I'm not sure what time it will be PercyLucid. Please tell me, thank you.
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I'm not sure what time it will be PercyLucid. Please tell me, thank you.
And the time is fixed? I have a music class at 6.45. yikes.
Is there anyway that I could record the session PercyLucid?
Yeah. The sessions will be recorded :)
The chat logs will be uploaded weekly.
Ok great thank you.
Ok. So I probably won't be be attending the lectures but hello everybody. I'm Mediabat and I've been visiting Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource - Home for years now. But have only ever had one LD. I look forward to the lessons very much and would like to thank DV and PercyLucid for the coming lectures/ logs. Look forward to meeting fellow classmates also :)
Hi Percy
Is it ok if i miss the lectures because it is hard for me to make them at those times?
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Uhm, posted in the wrong place hah! But like I said to you on chat, I won't make it the first time, I will start working soon and I really hope I can make your classes anyways...
Hey I'm kunfu. :D
I'm really looking forward to these classes I've been working on MILD's for about a year now,and only succeeded once or twice. :P
Where can I find the chat where the classes will be?
Hey guys, I'm Andromeda. I've been on the forums for about 5 days now and I've been working pretty hard to get Lucid. I hope that this will greatly enhance my abilities.
Hello! Im Limitless, i am almost always in DV chat. I've been on dream views for about a month, and in this month i have been trying to have a LD with no success. Im really looking forward to learning about MILD and meeting new people is always a plus!
Hello. I'm Spectrum; I've been here for about a month and a half now, but I've only focussed so far on DILD/WBTB. I've managed to have 3 lucid dreams since joining, but they were all cut short by my lack of focus. I've been looking forward to this class since i signed up :)
Edit: Where's the sub-forum? I can't seem to find it...
Edit: Never mind; I found it.
Wassup, Jesse here, looking forward to do the best that i can, ill try hard to assist to all the lectures and complete the tasks. i been trying to lucid dream since a month now, and i've had about 3 lucids, in which i was able to telekinetic and super strength and fly. improveeeeeeeeee!!!!
Hello everybody! My name is Alsroge, and I started my lucid dreaming quest a while ago, but gave it up for whatever reason. I'm found the joys of LDing again, though, and am very excited to be in the MILD class. I was waiting for the supposed "Chat/Introductions Thread" to post, but it looks like this thread will cover that also. Haha. Look forward to seeing you all!
Let's chit-chat here about the topic! :panic:
Haha. I was wondering where this darn topic was. ;) I actually see a few familiar faces here, which is always refreshing! I hope to meet every one of you guys.
On the time, it says GMT -7. That's mountain time or pacific? Just want to make sure since I live in Central time zone.
Hmm.. i know im GMT-5(in ontario), so i will be waiting in chat at 8pm my time.. But.. i will be there all day, probably.
I'm pretty sure that's Pacific. Eastern is -4, and Pacific is -7.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheKing
On the time, it says GMT -7. That's mountain time or pacific? Just want to make sure since I live in Central time zone.
:S that sounds right lol..
Hey everyone! I haven't been on DV for very long but I have been studying LDs for about 6-7 months now and have had 4 dreams that I can honestly say I was completely lucid in and can recall completely. Can't wait to start this class on wednesday and improve my MILD technique. Here's a glass raised to getting to chat with everyone soon!:cheers:
Cheers!
-ARTicle86
I need to announce that I might be a little late to the class. Expect me around 06:15 PM PST.
I do not want to postpone the class, but I have something important to do. I will try to get as close as 06:00 PM as possible.
I don't think I'll ever be able to attend the classes as I live in Australia GMT+10. All the classes happen at around 11:00 in the school day for me :(
I'm not sure I can trust myself to wake up to an alarm at the moment, since i keep sleeping through them recently. I think for the first class I'll stay up just to make sure I don't miss it.
Is this where the mild classes will be or will it be in a different thread
Is the class already over or not? I was kinda confused on the time zones, if it hasn't started yet then I know I'm good. If I did miss it I am very sorry.
No you did not miss it it should be starting in 30 minutes pacific standard time if you were wondering
Thanks, I thought so but I was pretty confused. Thanks again!
Your welcome have you had any lucid yet I haven't but I have come close with some false awakenings I hate those :D
Haha I've had a few but I've been going through a dry spell. By the way the classes are held in the chatroom, just look at the top of the page where it says chat. Once you sign in just type /join #MILD-1 mirrors. Then you'll be in the room.
Oh ok thanks
No problem just returning the favour ;).
Dude I am stuck don't know what to do
Stuck in what?
how do I get into chat whenever I try there isn't any chating just graphs
You should be able to click the text box in the bottom and type what I said and it should get you in. It could be that you don't have java or something but I doubt that since it let you see that stuff, not 100% sure though.
ya I have java thanks
Your welcome, good luck getting in.
As follow, the chat from today. Feel free to e-mail me questions
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? @PercyLucid: Pefect. Let's get started
? @zebrah : ok
? @PercyLucid: welcome all to the MILD classes
? @PercyLucid: a pleasure sharing these with you all
? @PercyLucid: the first class will be more of an intruduction to MILD and how to get started
? @PercyLucid: I want you all to assist specially to the 2nd and 3rd class
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? @PercyLucid: those two are the most important ones
? @PercyLucid: but today we will start on the basics
? @PercyLucid: first of all, do you all know what MILD means?
? @zebrah : yes
Zelgius : Yeah
? Arbitror : Yep.
limitless : yes
DawgBone : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
: theking : yep
? @PercyLucid: good
? @PercyLucid: I wan to talk a little about the difference between DILD and MILD
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @PercyLucid: both of these are often confused
Spectrum : kind of
? @PercyLucid: DILD and MILD are similar, but not the same
? @PercyLucid: MILD is more of a daily work and focus (I will explain this today and in the upcomming classes)
? @PercyLucid: and DILD is more random
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? @PercyLucid: however, is true that working on certain things that are good for DILD, applies for MILD
? @PercyLucid: one of the main difference
? @PercyLucid: usually for DILD, you will just be doing RC during the day and intent to have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: with MILD you go a little beyond
? @PercyLucid: with MILD you are focused in a certain type of dream, such as flying in a forest or going to the moon
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? @PercyLucid: you are focused with different techniques
? @PercyLucid: to turn lucid and dream the dream you are looking for
? @PercyLucid: an easy example of these
? @PercyLucid: are our Tasks of the Month
? @PercyLucid: we all want to show off those flashy wings DV has
: theking : percy, I shot you a PM, but I have to leave
? @PercyLucid: and access to the lucid task club
? @PercyLucid: ok theking
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? @PercyLucid: so without noticing
? @PercyLucid: we are focused in completing these tasks
? @PercyLucid: you will know better specially on the second class when I talk about dream incubation
? @PercyLucid: which is one of the foundations to MILD
? @PercyLucid: however, today I want to touch a little of the basics
? @PercyLucid: do you all have a current dream journal?
Spectrum : Yep
limitless : yes
DawgBone : yes
Zelgius : Yes
? Gamecheater : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
Spectrum : I don't make it public though
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @zebrah : yes
? Arbitror : A work in progress.
CrimsonStorm : Haven't had the best recall the past few nights, though.
Spectrum : I can say the same.
? @zebrah : I keep mine on my itouch and posts lucids on DV
Alsroge : yessir.
? @PercyLucid: excellent
? @PercyLucid: dream journals, and these is explained for sure on every single course
? @PercyLucid: are our most important tool
? @PercyLucid: we need to recorgnize our dreams to increase our chances in turning lucid
? @PercyLucid: this helps for DILD and also for MILD
? @PercyLucid: so a journal is a must to keep
? @PercyLucid: how about a waking journal?
? @PercyLucid: waking usually has a lot to do with MILD
? @zebrah : No sir
? Andromeda155 : Nope
Zelgius : Nope :(
Spectrum : can't say I have
? Arbitror : Nope.
limitless : no, but would be easy
DawgBone : no
? Gamecheater : What is a waking journal? Just doucmenting what we do while awake?
? @PercyLucid: a waking journal is not a must, but sometimes it helps, specially if you have a lot of things going on
? @zebrah : Yes
CrimsonStorm : Not here, either.
? @zebrah : @ Gamecheater
? @PercyLucid: well, Gamecheater, sometimes we are flooded by waking thoughts, problems in work, school, with parents, wife, husband, kids.. etc
? @PercyLucid: some times is good to dispose of those thoughs. That will be covered with the Chest technique
? @PercyLucid: explained on the 3rd class
? @PercyLucid: a waking journal is not a must, but writting all your thoughs before going to bed, sometimes help
? @PercyLucid: now
? @PercyLucid: I want to know from each of you
? @PercyLucid: what do you usually do/think right before going to bed, let's say, 5 minutes before laying down and first 5 minutes in bed
? Andromeda155 : First 5: get ready for bed (i.e. brush teeth, etc.)
Spectrum : shal we go in alphabetical order?
? Gamecheater : Obviously what I did during the day and what Im going to do when I wake up.
Zelgius : I always am fascinated while falling asleep with wondering what I will end up dreaming about
DawgBone : I try to think about dreaming, recall and lucidity
? @zebrah : I think about dreams a lot.
? Andromeda155 : Second 5: relax in bed, don't think about anything in particular.
? @zebrah : Also about day to day life
Spectrum : Actually, I usually just read until my mind goes blank or I fall asleep
? Arbitror : I usually am on the phone with my girlfriend before bed, then I hang up an began focusing on dreaming.
CrimsonStorm : I'm usually reading right before bed, as that kind of helps me relax. Sometimes, if there's something I need to remember to do in the morning, I think about that, but otherwise, mostly just about what I'm reading. Can be anything from non-fiction to high fantasy.
limitless : first 5, different all the time. mostly about my day. second 5, hoping to have a LD and good RC
limitless : recall*
? @zebrah : First 5 is writing down dreams
? @PercyLucid: I see most of you are in shape
? @PercyLucid: well done
? @PercyLucid: for MILD is CRUCIAL to be focused on lucid dreaming
CrimsonStorm : Right now, reading about lucid dreaming, so that works. :)
? @PercyLucid: as I said before, the more mentally focused you are, the greater MILD will work for you
? Gamecheater : It's difficult to be focused on dreaming when your reality seems so amazing.
Zelgius : Oh phew! I always thought I was harming my chances by thinking too much about LDs!
? @PercyLucid: WBTB: Time for a Reality Check. Are you dreaming?
? @PercyLucid: Specially who is WBTBing now
Spectrum : got it
? @zebrah : No not right now :(
? @PercyLucid: there are several, several thing that will help to increase the chances of MILD
? @PercyLucid: that is why the ToTM are so important
? @PercyLucid: is more of a mental exercise for we all to keep focused on the topic
? @PercyLucid: with a reward (the wings and orange nick)
? @PercyLucid: the human mind works better if there is a goal and or reward
? @PercyLucid: having a goal/rewards help us greatly to be focused in the topic
? @PercyLucid: being focused in the topic increases a lot to MILD
? @PercyLucid: there are a few big NO(s) to do before going to bed
? @PercyLucid: and some of you are not going to like it!
? @PercyLucid: 1st- TV. TV is one of the LD nemesis
DawgBone : interesting
? @PercyLucid: watching TV right before going to bed... no good
CrimsonStorm : I can live with that one. Don't watch much TV anyways.
? Gamecheater : Same. I dont own a TV actually.
