maybe paint a picture out of them!
Put a DC on a giant fishing pole, and catch a shark. :)
Go-Ghost and get into their body and make it shoot itself.
Lol, just erase their head and watch them run into things?Quote:
Originally Posted by dreamtamer007
Or, just their arms and tell them to catch.
:evil:
I just saw Jackass 2 (great BTW) and in it they actually did this. Just came out today. :shock:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrox
Lol, this topic reveals our true nature :evil:
i remember one of my firsts LD, i was in a roof of a building and i saw some kids with their bikes down in the street. I jumped off, and took a bicile and start hitting the little kids with it... when i woke up i didn´t know why i did it. :?
(if i wrote something wrong, it´s because im from chile XD)
Make them laugh themselves to death :D
Or infact, dont kill them atall, just give them a huge hug :) THEN STAB THEM! :evil: if you want :roll:
I'd throw a penny off of the Empire State building and hit them in the head... I know its clichéd, but I still like it.
Throw a piano off! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Rage
Haha yeah, that would be funny as hell.Quote:
Originally Posted by really
I got another one. And yes,it involves a musical instrument...
You have a massive drum set,in the middle of the road. Start mashing your drums,almost like my shredding Les Paul post...
Every time you hit the bass drum,with the bass pedal,a large shockwave shoots from the drum.
Maybe you could have DOUBLE bass,just to cause more damage...
Eligos :bump:
I used to be an expert at dream killing. I took major pride in it hey because I was learning martial arts around the same time I was getting good at lucid dreaming. So because I was training so much I was dreaming of badies alot and I actually used the dreams to kinda practise wasting them. So for my first years I was using my fists and the odd sword or whatever.. One of my first kills I remember was a friend.. I slit his throat with a big kitchen knife because I found myself lucid walking next to him just holding this knife. So I sidestepped and just slit his throat, and oh man did he bleed. Blood went everywhere hey and he had this most horrible look on his face. It was a mixture of fear and anger and dying. It was horrible. lol I told him the next day what I had done and he wasnt very happy hey. He gave me a weird look again!, but not the same one. :D
Then I learned to shapeshift and I got like extra super powers in dream killing. Like when I shapeshifted into a werewolf I grew for starters and was just stronger.. its like you really take on the role and your mind just flows with it. After that I really got into dream killing heaps because it was really good fun and such a rush. Mainly because the shifting part was fun but it was more fun to see everyone run from you after the shift in public. So for awhile I killed anyone really because I was like the beast and generally I would sink my teeth into the neck and almost bite half of it away in one bite.
Sometimes when I was younger too I would also shift into the vampire to try out vampire style fighting moves. I always went for the neck again but usually I would take them from the sky. I even dreamt once I went on a lucid hunt with a flock of vampires and we all took to the sky together. So it was a more social hunt or something. But yeah my most favorite move of all so far has been heart rip that I did when I was a vampire once. That was amazing hey, you really should try it because its just so full on. I put my fingers together so my hand slid through the chest easy, I opened my fingers(claws)and just gripped the heart and pulled it out. Easy! And the best part was that the DC looked sooooo freaked out. And I dont think I've ever dreamed of anyone trying to break into my house again either.. Did it served as a warning to others? :D
But yeah that was when I was younger and was a.. standing creature, and after I learned to run and to fully shift into a normal wolf I didnt have the want to fight anymore, and I began to do other things as a wolf but mainly running. And now I mainly walk as a lion and dont ever think about killing DC's.. I seem to laugh with them now kinda. Except for the soldier that I death rolled as a crocodile and the swimmers legs who I got stuck in my teeth after I shifted into a great white shark. lol
Anyway... The vampire heart rip is my favorite.
merge with them
Is it just me, or is this thread just a bit sick?
its just you...
it's the thread
anyway, i never did and never will be. i don't even kill characters when i write! (oh well, just a pair maybe, but never completely).
i like fighting in LDs though, but i'm a complete failure at it :content:
but it's just because i don't see a reason, not for i think it immoral or so.
I dont think id ever kill an innocent person in my dreams, maybe injure them or knock them out but i woudnt kill them unless they were major annoying or plain evil.