? @PercyLucid: of course, we all love TV, but turn it off 10-15 minutes before going to bed
? @PercyLucid: why?
Spectrum : easy enough
? @PercyLucid: well
? @zebrah : yeah I don't watch to much YB
? Gamecheater : What about computer before bed?
? @zebrah : TV*
DawgBone : You don't want to dream about TV images
? @PercyLucid: the TV uses our right side of the brain, which is the opposite to the left side of the brain
? @PercyLucid: when we watch TV, we are very receptive
? @PercyLucid: that is why all the announcements and stuff we see
? @PercyLucid: when we watch TV, we "accept" all we see as an alternate reality
? @PercyLucid: which is what happens in dreams too
? @PercyLucid: and we do NOT want to accept the reality of a dream
? @PercyLucid: Fernando Albert
? @PercyLucid: KSS International, Inc
? @PercyLucid: [email protected]
? @PercyLucid: upsss
? @PercyLucid: but
? @PercyLucid: we want to question the reality of a dream, to turn lucid
? @PercyLucid: so, TV before going to bed... no no no
? @PercyLucid: computers..
? @PercyLucid: they are fine
? @PercyLucid: whenever you stay on topic
? @PercyLucid: and you do not "watch TV" in your computer
? Gamecheater : I usually play computer games before bed. 3d games with realistic graphics.
? @PercyLucid: using your computer is fine
Spectrum : Oh, here's a question
Spectrum : how about video games?
Spectrum : oh
? @PercyLucid: videogames are good for LD, somehow
? @PercyLucid: hold old
? @PercyLucid: on
Spectrum : yeah, just in a general sense
CrimsonStorm : Really?
CrimsonStorm : Huh, wouldn't have guessed.
? @PercyLucid: Computer is great before going to sleep, specially if you are in topic related boards such as DV
Zelgius : good as in beneficial, or good as in they do no harm?
? @PercyLucid: one important thing you do
? @PercyLucid: 10 minutes before going to bed and while falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: you want to be as focused in LDing as possible
? @PercyLucid: and I will say why
? @PercyLucid: do you guys know what daily residue is?
limitless : yes
? Andromeda155 : No
DawgBone : yes
Zelgius : No
Spectrum : No
CrimsonStorm : I could guess, I think, but haven't heard that exact wording before.
? @zebrah : Yes
? @PercyLucid: ok
? @PercyLucid: daily residue is basically, with my own words... stuff we have been doing all the day, is stored in our minds
? @PercyLucid: there is a chance to dream something related or overally to a daily residue memory
? @PercyLucid: MILD benefits extremely from daily residue
? @PercyLucid: that is why the more focus you are in LDing the greater the chances are
? @PercyLucid: as when you incubate a dream, focus in lucidity, read a book about LDing, you create "lucid" residue
? @PercyLucid: I am sure some of you, dream sometimes about turning lucid, or lucid related stuff, but without being really lucid
Spectrum : I've done it once or twice
? @PercyLucid: well, that is good
? @PercyLucid: well
? @zebrah : Well
? @PercyLucid: our last thoughts of the day
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, me too.
? @PercyLucid: are the most important ones before going to sleep
? Andromeda155 : yeah
? @PercyLucid: other big no no no before going to be
? @PercyLucid: is thinking about our daily issues (school tests, business goals, work, house hold issues, etc)
? @PercyLucid: and I know this is hard
? @PercyLucid: but with practise
? @PercyLucid: it can be done
Zelgius : Dang, I'm REALLY guilty of that...
? @PercyLucid: I will explain this in the second class more deeply
? @PercyLucid: usually, when we go to bed
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, I'm pretty bad about that.
? @PercyLucid: our mind starts to rewing all our issues and we basically scew all dream related stuff
? @PercyLucid: One important thing before going to bed
? @PercyLucid: is to AFFIRM we are going to have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: our voice is more powerful than we imagine
? @zebrah : Yeah
? @zebrah : "The next time I am dreaming I will realize I am dreaming"
? @PercyLucid: and the fact of saying, "I lucid dream" is like an order for our subsconscious
? @PercyLucid: too long zebrah!
? @zebrah : Aww
? @zebrah : That one works for me
? @PercyLucid: we want to affirm, use it as a mantra, but something short
? @PercyLucid: yeah, each people will find their very best mantra
? @zebrah : Yeah
? @PercyLucid: but I like to recommend to start with some brief
? @zebrah : I went through a lot
? @PercyLucid: It is also important
? @PercyLucid: to stay positive and focused
? @PercyLucid: and with positive I mean'
? @PercyLucid: trully believing in yourselfs
? @PercyLucid: affirming you will have a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: and reality believe it
? @PercyLucid: Did you at least had one lucid dream?
Spectrum : technically, 3
? @zebrah : Yes
limitless : no
Zelgius : Yeah
DawgBone : yes
CrimsonStorm : Ever? Yes.
Spectrum : but they all ended before i could really do anything
? Gamecheater : No.
CrimsonStorm : Two since I've started actually trying to.
Spectrum : these were all in august, since i joined DV
? Arbitror : Very low level, and then my dad ruins them in-dream. :/
? Andromeda155 : I think so. Like, a long time ago there was an asteriod coming towards a boat I was in and when i thought about moving it it turned around... Does that qualify?
CrimsonStorm : Four or five others before.
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limitless : i can suggest things in my dreams too, but thats not a LD to me
? @PercyLucid: OK. That is not a problem
? @PercyLucid: for people who had a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: while you are falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: recall that feeling you had when you turned lucid
? @PercyLucid: that also helps
? @PercyLucid: for people who did not have one yet
? @PercyLucid: focus on the thrill of waking up the next day and feeling so excited about your first lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: it is very important to stay focused
limitless : will do
? @PercyLucid: and to stay positive
? @PercyLucid: it will be easier as day passes
? @zebrah : I'm gunna afk for a bit I'll be watching
Zelgius : But if I concentrate of the excitement I felt when I went lucid then won't I have a hard time falling asleep thinking of so much emotion?
? @PercyLucid: and once you realize to see it works, the chances will skyrock for you
? @PercyLucid: excellent question Zelgius
? @zebrah : brb
? @PercyLucid: Strong emotions are not good for falling asleep or balancing a lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: however
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? @PercyLucid: get your excitement to the point you can smile, but your heart does not race
? @PercyLucid: you will fall asleep, trust me
Zelgius : Thanks
? @PercyLucid: I woke up in the middle of the night
Zelgius : k
? @PercyLucid: after completing a ToTM and beating an old dude who I have not seen around DV for weeks
? @PercyLucid: I wrote the thing down in the DJ and went back to bed, I fell asleep
Spectrum : heh.
? @PercyLucid: try to feel excited, but not thrilled
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? @PercyLucid: you want to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid: do not forget that
? @PercyLucid: it is good to focus on a goal, and I will took about that in a later class with more detail
? @PercyLucid: but
? @PercyLucid: Tell me
? @PercyLucid: why do you want to turn lucid? This is something important
? @PercyLucid: why do you want to be lucid in your dreams?
Zelgius : To explore my subconscious
? @zebrah : Because I want to explore the possibilities of my kind
DawgBone : It is an alternate reality
limitless : i want to fly, and FEEL something different
Spectrum : Probably because i know from past experience how amazing it feels
CrimsonStorm : I want to be able to do things that are impossible in real life.
CrimsonStorm : And what spectrum said.
? Gamecheater : To learn more about my subconcious, and to explore the concepts of a dream plane.
Spectrum : There's also a few dream goal's I've become somewhat obsessed with
? @zebrah : mind*
Spectrum : goals*
? Arbitror : My imagination leads to me wish I could do many things. Lucid dreaming is the only way I can do most of them.
? @PercyLucid: good, good, good
? @PercyLucid: I liked how fast you did reply
? @PercyLucid: if you have no reason to turn lucid, you wont
? Andromeda155 : It will give me access to myself and let me do things that would be impossible in reality
? @PercyLucid: but you all do
? Andromeda155 : sorry for the late response
? @PercyLucid: no problem
? @PercyLucid: which is great
? @PercyLucid: you want to keep focused on those goals
? @PercyLucid: for now
? @PercyLucid: I will explain how to set some archieble goals in a later class
? @PercyLucid: it is very important for your mind and subsconscious to see some progres
? @PercyLucid: and you guys named a few hard ones
? @PercyLucid: feeling freedom and doing what you want without boundries
? @PercyLucid: it is an excellent goal to be focused on
? @PercyLucid: when the 4th class is over
? @PercyLucid: you will be doing this on a regular basis almost without thinking about it
? Gamecheater : What about speaking to your subconcious? There was one time where I was lucid and I asked someone to help me find my subconsious and I felt a dark feeling, and the dream ended.
? @PercyLucid: and without thinking about it, I mean, you will focus yourself without reminding you to do so
? @PercyLucid: Gamecheater that is a major goal. Requires some level, but if you had some lucids and you really want to accomplish that, hang on it
? @PercyLucid: that is a little hard to incubate
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: once we get to incubation
? @PercyLucid: and goal setting
? @PercyLucid: if you really want to focus on that goal
? @PercyLucid: you can PM and we will work on it together
? Gamecheater : Arlight, thanks.
? @PercyLucid: that requires to be super lucid though
? @PercyLucid: and I did not explain that... I think it will be good
? @PercyLucid: some people will not agree with me
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: I read this over Robert Waggonner's book
? @PercyLucid: I really recommend that book to read
CrimsonStorm : What's the title?
? @PercyLucid: do not remember well the title, but send me a PM and I will ge the book and let you know
CrimsonStorm : Will do.
? @PercyLucid: thanks to that book I accomplished major goals while lucid
? @zebrah : PercyLucid: You should start a deep dreaming tutorial on it
? Gamecheater : It's called Lucid Dreaming:Gateway to inner self
? @PercyLucid: yep
? @PercyLucid: that one :P
? @PercyLucid: thanks Gamecheater
? @zebrah : Nice
CrimsonStorm : Thanks
? @PercyLucid: read it, believe or not, you can find it in your local library
? @PercyLucid: so
? @zebrah : really
? @PercyLucid: let's recall
? @PercyLucid: but before
? @PercyLucid: reality check time
Zelgius : Oh! and if you have a kindle/ipad you can get it from amazon as an ebook for 9.99!
? @zebrah : done
? @zebrah : Nce
? @zebrah : nice*
CrimsonStorm : Very nice.
limitless : fancy gadgets
? @PercyLucid: perfect
limitless : reccomended RC?
? @PercyLucid: so, to recall the do's and don'ts
? @PercyLucid: well, that is zebrah's class
? @PercyLucid: but
? @PercyLucid: hand check is the most efficient usually
? @zebrah : wait
? @zebrah : Lol
? @PercyLucid: then try to jump, gravity will fail
limitless : palm poke, nose plug, and hand check? thats what i do
CrimsonStorm : Or nose-plug check
CrimsonStorm : if you can't see anything
? @zebrah : If you want a brief RC overview you can stay later
? @zebrah : I'll give one
limitless : okay, thanks
Zelgius : Thanks!
? @zebrah : A freebee
? @PercyLucid: So, your last minutes before going to be, should be as follows
Spectrum : I think I'm pretty clued up on the different checks
? @zebrah : Afk for bit
? @PercyLucid: forget about TV... that is period. Keep up focused as much as possible on LDing
? @PercyLucid: do not recall waking thoughs (not for this week, next week we will recall them with other purpose)
? @zebrah : Spectrum: its not just different checks but how to do then effectively
? @PercyLucid: try to recall that feeling of lucidity
? @PercyLucid: if unknown, focus on how great it would be to fly and do whatever you want
? @PercyLucid: try to fall asleep and repeat a mantra that you can believe
? @PercyLucid: such as, "I lucid dream"
? @PercyLucid: it is very important
? @PercyLucid: to say it in present tense
? @PercyLucid: might sound silly, but if you always say "I will" you are sending a message to your subsconscious to LD in the future
Spectrum : Ah, this reminds me of uh
Spectrum : Couéism - definition of Couéism by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
? @PercyLucid: do not either say "I will lucid dream tonight"
? @PercyLucid: setting such a hard goal will end up into frustation
CrimsonStorm : About mantras... how does that work, exactly? Do you say it to yourself as you're falling asleep, as long as you can? It seems like the type of thing that would keep me awake.
? @zebrah : It is very relaxing
? @PercyLucid: "I lucid dream" is one great mantra. Other good mantra is "I will lucid dream tonight or very soon" You are using future tense, but for a short time period. The "very soon" is a good refresher if you did not lucid dream that single night
? @PercyLucid: ok
? @PercyLucid: say it to yourself while you are falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: you can talk it or think it
Zelgius : Say it out loud or in your head? and how much should you actually focus on the meaning of it? will your mind grasp it if you just keep repeating "I lucid dream" without much thought to it?
? @PercyLucid: the subsconscious will read your thoughts
? @zebrah : We can also say it durring the day correct
? @PercyLucid: yes zebra
CrimsonStorm : Wellll, when I've done not exactly mantras, but counting or other repetative mental things like that tend to keep me from falling asleep. Not sure why.
? @PercyLucid: of course, you should believe it
? @PercyLucid: do not see it fast and without being focused
? @PercyLucid: I have a very good induction technique, to aid MILD
? @PercyLucid: focusing on a beach
? @PercyLucid: and the waves
? @PercyLucid: but I will explain that next week
? @zebrah : K
CrimsonStorm : Alright, then.
? @PercyLucid: all you want to do
? @PercyLucid: is say your mantra
? @PercyLucid: while you say it
? @PercyLucid: feel excited about it or feel that "lucid feeling"
? @PercyLucid: the more you believe it, the better, I want to insist with this
? @PercyLucid: in fact
? @PercyLucid: the 2nd class is almost the most important
? @PercyLucid: because I will talk about the daily focus
? @PercyLucid: dream incubation
? @PercyLucid: how to stay possitive
? @PercyLucid: how to celebrate your goals before even archieving them
? @PercyLucid: MILD is about this... it does not cost money, you do not have to be laying in bed an hour to WILD... all you need is your mind and trust yourself
? @PercyLucid: and as the classess progress
? @PercyLucid: you will realice you are better that you think you are
? @PercyLucid: you just need to use your mind the proper way
? @PercyLucid: OK
? @PercyLucid: So any question about MILD and the differences it has with DILD?
Zelgius : Yes
Zelgius : After waking up, how exactly can we tell the difference between a MILD and a DILD?
? @zebrah : Because the MILD happens when you realize you are dreaming
Zelgius : Like for purposes if you wanted to record what type of induction you used
? @zebrah : either naturally or because of your dream scene
? @PercyLucid: it is easy yet hard to explain right now
? @PercyLucid: mmmm
? @PercyLucid: when we have more classes
Zelgius : Is it one of those things that you'll know when it happens?
? @PercyLucid: you will do some exercises
? @PercyLucid: while WBTB
? @zebrah : Once you have a MILD it is easier to tell
DawgBone : Is a MILD always oriented toward a specific task? I will fly tonight, etc.
? @zebrah : Zelgius: Yeah if you are doing mantras and what not then you become lucid randomly it's a MILD
? @PercyLucid: then, if you go to bed in the middle of the night (wake back to bed) you are focused on driving a red hover inside a volcanp
? @PercyLucid: and you will lucid dream yes or yes (non lucid is not an option)
? @PercyLucid: when you wake up the next day
? @PercyLucid: and realize you had your lucid
CrimsonStorm : DILDing is primarily based on layering reality checks on during the day, and then, based on doing that so often during the day and daily residue, reality checking when you are dreaming, which will, of course, fail.
CrimsonStorm : From what I understand.
? @PercyLucid: you should thanks to MILD
? @PercyLucid: if you did not do your homework and you have been all day thinking in all but lucidity, but you still had a lucid
? @PercyLucid: it is a DILD
? @PercyLucid: plus
? @zebrah : CrimsonStorm: Sort of but just daily residue may not make you lucid
? @PercyLucid: that is correct zebrah
? @PercyLucid: and at the same time is not
? @zebrah : It can be
Zelgius : I think he means residue from your RCing throughout the day
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
? @zebrah : I mean daily residue from reality checks
? @PercyLucid: MILD uses a lot of daily residue, so it takes a good help from it
? @PercyLucid: oh... well... always helps a little, but is not enough
? @PercyLucid: you might dream you do a RC and not turn lucid
? @zebrah : RC daily residue can set you up yo fail
? @zebrah : Yeah that tends to happen
? @PercyLucid: because you are not really doing a RC but dreaming you are
? @PercyLucid: this is a little hard to explain
? @PercyLucid: but
? @PercyLucid: when you do a RC in a dream
? @PercyLucid: your awareness is on the edge of lucidity
CrimsonStorm : Yeah, I see what you're saying.
? @PercyLucid: all you need is to see seven fingers to make sure
? @PercyLucid: like one dream I had time ago
? @PercyLucid: my cat was a kitty and all black
? @PercyLucid: that told me I was already dreaming
? @PercyLucid: and I prove it with the RC
? @zebrah : right
? @PercyLucid: but the RC itself does not induce the dream
? @PercyLucid: but my different cat did
? @zebrah : They also stabilize
? @PercyLucid: you need to RC through the day
? @PercyLucid: specially if you see odd stuff
? @zebrah : Awareness is key to reality checks
? @PercyLucid: to increase awareness
? @PercyLucid: yep, sometimes they do
? @zebrah : Homework for today percy?
? @PercyLucid: yep
? @PercyLucid: I am sure most of you have your DJ here
? @PercyLucid: but I want to track your work
limitless : yes
? @PercyLucid: so I need you
? @PercyLucid: to create a thread
? @zebrah : In student workbooks
? @PercyLucid: http://www.dreamviews.com/f86/
? @PercyLucid: you will set your post as
? @PercyLucid: MILD-1 Zebrah's Workbook
? @PercyLucid: using your own nickname of course
? @zebrah : Right
? @PercyLucid: even if you cannot record dreams
? @zebrah : I can change the title of anyone who already made one
Spectrum : Ah, I already made mine
? Gamecheater : Same.
? @PercyLucid: I want you to write down how did oyu feel during the day (brief no need to go in detail)
? @PercyLucid: and also
? @zebrah : ok do you need a name change
Spectrum : I still haven't updated it though; i was waiting until the first class
? @PercyLucid: AND PLEASE DO THIS, it is important
Spectrum : right now?
? @PercyLucid: write what you did before going to bed and specially, your focus while trying to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid: you will do this daily if possible
? @zebrah : If anyone wants their thread changed tell me
Spectrum : Ah, I see.
? @PercyLucid: do not feel ashemed if you were flooded by problems
limitless : okay
? @PercyLucid: it is OK, we are all here to learn
? @PercyLucid: so if you could not stop thinking abou that test or that customer... it is OK, post it too
? @PercyLucid: that way I can give advice
? @zebrah : k
? @PercyLucid: I have been doing that with my previous students and worked very well
? @PercyLucid: Also
? @PercyLucid: questions will arise
? @PercyLucid: post them in your workbook so I can answer them
? @zebrah : Folks I hate to do this but I cannot do the RC overview after this class
limitless : ah, okay
? @zebrah : PM me if you are interested
? @PercyLucid: and try if you have time, to read among your own workbooks
? @PercyLucid: so you stick up like a team
? @zebrah : I'll try at a later date
? @zebrah : Ok I g2g sorry thanks percy
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? @PercyLucid: and each of you have their bests and worse, so it is good to share so among yourselves you will get ideas
limitless : bye zeeb
? @PercyLucid: I want to remind, that next class is very very important
? @PercyLucid: please do not miss it, it will be the most intense and it will last around 2 hours with questions (there will be)
? @PercyLucid: I said 1:30 last class and it went over 2h
? @PercyLucid: but next class
Spectrum : Whoa
? @PercyLucid: you will get a lucid goal to meet
? @PercyLucid: and I can almost assure
CrimsonStorm : Alright, then. :)
Spectrum : I already have a couple of things in mind actually
? @PercyLucid: you will accomplish it or at least have several nearmisses
Spectrum : but i'll leave it for next week
? @PercyLucid: well, keep them for this week if you like
? Andromeda155 : Awesome
? @PercyLucid: because next week you will remove those from your mind :P
? @PercyLucid: sorry, but I will make sure you are all focused in the lucid dream I am going to set
limitless : wicked
? @PercyLucid: it will be something easier that the Basic task of the month
Spectrum : Okay, cool
? @PercyLucid: do not worry
? @PercyLucid: practially turning lucid will be enough
CrimsonStorm : Just for curiousity's sake, about how many of your students from your last class ended up having LD's by the end of the course? Most of them?
? @PercyLucid: but it will require minor dream control and a scenery (so you will practise incubation)
? @PercyLucid: most of them had
? @PercyLucid: and all had improvements
? @PercyLucid: they increased those "near miss" lucid dreams
? @PercyLucid: however, I have a small warning
? @PercyLucid: its possible to experience a slight decrease on dream recall
? @PercyLucid: at the beginning
? @PercyLucid: some of you, maybe are trying to increase dream recall
? @PercyLucid: you will now be more focused on LD and MILD
? @PercyLucid: and less focused on Dream Recall
limitless : okay
Spectrum : Alright
? @PercyLucid: so do not worry if you decrease recall
? @PercyLucid: you will need to assimilate the new stuff
? @PercyLucid: and then it will go up and improve by itself
? @PercyLucid: that is something I learned from previous class
? @PercyLucid: and now, is time for questions about what we talked about today. If any
Zelgius : Should we try to WBTB tonight? Or sleep as normal until you tell us otherwise?
Spectrum : I have a question, but brb
? Arbitror : Is it bad to try to MILD and WILD in the same night?
? Gamecheater : Anything for us to try tonight before we go to sleep? I'm going to try "I will lucid dream" as a mantra. Anything else?
Spectrum : Present tense :U
? @PercyLucid: Zelgius, you can if you like. But I will get into deep detail on Third Class about WBTB
limitless : "I Lucid Dream"
? @PercyLucid: http://www.dreamviews.com/f85/mild-1-syllabus-103467/
? @PercyLucid: that is our syllabus
Spectrum : Ok, I have a question but it might be a bit vague
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? @PercyLucid: Arbitror no it is not
? @PercyLucid: in fact
? @PercyLucid: MILD will aid WILD
? DreamHacker : Somebody told me this class was in MILD 1 so I waited there for 2 hours ugh
CrimsonStorm : And vice-verca, I've found as well.
? DreamHacker : Sorry Percy
Spectrum : Lucid aids like binaural beats of isochronic tones:
CrimsonStorm : For me, at least.
Spectrum : yes or no?