It's just another experience to experience imo and it makes you stronger. Death is apart of life and to know both is to know both. Also I dont ever have nightmares really because theres nothing I'm afraid of. I killed them all or became them. Which is not a bad thing hey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneiro
Like the only other thing that was giving me nightmares was somtimes not long ago I would dream of a shark trying to get me. Last time he rubbed his nose against my side as I was getting out of the water. Which was a scary non lucid dream. Now since that dream I went lucid and shifted into a Great white shark and I became what I feared. And its like I just feel like I'm not as afraid of the water anymore in dreams you know. And 'sharks' at the time have a shark like mind.. it just seems to be apart of it. You must try it to understand it.
DC killing is about killing off fears. Thats why I cut the head off the werewolf that had been after me in dreams(that was a DC too yeah?) It wouldve been unnatural to not kill it regarding the setup of the dream.. it was meant to be killed anotherwords.. it was time. And then after taking and using its form... is it natural to go around kissing DC's? Imo that is not what the dreams were telling me.. they gave me a beast to teach me to shapeshift which is teaching me to tame 'my animal' in the end, which is a great thing.
:)
When I get good at lucid dreaming I want to go on a killing spree with Fonzi in a giant dream city.
I'm not a sick person though. If in the future I learned that DCs were actually people sleeping and by killing them I actually kill the real person, I would feel like shit. I don't want to harm real people in any way but since DCs (probably) aren't real people I will go ahead and kill any that annoy me (after I lucid dream that is).
I do see how someone that is mentally unstable could develop into a psychopath from killing DCs. I trust myself not to become crazy and kill actual people. Although, crazy people don't think that they're crazy. They think they are perfectly sane. It's the rest of the world that's crazy.
I agree with italianmonkey.Quote:
Originally Posted by italianmonkey
I NEVER even HURT another DC in my non-lucids. I'm not ,by nature, a violent person, though I am certainly confrontational and argumentative. But, I never lose my temper.
However, when I write, I kill characters mercilessly. Plot reasons.
That said, I would not be against killing DCs in a lucid, just for an "experiment". but, I do not believe I would derive any pleasure from it. Fascination, perhaps, but no pleasure.
shame on you! When I write I try to keep my children alive! Some of the bast*** DO diserve to die, but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by The
If the DC was an Enemy from my waking world I'd probably go Kamikaze. Even if I have to kill me to kill him.
I hope this has not been said before (I did not read the 12 pages, sorry if it has)
Make a DC kill themself using any method you like. (if you can control DCs) :content:
play such an incredible guitar solo that their heads explode
Go on an airplane and throw people out the window.
two words: Agent Smith
One word: Neo
... Okay, you win
I'm amazed no-one has said this
...
oh well
BOOM! Head shot!
Said what? Agent Smithy? Yeah, me too.
You could have death grip that when you touch he person the flesh starts to rot away
cut them in half with a laser
Throw empty beer bottles at them. :D (aww god :roll: )
Feed them to a tiger
Wood chipper.
Make Kryll attack them
Slap them very hard.
Make them drink gasoline and then eat a lit match
In my previous lucid dream I froze people. I didn't kill them its almost as if i made time stop for them. I froze a crowd of people and walked through the crowd.
So im thinking... you could freeze them like this and then do whatever you like. Unhinge their arms and legs and sit them in a pile... stuff like that.
shot in head, stab with a small knife/blade, dramatic fight scene (final fantasy advent children style)
make them eat until they explode
Burn them to death with a pyrofan.
Stone them to death
I turn into Freddy Krueger msut of the time when I get the chance. Must of the time I will just have the claws and not kill anyone. I just use it as a forum of protection. So if any freakish DCs come along. *trust me alot do* I would turn Freddy like on them and tell them there in my dream land and do all the Freddy stuff I can. :) I like doing the old "skin the cat" with some freaks. ;) I haven't mastered LD dreaming or dream control. But in the progres I want to find my dream guide and all..I hope I don't scare he/she. ;) If going into other dreams is possible. I can give people nightmares! =D THis will be so much fun lol. But for now, I just freak out DCS lol
cut their head off.
^ could you be any MORE imaginative :D
well i guess it depends how you do it.
Cut their head off by throwing an AOL cd at them
rofl....Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrofan1
I would prefer the use of the katana.
Crush them with a mac G5