? @PercyLucid: most people fail wild because they are expecting the SP and HH and they do not fall asleep at all. If you focus on your mantra while WILDing you increas the chances of it
? @PercyLucid: Well Gamecheater, yes
? @PercyLucid: from today I want you to follow the DO's and DONT's before and while in bed
? @PercyLucid: that is a got chuck to start with
? @PercyLucid: your minds (well, all minds)
? @PercyLucid: are stubborn and at the beginning will be hard to focus
? @PercyLucid: so its some good work to get used ot focusing
? Gamecheater : Alright.
? @PercyLucid: no problem DreamHacker
? @PercyLucid: I will send you the Syllabus
? DreamHacker : Thanks percy for being so forgiving
? @PercyLucid: I mean
? @PercyLucid: the logs xD
? @PercyLucid: but please
? @PercyLucid: do not miss next class
? @PercyLucid: it is the most important one
? @PercyLucid: in the previous class
? DreamHacker : Of corse now I know where it is
? @PercyLucid: it made a difference with whom came
? @PercyLucid: OK. Time for more questions. If any
Spectrum : You didn't answer mine
? DreamHacker : What did you guys cover
? @PercyLucid: sorry did not see it
? @PercyLucid: well... I never tried those tones
Zelgius : Do you want us to keep our DJs on the DV system? I'm not sure exactly how it works, is it okay if the DV DJ system is used to enter in it every day?
? @PercyLucid: I think the mind is powerful enough
? @PercyLucid: without aids
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: if you have a hard time to sleep
? @PercyLucid: they will definitely help you to calm down
? @PercyLucid: and if they makes sounds during your dream and you realize
? @PercyLucid: you got a lucid
? @PercyLucid: but that is an EILD nothing to do with MILD
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? @PercyLucid: You can use it of course
Spectrum : Ok, thanks
? @PercyLucid: you can make a link to it in your workbook
? @PercyLucid: but I want to access them from your workbooks, along with what I mentioned before
? @PercyLucid: I want also to ask you folks
? @PercyLucid: to read the Comment Box
? @PercyLucid: http://www.dreamviews.com/f81/comment-box-96881/
? @PercyLucid: and to post on it for the sake of future students
? DreamHacker : What did you guys cover
? @PercyLucid: and do not forget to keep up with your workbooks!
? @PercyLucid: Basic Introductions
? @PercyLucid: - What is MILD.
? @PercyLucid: - Differences between MILD and DILD
? @PercyLucid: - Examples.
? @PercyLucid: Getting started
? @PercyLucid: - Importance of a Dream Journal.
? @PercyLucid: - Importance of a positive focus before going to bed.
? @PercyLucid: - Do(s) and Don't(s) before going to bed.
? @PercyLucid: Assignment:: Each student must start a mandatory dream journal and post in it for the duration of the course. Even if no dreams are recalled, feelings should be recorded. The professor will track the student and provide advice / answer questions.
Spectrum : alright
? @PercyLucid: http://www.dreamviews.com/f85/mild-1-syllabus-103467/
? @PercyLucid: there is the whole stuff that will take place during the classes
? @PercyLucid: so, any more questions folks?
? Andromeda155 : Thanks for the class Percy, I'm going to head to bed.
limitless : thank you, percy
DawgBone : Thanks for the class, PL. See you next week
CrimsonStorm : None here.
Spectrum : Yeah, it's been great
? @PercyLucid: OK WAIT
? Andromeda155 : Okay
? @PercyLucid: WBTBers
* CrimsonStorm ¦ waits
Spectrum : reporting.
? @PercyLucid: Who is WBTBing right now
* Spectrum ¦? * Arbitror ¦? @PercyLucid: please, close the chat DO NOT GO TO YOUR E-MAIL OR FACEBOOK
? DreamHacker : What if we already keep a dream journal on DV already does that count
? @PercyLucid: you have been bombarded with the topic
? @PercyLucid: so you want to not remove it away from your mind
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limitless : lol
? Andromeda155 : Okay will do. Thanks again.
? @PercyLucid: yes DreamHacker,but make a link to your dream of the day in your workbok
? @PercyLucid: so
? @PercyLucid: who is WBTBing, close the PC, do a Reality Check
? @PercyLucid: go drink some water, other RC
? @PercyLucid: go to the restroom if you need for, other RC
? @PercyLucid: go to bed, other RC
? @PercyLucid: close your eyes
? @PercyLucid: deep breath and affirm you will lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: keep focused on all we talked about
? @PercyLucid: and happy lding
limitless : :D YAY!
? Andromeda155 : see ya next session
? Arbitror : Thank you.
? @PercyLucid: thanks for comming guys
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? @PercyLucid: I hope you enjoyed the class
Alsroge : Thanks, PercyLucid.
CrimsonStorm : Alright, thanks for the lesson, Percy!
Zelgius : Thanks so much! good night!
CrimsonStorm : It was great.
? @PercyLucid: the next ones will be way more intense, this was more of an intruduction
Spectrum : Brilliant
CrimsonStorm : If that's it, then good night everyone, see you all next Wednesday!
? @PercyLucid: you can now abandon this room, if you have questions go ahead, if not, we need to free it
Spectrum : Yep, hope to see you guys in chat and the workbooks
Spectrum : good night :)
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limitless : TY, bye
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? @PercyLucid: :) bye
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? Arbitror : Goodbye.
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? @PercyLucid: Alsroge DreamHacker and Gamecheater thanks :) Now exit the room plz
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? DreamHacker : Thanks PERCY night
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? @PercyLucid: thanks :)
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? @PercyLucid: all done Akono slash112
? @PercyLucid: xD
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Session Close: Wed Sep 22 19:55:57 2010
Isn't it /join #DVA mirrors ? I thought it was the DVA roomQuote:
Originally Posted by MascotHaha I've had a few but I've been going through a dry spell. By the way the classes are held in the chatroom, just look at the top of the page where it says chat. Once you sign in just type /join #MILD-1 mirrors. Then you'll be in the room.
Fail.. Yeah I your right, I gotta tell Dreamhacker sorry about that.. Atleast now I know I had the time right, just not the room. >_>
Ya I actually found it by luck
Haha nice, at least I'll be ready for next class. Sorry about the misleading. :P
Is the class on at the same time next week? I can attend because SCHOOL'S OUT!! YEAH!!!
Do any of you have iPod touches, iPhones or iPads? You can get DreamViews chat on them =D
This thread is over at the other DV forum: http://www.dreamviews.com/f18/how-ca...3/#post1538601
Skip to the bottom, and replace LimboCity with your username.
Happy class attending!
Thanks, Limbo! I'll probably just end up using my computer for the remainder of the classes, but it's always good to have options.
Just a couple of questions, Percy, which I guess we'll probably be going over in a later session anyways, but there's no reason not to ask now. First of all, how exactly can you use meditation to aid with MILDing? And second, how can you use WBTB with MILDs? Thanks!
Thanks for linking the iPhone tutorial, Limbocity. I was trying to get on chat on my iPod touch a couple of weeks ago without any success. I'll give it a go before the next class...
Spoiler for MILD-1 2nd Class Spoiler:
? @PercyLucid: Well, let's go then!
? quorthonafull : that reschedule gave me some time to fix my connection
? @PercyLucid: 1st. Any WBTBers?
? awol86 : yes
? mascot : Anytime I wake up ill go for one
? mascot : during the night that is :P
? quorthonafull : me sometimes
Spectrum : Yes
DawgBone : ha
? quorthonafull : when I have time
Spectrum : i woke up 15 minutes ago
CrimsonStorm : WBTBers meaning right now, I think?
jagga : yes, I wbtb pretty much every week day
Zelgius : I think he means anyone who's in the middle of a WBTB right now lol
? @PercyLucid: right now :P
jagga : oh not right now.
? awol86 : been trying it for the last 2 weeks
? quorthonafull : not right now
? @PercyLucid: I know I have some students late night, always some are...
? @PercyLucid: then that is why a few people is missing! They slept over the clock LOL
? @PercyLucid: so,
? @PercyLucid: today we are going to talk about how to incubate dreams
? @PercyLucid: this is the foundations of MILD
? quorthonafull : oh great
DawgBone : excellent
Zelgius : YAY
? @PercyLucid: it is a dedicated task, but easy to be done with the requirement of your mind only
? @PercyLucid: does any of you stuggle with imagination? Day dreaming?
? mascot : I suppose not
Zelgius : If anything I daydream too much lol
limitless : kinda
jagga : I daydraem most when im on the toilet
? awol86 : lol I struggle with trying not to day dream
? quorthonafull : I tend to disconnect myself from the reality some times per day
DawgBone : everyone day dreams, right?
CrimsonStorm : Not really. I've always had a good imagination.
? @PercyLucid: well, do not worry that much
? @PercyLucid: to incubate a dream
? @PercyLucid: basically you need to focus on a scenery and enjoy it vividly in your head
? @PercyLucid: I learned from the previous semester
? @PercyLucid: that different ways to day dream works better for each indivial
? @PercyLucid: for example, for me, creating the imagenery in my head works great
? @PercyLucid: You need to use your senses to engage in the dream you incubate
? @PercyLucid: let's say a dessert
? @PercyLucid: some people will be great at visualizing the dessert
? @PercyLucid: other people will be better hearing the loose noise of a sand storm in a dessert
? @PercyLucid: other people will be better touching the sand and cactuses and feeling it
? @PercyLucid: for some people it will be better to feel (taste) the dry air of the dessert
DawgBone : right! visualization is not necessarily visual -
? @PercyLucid: and for other people, the smell of the sand or a camel (lol) will be better
? @PercyLucid: very good DawgBone
? @PercyLucid: and that is something we all need to find out on the each of us
? @PercyLucid: some times the combination of these will work better for you
? @PercyLucid: so, let's say we want to dream
? @PercyLucid: we are flying over the dessert
? @PercyLucid: when we incubate a dream
? @PercyLucid: we spend minutes of the day focused in that dream
? @PercyLucid: you all should know that there is a chance to dream what we lived during each day
? @PercyLucid: thanks to the daily residue
? @PercyLucid: correct?
limitless : yes
DawgBone : right
? quorthonafull : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yup. Happens to me all the time.
jagga : yeah. get alot of dreams about the things i have thought about during the day
? mascot : mhm
Zelgius : YEAH
Spectrum : eh
Spectrum : sort of
Zelgius : sorry caps lol
? @PercyLucid: great
? @PercyLucid: when we incubate, we "abuse" the daily residue
? @PercyLucid: I had a lot of dreams with my new clients "thanks" to daily residue
? @PercyLucid: if you focus on a dream, and you end up dreaming it
? @PercyLucid: problably the daily residue is the cause of it
? @PercyLucid: other important thing
? @PercyLucid: several people asked me
? @PercyLucid: if you must incubate the whole dream
? @PercyLucid: well... it has a long response
? @PercyLucid: that is up to each individual
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: you do not need to incubate the whole dream
? @PercyLucid: but you want to spend at least 5 minutes incubating
? @PercyLucid: you want to specially incubate the first scenery
? @PercyLucid: because if you happen to "see" that same scenery it is very likely you will turn lucid
? @PercyLucid: with the appropiete RC afterwards, of course
? @PercyLucid: when you dream from daily residue
? @PercyLucid: it is hard to turn lucid cuz the reality is very similar to wakign reality
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: if you are focused on a dessert with a purple cactus
? @PercyLucid: and you incubate that scenery several times a day
? @PercyLucid: you might end up finding yourself really seeing the purple cactus
? @PercyLucid: your waking reality was imagining that cactus
? @PercyLucid: but if you actually see it, you will realized you twisted the reality, problably you will do a RC
? @PercyLucid: hopefully it will fail and you will turn lucid
? @PercyLucid: that is the secret
DawgBone : interesting
? quorthonafull : interesting...
CrimsonStorm : Hmm.
? @PercyLucid: daily residue sucks... but if you play around it, it can be awesome
? awol86 : rather interesting
? @PercyLucid: (if you have questions, save them for the end, please!)
? @PercyLucid: this is the reason you do not need to actually incubate the entire dream
? @PercyLucid: but you want to be focused 100% in your scenery so you increase a lot the daily residue randomless
? @PercyLucid: a brief example
? @PercyLucid: for the dessert
? @PercyLucid: this is how I do it
? @PercyLucid: I first close my eyes (not really necesary, but I do need to do it... even to try to guess a zen card or bend a spoon... if I do not close my eyes, I am screwed)
? @PercyLucid: you do not really need to do so, but if you have a lot of stuff going on in front of you, it will be harder to concentrate
? @PercyLucid: I close my eyes and I first see the dessert (I like visual)
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? @PercyLucid: I feel myself in the dessert - I recall THE FEELING WHEN I AM LUCID (this is important. If you never tunred lucid or cannot recall, feel excitement and freedom)
? @PercyLucid: I first look around the dessert and I hear the wind comming from my back (I like sound too)
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? @PercyLucid: you need to put as much detail as possible in the dessert
? @PercyLucid: 18:20 ? @PercyLucid: I feel myself in the dessert - I recall THE FEELING WHEN I AM LUCID (this is important. If you never tunred lucid or cannot recall, feel excitement and freedom)
? @PercyLucid: 18:20 ? @PercyLucid: I first look around the dessert and I hear the wind comming from my back (I like sound too)
? quorthonafull : sorry, connection got down a second
? @PercyLucid: make sure you visualize the sand, the temperature, the nothingness aroudn you
? @PercyLucid: you can put animals too, but if you are starting to incubate, better do not
? @PercyLucid: make sure you look around and visualize also the sky
? @PercyLucid: now, you will focus on realizing you are dreaming (DO NOT FOCUS on doing a RC or if it fails or not, just focus on turning lucid)
? @PercyLucid: feel excitement (not too much) and visualize yourself starting to fly
? @PercyLucid: feel the wind in your face, your body floating and the "birds' view"
? @PercyLucid: this will be different for each of you and it might sound weird for some of you
? @PercyLucid: but what you mainly want to do
? @PercyLucid: is to daydream the first minutes of your dream
? @PercyLucid: and trully enjoy them
? @PercyLucid: (we will go on that now)
? @PercyLucid: you need to make sure you are focused
? @PercyLucid: there is not a minimum amount of incubation time required
? @PercyLucid: the more, the better, but too much is bad too
? @PercyLucid: you do not want to obsess yourself and neither make your mind bored of it
? @PercyLucid: my recommendation
? @PercyLucid: is to incubate when you wake up (and after you wrote down dreams, if any)
CrimsonStorm : maybe incubate in a WBTB?
? @PercyLucid: it is a great moment to do it, your mind is very fresh and is when it archives the most
? @PercyLucid: yes...
? @PercyLucid: I will go deep with WBTB on 3rd class
CrimsonStorm : Ok.
? @PercyLucid: but WBTB should be a continuous incubation after dreams are written down
? @PercyLucid: if you find 2-3 minutes you are on your own
? @PercyLucid: it is a good time to incubate too
? @PercyLucid: while taking a shower, is another great moment to incubate... you do not want to be disturbed
? @PercyLucid: and obviously
? @PercyLucid: before going to bed is a must
? @PercyLucid: in factr
? @PercyLucid: whenever you are in bed, you want to think about your mantras, turning lucid and incubate the dream
? @PercyLucid: other good moment
? @PercyLucid: is when you are driving (please, do not close your eyes)
DawgBone : ha
? awol86 : lol
? @PercyLucid: while driving, usually mind wanders a littlle bit, so if you incubate (just recall your target dream vaguely)
? @PercyLucid: if you are driven to school or work by bus or your mom's car
? @PercyLucid: you can then incubate perfectly
? @PercyLucid: now
? @PercyLucid: you want to stay focused on the dream you are incubating
? @PercyLucid: specially before going to bed
? @PercyLucid: so
? @PercyLucid: this might be a little hard
? @PercyLucid: but with training and perseverance
? @PercyLucid: you can archive it
? @PercyLucid: you know while trying to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid: your mind wanders a lot... this is very hard to fight
? @PercyLucid: when falling asleep, you want to incubate too, it will be super effective, specially, after a WBTB
? @PercyLucid: however, you will do different before falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: the way you will do it before falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: is focusing on a static image
? @PercyLucid: in this case, the dessert
? @PercyLucid: but the scenery will be stale... nothing will happen
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? @PercyLucid: if this is hard for you
? @PercyLucid: you can start with something easy
? @PercyLucid: such as a white circle with a black background
? @PercyLucid: you will keep that static image in your mind and try to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid: if you find yourself thinking about random stuff
? @PercyLucid: just go back to your static image
? @PercyLucid: you will need to fight a little your mind, it is stubborn!
? @PercyLucid: do this three-four times per night
? @PercyLucid: do not obssess
? @PercyLucid: if you find yourself thinking random clutter three or four times
? @PercyLucid: affirm you will do better tomorrow and try to fall asleep
? @PercyLucid: without doing it
? @PercyLucid: you cannot put a lot of preassure on your mind, but a little of sluggle is necessary
? @PercyLucid: any questions up to here?
DawgBone : good stuff
limitless : nope
? quorthonafull : no
? @PercyLucid: this is extremely important
Zelgius : You said to incubate with a stale image, isn't that hard if you prefer to use other senses besides visual?
? @PercyLucid: and I really want you guys to keep track of this in your workbooks. I haven't been replying to them as much as I wish, but I read them daily (I get a notification) and take notes :)
? @PercyLucid: 18:20 ? @PercyLucid: I feel myself in the dessert - I recall THE FEELING WHEN I AM LUCID (this is important. If you never tunred lucid or cannot recall, feel excitement and freedom)
? @PercyLucid: 18:20 ? @PercyLucid: I first look around the dessert and I hear the wind comming from my back (I like sound too)
? @PercyLucid: zelgius yep :)
CrimsonStorm : So, the eventual goal is to focus on your static image until it is the last thing you think about before sleep?
? @PercyLucid: yes CrimsonStorm but that only applies before going to sleep
? @PercyLucid: you want to incubate a dinamic dream during the day
Zelgius : So it's bad if I prefer to walk around in my visualisations? I like to hear my breathing and footsteps, etc when I daydream
CrimsonStorm : Yep
? @PercyLucid: that is awesome Zelgius, go ahead!
Zelgius : Oh okay I guess I misunderstood, sorry!
? @PercyLucid: whenever you use one or more of your senses you are doing your work
? @PercyLucid: no problem Zelgius :)
? mascot : So would it be better to use all of your senses before going to bed or just use the static image?
? @PercyLucid: what I just said, is the foundation of MILD and the big load of work
? @PercyLucid: before going to bed, use your best one or two senses
? mascot : alright
? @PercyLucid: and make sure it is static (if it is a smell, make sure it stays the same smell, if it is a sound, ensure it does not change, if imagenery, make sure is static)
? @PercyLucid: during a regular incubation
? @PercyLucid: use as much senses as possible, but still focus on the main ones
? @PercyLucid: you must engage your body as much as possible
? @PercyLucid: NOW
? @PercyLucid: this second part, is very important too
? @PercyLucid: it is also the hardest one, I have to advice that, is is not hard, but that it is up to each individual
? @PercyLucid: be honest and tell me, how much you can assure you will have a lucid dream before the 5th (today is the 1st)
? @PercyLucid: let;s say from 0% to 100% possibilities
? @PercyLucid: ask yourself, what do you feel? be honest
Zelgius : 85%
? quorthonafull : 60%
DawgBone : 20%
CrimsonStorm : Uhm. 10%... maybe.
? awol86 : 75%
Spectrum : the 5th...
limitless : 30%
Spectrum : 20%
? mascot : 70%, if I try hard and with a bit of luck
CrimsonStorm : :( Not very confident.
? @PercyLucid: well, do not worry
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: you need to ell yourself
? @PercyLucid: you will lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: the more possitive you are, the more efficient it will be
? @PercyLucid: tell me, if you at least, visualize a dream and yourself turning lucid, how excited do you get, from 0% to 100%
DawgBone : right
? @PercyLucid: so, visualize you are really lucid right now... how excited do you feel, from 0% to 100%
? mascot : 80%
Zelgius : 75
Spectrum : uhh
CrimsonStorm : 85%
DawgBone : 100
Spectrum : A lot
limitless : 90
Spectrum : I dunnp, 90%
? quorthonafull : 70%
? awol86 : 80-85
? quorthonafull : or 65%
DawgBone : 200
Zelgius : Lol Dawg
CrimsonStorm : haha
DawgBone : :-)
? @PercyLucid: nice
? @PercyLucid: I like that muchbetter
? @PercyLucid: and you will need to abuse these feelings
? @PercyLucid: it is important, after you visualize
? @PercyLucid: after each single incubation
? @PercyLucid: to celebrate and feel how awesome it will be when you lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: focus on the feeling of waking up and saying, "Damn! I had an epic lucid dream! I have to hit DV and post it right away!"
? @PercyLucid: cool, huh?
? @PercyLucid: that is important
Zelgius : Lol totally
DawgBone : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes, very.
? mascot : yup
? @PercyLucid: when I was 100% focused it had an efficiency of 100% for me
limitless : wow
? @PercyLucid: how cool will your nickname look
? @PercyLucid: with those fancy wings?
? @PercyLucid: how nice would be to say, hey percy! I earned the wings, may you assign them to me?
? @PercyLucid: It may sound silly
Spectrum : *-*
Zelgius : And orange name? =D
limitless : lol
CrimsonStorm : Not at all silly. :D
? mascot : Thatd make me feel so much more special
DawgBone : great
? @PercyLucid: but the Tasks of the Monthm, the wings and orange name
? mascot : :3
? @PercyLucid: helps a lot to accomplish this
CrimsonStorm : Mhmm. Oh, that reminded me of a question about incubation:
? @PercyLucid: I tell you, there is some awesome stuff inside the Lucid task club :P you better turn lucid soon!
? @PercyLucid: go ahead CrimsonStorm
Zelgius : Haha wings+orange name =power, dominance, and authority.
CrimsonStorm : With, for example, the basic task of the month; most of that stuff is very similar to what I do in waking reality. Wouldn't that make it somewhat more difficult to recognize that I'm lucid? Thinking back to the purple cactus.
? mascot : Whoah you ride unicorns?
CrimsonStorm : Texting, IMing, etc.
CrimsonStorm : It's october now. :D
? mascot : oh yeah D:
? @PercyLucid: that is true and it is not CrimsonStorm
? @PercyLucid: use your imagination
? @PercyLucid: your reality
? @PercyLucid: it is chatting over DV or texting will your cell phone
? @PercyLucid: right?
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
CrimsonStorm : "Have a text conversation."
? @PercyLucid: why don't you visualize an apple with a touch screen and keys?
? @PercyLucid: use that apple to send a text message
? @PercyLucid: I am sure if you see an apple with a touch screen you will RC
? @PercyLucid: I would :P
? @PercyLucid: that is the trick
CrimsonStorm : Haha, alright, that works. I really hope I would.
? @PercyLucid: the task this month is not awesome
CrimsonStorm : Gotta get creative.
? @PercyLucid: but others are "easier"
? @PercyLucid: one of my favories
? @PercyLucid: was basic to give a flower to someone and advance to jump head on of a building
? @PercyLucid: I am actually going to set a small task for you guys
? @PercyLucid: will be easier than the basic task and somethign creative
? @PercyLucid: and there might be even a nickname color change :P (not sure yet)
? mascot : :D
Zelgius : Pink.
limitless : lol
DawgBone : ha
? quorthonafull : lol
? @PercyLucid: not sure about that though
? @PercyLucid: but at least, you will have a goal set for this week
? @PercyLucid: so I was talking about celebration your lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: when you incubate
? @PercyLucid: you want to make sure when you are done
? @PercyLucid: to feel how excited you will be when you wake up and find out you did it
? @PercyLucid: also
? @PercyLucid: this may sound silly
? @PercyLucid: but it works
? @PercyLucid: howeverm you do not want to do it with people around
? @PercyLucid: try to celebrate engaging your physical body you accomplished it
? @PercyLucid: this may sound silly, but it tricks your subconscious
? @PercyLucid: I remember when I was alone
? @PercyLucid: visualizing my dream
? @PercyLucid: when I was done, I would open my eyes, find myself smilling
limitless : lol
? @PercyLucid: and saying out loud, "Yes!!! Yes!!! I dreamt it!!!" You need to really believe it when you see it
? @PercyLucid: our words are very strong, stronger than you imagine
? @PercyLucid: you also want to celebrate moving your arms and stuff (this is why you want to be alone or people will thing you are nuts)
DawgBone : ha
? @PercyLucid: lets say
? @PercyLucid: your favorite football, soccer, basketball or baseball team scores a point in the playoffs, and you are really a lot into it
? @PercyLucid: or you defeat that stupid boss from such videogame
? @PercyLucid: and you stand up and say, "Yeeeeeees!!! Finally!!!!!!!"
? @PercyLucid: you shoud mimic that feeling
? @PercyLucid: and really celebrate you accomplish your tastg
? @PercyLucid: lucid task
? @PercyLucid: t is a little hard at the beginning, I want to advise
? @PercyLucid: but with time, you will get more and more possitive
? @PercyLucid: specially when you start getting near misses
? @PercyLucid: such as recalling a dream in a dessert
? @PercyLucid: or dreaming you turn lucid or you talk about lucidity
? @PercyLucid: you should not get pissed when that happens but excited
? @PercyLucid: if you find yourself you find to near-miss-hit lucidity, you are REALLY close to it
? @PercyLucid: and I am sure most of you if not all already experienced this
? @PercyLucid: am I right?
Spectrum : Yes
DawgBone : yes
Spectrum : well, sort of
Zelgius : Yeah, but I have a hard time being happy about it lol
? awol86 : yes
CrimsonStorm : Yes, sometimes.
limitless : once
? @PercyLucid: zelgius you should be happy... be possitive... it is better to dream you are talking about lucid dreaming
? mascot : once, before my first ld :P
? @PercyLucid: rather than dream with the TV show last week
? @PercyLucid: that menas you are almost going to lucid dream Zelgius
? @PercyLucid: so please, be happy about that, is one of the paths meaning improvement
? @PercyLucid: welcome those dreams, as your subconscious is working on turning you lucid
? @PercyLucid: now
? @PercyLucid: tell me your lucid goal(s) and the amount of times you turned lucid, if any (in one line, please)
CrimsonStorm : last week?
? @PercyLucid: no no, your personal lucid goal
? @PercyLucid: if any
DawgBone : To fly -- 9 times
limitless : to fly and breath under water, and never
? mascot : Flying, driving a car, zombies, and one that includes me and forsaken in bikinis.. and ive had about 4-5 lucid dreams
? mascot : Btw the last lucid goal was a joke D:
? awol86 : my personal goal was just to become lucid it happened 3 times this week
? @PercyLucid: well... better than last class :)
CrimsonStorm : Flying, specifically into space, 4-5 times
Spectrum : Controlling the weather, flying, transforming my body would be very cool
Spectrum : and uh
Zelgius : Task of the Month, 3
? @PercyLucid: easy goals for when beginning are important
Spectrum : 4 times, but I'm not sure i can count any of them
? @PercyLucid: Zelgius I hope only the basic one
? @PercyLucid: and this is what I want to talk now
Zelgius : Yeah, the elevator one
CrimsonStorm : And always (basic) task of the month as well.
Zelgius : I didn't even want to think about the atomic one
Zelgius : but now new tasks!
? @PercyLucid: excellent zelgius, that is what I wanted to read
? quorthonafull : d'oh, another micro cut in the connection
? @PercyLucid: it is important to set a goal suitable for you
? @PercyLucid: for improvements, you need goals
? @PercyLucid: but you need a reasonable goal
? @PercyLucid: I hate to see people hitting frustration every night
? @PercyLucid: when they had one lucid
? quorthonafull : hmmm, learn to fly, to cast spells, find my DG...
? @PercyLucid: and their goal is to, "Controll all the DC, possess one of them, have sex with other one and blow up the Earth"
? @PercyLucid: quorthonafull how many lucids you had?
? quorthonafull : since joining, 11
CrimsonStorm : my frustration is overcoming in general dreaming dry-spell.
CrimsonStorm : D:
? @PercyLucid: well, that is good, but set ONE goal
? @PercyLucid: spend 3-4 lucids trying to fly
? @PercyLucid: only focus on that goal
? @PercyLucid: forget about spells now
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid: or you will sofocate your mind and find no improvement
? @PercyLucid: this is important
? @PercyLucid: most of your goals were great
? @PercyLucid: learning how to fly is one of the first goals you must have
? @PercyLucid: it is a basic but very pleasant ability
? @PercyLucid: once you see you are accomplishing goals
? @PercyLucid: you will be on the right path
? @PercyLucid: trust me, this has been tested seevral times
? @PercyLucid: and it works, always
? @PercyLucid: scientifically proven :P
? @PercyLucid: So
? @PercyLucid: For the remaining of these three weks
? @PercyLucid: I want you all to forget about your goals
limitless : done
? quorthonafull : ok
DawgBone : what goals?
CrimsonStorm : what goals?
? @PercyLucid: lucid goals
CrimsonStorm : xD
DawgBone : ha
? @PercyLucid: if you do not have, it is OK, in 10seconds you will
? @PercyLucid: xD
? @PercyLucid: Now, I want you to work on incubation this week
DawgBone : I feel like a chicken
CrimsonStorm : (meaning we already forgot them, I think) :)
? @PercyLucid: and I am going to set a lucid task and I want you all to complete it :P or I will perma-ban you from the boards
? @PercyLucid: lol just kidding
? @PercyLucid: but try to focus as much as possible
limitless : :O
? @PercyLucid: I want you to incubate what we were talking about
? @PercyLucid: all you need to dream
? @PercyLucid: is yourself flying in a dessert
? @PercyLucid: you must be lucid, however, if you are not lucid but you still dream it, it will give some points...as incubation worked "pretty well"
DawgBone : excellent
? @PercyLucid: Flying over a dessert, you do not need to do anything specific
? @PercyLucid: make sure you see a dessert and you are flying
? @PercyLucid: for a few seconds at least
? @PercyLucid: even if it is short
? @PercyLucid: it is OK
Zelgius : All I can think about is when I do this task, that it'll be super hot and I won't want to stick around long lol
? @PercyLucid: long stable lucids is not an easy goal, so just focus on that
Spectrum : hmm
? @PercyLucid: I might give you a small reward ;) if you complete it
? @PercyLucid: you have three weeks!
Spectrum : when I daydream, I often end up in deserts for some reason
Spectrum : deserts are cool.
? awol86 : can it be an open field instead? I have a few hang ups about the desert
? @PercyLucid: we will have more classes of course, but this has to be your main focus
limitless : D: i cant have a lucid by next week
Zelgius : Yes you can limitless :P
? @PercyLucid: OK. awol86 but make sure you are only focused on that
? @PercyLucid: I want you for this week
? @PercyLucid: to keep track of all your incubation in your workbooks
? @PercyLucid: when and how did you incubate
? @PercyLucid: if you were able to celebrate and assure you are going to hit your goal
? @PercyLucid: and of course, your dreams
? @PercyLucid: so
? @PercyLucid: any questions so far?
limitless : no
Spectrum : I had one, but i forgot it >_<
Spectrum : i'll say if i remember
? @PercyLucid: this is mainly the second class, incubating and celebrating your accomplishment before even hitting your goal is a lot to work on and enough for a week
? @PercyLucid: well, PM it to me then
Spectrum : ok :)
? mascot : Whats the small reward? :D
DawgBone : Cookie?
? mascot : I hope its a 24 hour ban
? @PercyLucid: complete the dream and you will know :P
? mascot : :3
? mascot : fine fine
CrimsonStorm : Having a lucid is reward enough for me.
CrimsonStorm : :D
? mascot : :P
? @PercyLucid: it is a good reward xD
? @PercyLucid: not a ban, lol
? mascot : Dangit :P
Spectrum : d'ohh
? @PercyLucid: so, if you guys have any questions, please PM them to me!
? mascot : Alright
CrimsonStorm : Ok
DawgBone : right
Zelgius : yessir
? mascot : You did good Percy.. you did good.
? @PercyLucid: it is a pleasure!
CrimsonStorm : Unrelated, but how long have you been an admin?
? @PercyLucid: I have to hit the road
? @PercyLucid: so I better go :P
DawgBone : Great class, PL. Thanks!
Zelgius : Adios Percy, thanks for class!
limitless : thanks, bye
? @PercyLucid: please, make sure you keep those workboosk updated
? quorthonafull : Amazing class
? awol86 : Thanks Percy. take it easy
? quorthonafull : Thakns!
? @PercyLucid: and focused only on the dessert or the field for awol86
? mascot : ID VOTE FOR YOU
CrimsonStorm : Very good. Thanks!
? @PercyLucid: thanks guys!
? mascot : Thank you :D
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? @PercyLucid: now please abandone the channel :) let me know any questions and work hard!
? mascot : Cya people, good luck everyone
? mascot : alright will do
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Spectrum : alright then
Spectrum : I'll do my best
? @PercyLucid: see ya over DV and next class!!! I am looking forward for all those dreams!
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? awol86 : bye all!
CrimsonStorm : Alright, g'bye everyone. Good night and good dreaming!
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Spectrum : PLEASANT DREAMS.
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? LimboCity : Oh dear I'm too late
? quorthonafull : Bye!
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? LimboCity : Did I seriously just join at the end?
? LimboCity : ??
? LimboCity : Percy?
? LimboCity : Sorry I missed the class but I was on the road back from holidays
? LimboCity : Percy?
? LimboCity : Anybody?
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? LimboCity : Percy?
? LimboCity : You might be doing the log, sorry I couldn't attend
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Awesome! I will so beat you to it. Desert here I come!
Lol see me at the end of the chat log :P
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? @PercyLucid: OK
? @PercyLucid: we will start then
CrimsonStorm : I don't think so. I think it would be fun to be able to talk to all of my friends about it.
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? @PercyLucid: it is obvious that people got confused with the schedule
? @PercyLucid: the topic here at the DVA was wrong, Zebrah got confused apparently
? @PercyLucid: I want to say first, good work on your workbooks
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? @PercyLucid: most of them are updated daily, so well done
? @PercyLucid: I am happy with the 12-14 people working on them... I feel bad for the schedule confusion
? @PercyLucid: so, how do you feel after a week incubating the dessert?
Zelgius : amazed! =D
: limbocity : impatient
: limbocity : i need to learn to just take my time
CrimsonStorm : Improving, though still hopeful I can do better.
CrimsonStorm : And remember more. :-/
? @PercyLucid: that is very nice to hear Zelgius
? @PercyLucid: and well done to you all too!
Spectrum : hmm
Spectrum : Well, i'm getting there
? @PercyLucid: daily improvement is what it takes
: theking : Like I said, my incubation is "working" just not to that level
: theking : like I saw the desert visage and I saw the computer to do my TotM
? @PercyLucid: each of you goes at a different pace, but the workout pays off the same for each of you
? @PercyLucid: Zelgius
? @PercyLucid: you completed the task, but you lost the post as I read before
: limbocity : i'm using a level from a video game to incubate because I know it inside and out
? @PercyLucid: do you have the dream in your journal?
: limbocity : is that okay?
CrimsonStorm : I've found it very helpful to wake myself up sometime in the night, just so I can reaffirm my goal and recall as many dreams as I can.
Zelgius : Yes, I updated in my log that I had the dream and that it would be posted in my dream journal
Zelgius : sorry for the confusions, would you have prefered that I copy it into my log?
? @PercyLucid: yes please
? @PercyLucid: it is crucial
? @PercyLucid: you did the task
Zelgius : alright
? @PercyLucid: I want easy read for all students
Zelgius : makes sense!
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? @PercyLucid: in fact, at the end ofthe class
? @PercyLucid: I want you to do it
? @PercyLucid: so I will at it at the top of the log
? @PercyLucid: and
? @PercyLucid: CONGRATS!!! Does it fill good, huh>
? @PercyLucid: I am sure you jumped out of the bed!
Zelgius : It felt incredible! I was so proud of myself, and almost went to wake up my parents at 5 in the morning to tell them I did it haha
Zelgius : I wanted to share it with someone so badly XD
: theking : haha, awesome!
CrimsonStorm : That's really great!
Spectrum : Whoa
? @PercyLucid: well
Zelgius : thanks guys
? @PercyLucid: it is time for you to recall that feeling
: limbocity : yeah that is good
? @PercyLucid: you will get to work on the basic task only now
? @PercyLucid: the DV's basic task
? @PercyLucid: to earn your WINGS
Zelgius : haha k
: theking : lucky
CrimsonStorm : Very. :P
? @PercyLucid: well
Spectrum : mmm
? @PercyLucid: we are going to talk mainly about WBTB
Spectrum : Ah, brilliant
? @PercyLucid: I am sure you all know what WBTB stands for, right?
: theking : yep
Zelgius : yes
? Arbitror : Yep.
: limbocity : yeah
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
Spectrum : of course
? @PercyLucid: great, did not expect less :P
? @PercyLucid: I will not need to explain what is it then
? @PercyLucid: now
? @PercyLucid: be honest and describe in one line, what do you do from the moment you open your eyes int he middle of the night
? @PercyLucid: until you go back to bed and try to fall asleep
: theking : Figure out where I am and what just happened
Spectrum : ok
: theking : seriously, it's almost always a shock when I wake up in the middle of the night...
: limbocity : Think "Oh I better write those dreams down... Nahh I'll remember them in the morning"
: limbocity : and i dont
Zelgius : I wonder whether or not it's better to go back to sleep or go to the bathroom. lol.
Zelgius : Limbo I do the same thing!
Spectrum : I'll usually get out of bed, update my dream journal if i can remember anything, then read threads on here for between 10 and 30 minutes, then go back to sleep
Zelgius : Then I hate myself for it.
? Arbitror : Walk across the room and turn off my alarm (it's on my laptop), convince myself I'm awake enough to go ahead and try to sleep again and lay down.
CrimsonStorm : Like, when we wake up naturally, or when we're doing a WBTB?
CrimsonStorm : Either way, mostly the same thing as limbo and Arbitror. Getting better, though.
? @PercyLucid: either. I WBTB naturally, but if you need a clock, then both
? @PercyLucid: ok
? @PercyLucid: not bad (some)
CrimsonStorm : I don't wake up natrually that I remember, for some reason.
? @PercyLucid: I like to describe my WBTB process... when I am focus (not lately) it works very well
: theking : a few times I've tried to do it (without an alarm so it's more natural) and I just fall back to sleep =\
? @PercyLucid: you want to incubate while you WBTB, so i will explain how
? @PercyLucid: first, when I wake up, I keep lying in bed, trying to recall my dream. If I feel that my dream recall is weak, I repeat the last scenery over and over until I get to my journal (it is in the other room, I do not have a table in my room)
? @PercyLucid: I write down everything I can in my dream journal, any feeling I can recall, the last words said by a DC, or the last scenery
? @PercyLucid: even if they are loose words such as "sunny - outdoors - girls in the park - wind - felt good"
? @PercyLucid: I have not been updating my DV version of DJ due lack of time, but I did my paper one. For people who read my journal, will know that my fragments are recorded that way
? @PercyLucid: then
? @PercyLucid: Once I wrote everything I can
? @PercyLucid: I keep sitting for five minutes looking at my journal, I do not look around, nothing, just my journal
? @PercyLucid: usually I can recall a few more sceneries and sometimes I end up recalling an entire page
? @PercyLucid: then I go to the bathroom, I keep focusing on my previous dream hoping I can dig some more information
? @PercyLucid: make sure you go to the bathroom, "something comes out, always!"
? @PercyLucid: take your time
Zelgius : lol!
? @PercyLucid: stay 5 minutes in the bathroom thinking about your previous dream
? @PercyLucid: if you recalled everything, start to focus on your NEXT LUCID dream
? @PercyLucid: Our body works mysteriously and it is very sensitive to preassure
? @PercyLucid: if you push your body in a WBTB you might screw up because your body wants to keep sleeping
? @PercyLucid: but if you do things that are normal if you wake up in the middle of the night
? @PercyLucid: you will not put as much preassure as usually
? @PercyLucid: so far
? @PercyLucid: you probably spent 10 minutes in your journal and 5 at the bathroom
? @PercyLucid: if you recalled more information, go back to your journal, write it down
CrimsonStorm : What do you do lighting-wise?
? @PercyLucid: if not, start incubating your next dream
? @PercyLucid: focusing
? @PercyLucid: (wait)
CrimsonStorm : k
? @PercyLucid: focusing on your next dream, focus on your first scenery
? @PercyLucid: like regular incubate
? @PercyLucid: go drink some water, your body will appreciate it even if you are not thirsty... you will waste some more time too
? @PercyLucid: so far you should have spent a good 20 minutes
? @PercyLucid: go back to your bed (this is MILD, so your WBTB is slightly different that the regular ones that requires to read, stay 90 mins, etc)
? @PercyLucid: lay down in a possition YOU WILL NOT fall asleep but are comfortable
? @PercyLucid: Note: If you are very tired, you might end up falling asleep, and there is a big chance to trigger a WILD
? @PercyLucid: but that is another whole story
? @PercyLucid: while you are in your "not falling asleep" position, do a full incubation
? @PercyLucid: if waking thoughs invaded your mind, do chest technique first
? @PercyLucid: then incubate for five more minutes
? @PercyLucid: once you are done
? @PercyLucid: affirm you will have a lucid dream and complete your goal
: limbocity : what's the chest technique?
? @PercyLucid: feel yourself smiling
? @PercyLucid: (mmmm limbocity... that was on the logs!!!)
: limbocity : but i read the logs
: limbocity : :)
Zelgius : I don't remember the chest technique? o.O
Zelgius : unless i just don't recognize it by name
CrimsonStorm : Me either.
? @PercyLucid: mmmm
? @PercyLucid: that is odd!!!
: limbocity : i remember it being referred to
: theking : which class?
? @PercyLucid: it is not in the syllabus :O
: limbocity : last class
? @PercyLucid: am I dreaming?
? @PercyLucid: nop lol
: limbocity : YES
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid: sorry
Zelgius : LOL
: theking : haha
? @PercyLucid: let me finish the WBTB and I explain the chest technique
CrimsonStorm : I wish, haha
: limbocity : okay
: theking : works for me!
? @PercyLucid: once you are done with the chest technique, follow the DO's before falling asleep
? @PercyLucid: feel yourself smiling and keep a static image/smell/sense/sound/taste in your mind
? @PercyLucid: try to fight random thoughs the more the better
? @PercyLucid: like I said last week
? @PercyLucid: if you fall asleep with that image in your mind, it is easy to dreamit
? @PercyLucid: speacially in a WBTB as your next REMs should be longer
? @PercyLucid: you did not realize
? @PercyLucid: but you spent a good 30 minutes doing this, focused only ontopic
? @PercyLucid: without pushing your body
? @PercyLucid: now I am going to do something my students always request
? @PercyLucid: and it is a summary of the entire technique
? @PercyLucid: 1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
? @PercyLucid: 2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid: 3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid: 5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid: (25 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: Fernando Albert
? @PercyLucid: KSS International, Inc
? @PercyLucid: [email protected]
? @PercyLucid: darn
? @PercyLucid: last time happened the same
? @Alex : muahaha
? @Alex : :D
Zelgius : Haha
: limbocity : lolwut
Zelgius : Hmm is that your information, percy? hehehe
? @PercyLucid: (it is in mycopy-paste to add it to some e-mail (not nice as signature as I do not always add it)
? @PercyLucid: go ahead and e-mail me, I can give you some work xD
? @Alex : :)
: limbocity : lolol
? @PercyLucid: at
? @PercyLucid: good, that is in my copy paste now
? @PercyLucid: :P
? @Alex : oh
? @Alex : I thought its ur copmany :(
? @PercyLucid: Do a Reality Check
: theking : I do copy writing! lol
: limbocity : i'm not dreaming
? @PercyLucid: that is my new copy-paste thing (It is the company I am associate with Alex, I am a solo propiertor)
: theking : how many reality checks do you have?
? @Alex : mkay
? @PercyLucid: shhh you all :P
? @PercyLucid: 18:39 ? @PercyLucid: 1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 ? @PercyLucid: 2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid: 6- Go back to bed. Lay down in a possition you will not fall asleep. Full incubation (30 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 7- Do chest technique if needed and freeze a scenery in your head
? @PercyLucid: 8- Try to fall asleep asleep afirming you will lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: that is a summary of the steps
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? @PercyLucid: it is a very robust technique that works quite well
: limbocity : now chest technique
? @PercyLucid: even if you are flooded by waking junk
? @PercyLucid: 18:39 ? @PercyLucid: 1 - Stay in bed five minutes trying to recall the last dream
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 ? @PercyLucid: 2- Write down in your journal your dream and spend other 5 minutes focusing on recalling more info (15 mins average so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:40 Spectrum : oh, I've already been summarising it as you went >_<
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 3- Go to the bathroom, keep focusing in trying to recall more info from your last dream / focus on next one if you are done (20 mins so far)
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 4- Go back to your journal to write the additional info, if any
? @PercyLucid: 18:41 ? @PercyLucid: 5- Go and drink some water, you will appreciate it. Focus on your next dream, smile and recall lucidity sensation
? @PercyLucid: you will increase the chances
? @PercyLucid: now, chest technique
? @PercyLucid: The chest technique is a little hard, but the more you use it, the better you will get at it
? @PercyLucid: First, lay in bed or sit down in a quiet place
? @PercyLucid: then, visualize a chest in front of you, does not matter how is the chest, so do not ask :P Just, a chest...
? @PercyLucid: open the chest and start to recall your entire day
Zelgius : Wait, human body chest or treasure kind of chest?
Zelgius : oh nvm
? @PercyLucid: treasure kind xD
: limbocity : lol i thought the other one
Zelgius : ^ same haha
? Arbitror : Wow... Now that's all I'll think of trying this.
: theking : neat!
? @PercyLucid: good point though, it is some sort of meditation so it is easy to confuse, this is nice of having different students :) to perfectionate this... that did not happen last class, so thanks for pointing it out
? @PercyLucid: Open your treasure chest and recall your waking thoughs
? @PercyLucid: the most recent one firsts
? @PercyLucid: recall your entire though such as, "My math teacher told us we are going to have a test in two days, geez, it is hard!", or, "I hope my client signs the contract!"
? @PercyLucid: recall the though entirely, give that to your mind... then visualize the though entering the chest
? @PercyLucid: do this with all the thoughs wandering in your head
Spectrum : ok, question
? @PercyLucid: put them inside the chest (wait plz)
Spectrum : ok
? @PercyLucid: try to do this with as many thoughs as possible. You will work on recall (waking recall) so it improves all your recall (waking and dreaming) and also locking up the though tells your subsconscious to not access that information
? @PercyLucid: once you recalled your entire day, lock up the chest
? @PercyLucid: and make it dissappear
? @PercyLucid: this is harder than it sounds... it is hard to fight thoughs
? @PercyLucid: but
? @PercyLucid: it is way more efficient than you imagine
? @PercyLucid: your conscious will not really understand the reason of this (I am sure you do not do entirely)
? @PercyLucid: but it will do wonders with your subsconscious
? quorthonafull : great
? @PercyLucid: now, time for questions on both wbtb and chest tech
Spectrum : ok, chest technique:
: limbocity : how is wtbt different from a long deild>
: limbocity : sorry spectrum
Spectrum : should i recall everything starting from the beginning of the day onwards, or should I go backwards from where I am at the time?
Spectrum : Because I've heard of a couple of techniques where you go backwards
: limbocity : i like the idea of backwards
? quorthonafull : and... sorry for being late, I got confused about the days.
Zelgius : "the most recent one firsts" he said
? @PercyLucid: limbocity DEILD (actually my tuned up L-DEILD) will be explained next week, but has nothing to do with wbtn
: limbocity : yay backwards!
Zelgius : so backwards that seems
: limbocity : okay percy
CrimsonStorm : WBTB: How much light do you have on, usually?
? @PercyLucid: Spectrum: recall what is more deep in your mind, but also, if you have time, recall your entire day
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: I forgot to say
? @PercyLucid: before going to bed (at night, not at wbtb) you will do a FULL chest technique
? @PercyLucid: during a wbtb
? @PercyLucid: if a waking though comes to your mind, summon the chest and place it in
? @PercyLucid: but DO NOT recall your entire waking day, NO NO NO NO
? @PercyLucid: you only need the chest during a wbtb if a waking thoughs comes up to your mind, if none, do not even think in other think but dreams
Spectrum : oh ok
? @PercyLucid: CrimsonStorm, about light... mmmmmmmm
? quorthonafull : I'll need a giant chest for WBTB, even for that few minutes
? @PercyLucid: that is up to each one, I use a pale light for writing the dreams
? @PercyLucid: to go to the bathroom no light for me
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: the less light, the better
? @PercyLucid: you want to stay awake
? @PercyLucid: but this is not a heavy WBTB, it is a small variation to aid MILD
? @PercyLucid: more questions?
Zelgius : How far into the night should we wake up to WBTB?
CrimsonStorm : Yes.
CrimsonStorm : I was wondering about that too.
Spectrum : ah yeah
? @PercyLucid: well
? @PercyLucid: I do wake up naturally, and if you can, I prefer you doing it
? @PercyLucid: if you sleep through the night
? @PercyLucid: then clock for 6 hours
Zelgius : K.
? Arbitror : And if you only get around 6 hours of sleep?
? @PercyLucid: the way I want you to WBTB, you will prevent alot of loose of sleep
? @PercyLucid: well... that is a little too short, but then do 5 hours
? quorthonafull : here, the sunlight reaches my room at about 6 30 or 7
? quorthonafull : and I fall asleep at about 1:30
? quorthonafull : so...?
? @PercyLucid: I have total blackness glasses
? Arbitror : Yeah, but life's been tough lately. I've been running on 2-3 hours of sleep max.
? @PercyLucid: they are wonderful
Spectrum : I think i can manage 6 hours
Spectrum : if I'm asleep by 11:30 I guess, which is easy enough
? @PercyLucid: well, Arbitror that happens to us all... I am trying to say the proper way
? @PercyLucid: but you need to accomodate
? @PercyLucid: if you can sleep 2-3 hours per day, just sleep them through
? @PercyLucid: it is unhealthy to sleep that little
: limbocity : yeh as above the only thing im sorried about is the loss of sleep
: limbocity : worried
? @PercyLucid: yep, you should not be
? @PercyLucid: with my technique you will not wake yourself too much
? @PercyLucid: and you will stay away from 15-30 mins
? @PercyLucid: that is a slight lose of sleep
: limbocity : i guess it will encourage me to get to bed earlier
? @PercyLucid: that is the reason I say my WBTB is milder than the regular full WBTB
: limbocity : yeh i see that now
? quorthonafull : it's MILDer (?)
? @PercyLucid: it does a difference limbocity, trust me, when I go so late and when I go earlier
CrimsonStorm : nopunintended
CrimsonStorm : :D
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid: HUGE differences
: limbocity : excellent
? @PercyLucid: hhaha yep
? @PercyLucid: now!
: limbocity : no more halo at 10
? @PercyLucid: please, not! :P
: limbocity : lolol
Zelgius : Should we write down our dreams in a dream journal, or would it be okay to record them on a cellphone/computer?
? @PercyLucid: videogames increases dream control a lot... and for some people increases lucid dreaming, but play it not before going to sleep!
? quorthonafull : dammit, i go to bed at about 0:30
Spectrum : I've been doing WBTB for a while, but i think I might have been waking up too early
: limbocity : can i incubate a desert from a video game?>
? @PercyLucid: zelgius it is OK to record them on a cell / comp, however, at night
Spectrum : i think 3 out of the 4 lucid moments i had were after a WBTB
? @PercyLucid: you want to avoid screens
? @PercyLucid: they are too bright
? @PercyLucid: how many of you do meditate?
CrimsonStorm : 2 of 3 of mine.
CrimsonStorm : Not me.
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: limbocity : not me
Zelgius : I don't meditate, but I'm interested in meditating
? @PercyLucid: OK. Well
? quorthonafull : me too
CrimsonStorm : Yes, so am I.
? @PercyLucid: meditating has a bazillon benefits
? @PercyLucid: on the topic
? @PercyLucid: it increases lucidity
? @PercyLucid: and specially
? @PercyLucid: the lasting of your lucids
? @PercyLucid: when you meditate you slow your body down
? @PercyLucid: while meditating, it is possible to experience several alternates of conscious, but that is another whole world
? @PercyLucid: I have a particular technique
? @PercyLucid: that I love
? @PercyLucid: is it call the Breathing Technique
? @PercyLucid: it is the easiest meditation
? @PercyLucid: all you need to do is to close your eyes
? @PercyLucid: take a deep breath
? @PercyLucid: spend at least 5 seconds taking the breath
? @PercyLucid: then release the air, slowly, take 5 to 10 seconds
? @PercyLucid: when you release your air, visualize all your stress, waking thoughs, etc getting out of you
? @PercyLucid: there is a small hypnotic tech that I do like
? @PercyLucid: visualize a beach
? @PercyLucid: visualize yourself in the soft wet sand
? @PercyLucid: write your initials down, while you do, inhale
? @PercyLucid: then you will see the wave comming, hold your breath for 2-3 second while the wave comes
? @PercyLucid: exhale while you visualize the wave erasing your name and going back into the sea
? @PercyLucid: the process of the waves is similar to our breath
? @PercyLucid: that way it is easy to keep the count
? @PercyLucid: as counting seconds while youmeditate is not good
? @PercyLucid: once you get used to the timing
? @PercyLucid: you will just inhale and exhale without focusing on the beach
? @PercyLucid: (unless it relaxes you a lot, you can hold to it)
? @PercyLucid: you do not want to fall asleep while you meditate
? @PercyLucid: and there is not a certain moment to do it
? @PercyLucid: you can meditate for 10 minutes
? @PercyLucid: 10 minutes a day, will do wonders
? @PercyLucid: you can do more
? @PercyLucid: but do not go below 10
? @PercyLucid: we all have 10 minutes to spend on
? @PercyLucid: as you can see
? @PercyLucid: MILD is more of an art than a technique... it requires some work and time at the beginning, but this will become part of your lifestyle
? @PercyLucid: and your dream recall / lucidity will be very robust
? @PercyLucid: what do you think about this? any questions>
: limbocity : can you do it before sleeping?
? @PercyLucid: yes, in fact, it is good to add it
: limiTless : sounds awesome
: theking : Kinda pumped to try all this tonight
? @PercyLucid: after the chest technique
? @PercyLucid: you will do it
? @PercyLucid: not during a wbtb, but yes before going to sleep
: limbocity : sweetr
Spectrum : brilliant
: limbocity : without the r
: limiTless : i already know the chest tech, yay.
? @PercyLucid: mediation will enhace your health too... as we never take deep breaths... so you will be channeling your energy properly and doing something good for your body
? @PercyLucid: last thing
? @PercyLucid: when your meditation timing becomes stable (2-3 weeks with daily practise)
? @PercyLucid: you want to combite it with a full incubation
? @PercyLucid: that will do wonders... but not for now, please
? @PercyLucid: so, any questions on this?
? quorthonafull : on this no
CrimsonStorm : Nope, not really
? quorthonafull : I`ll read the log because I joined quite late
: limiTless : same
: limbocity : tut tut
? @PercyLucid: great! I hope you are enjoying this
: limbocity : yes! best class
? @PercyLucid: you need perseverance... I understand it is a load of work and sometimes is a bit frustrating, but remember
? Arbitror : Yeah, I was late too. I hurried here as fast as I could.
? @PercyLucid: all you do, goes to your archievement pool
? @PercyLucid: so if you get super-frustrated, just stop this technique for one day, give yourself a break
? @PercyLucid: and then go back
? @PercyLucid: all the incubations, chest tech, and mediations will add to your daily residue... so every day you increase a little bit the chances of lding
? quorthonafull : I had some delayers this week
? quorthonafull : emotional issues, fights with friends, and other things
? @PercyLucid: yeah, do not worry
? @PercyLucid: meditation will help a lot
? @PercyLucid: specially for those situations
? @PercyLucid: when you exhale quorthonafull
? @PercyLucid: focus on those thoughs coming out of you
Spectrum : I used to do the whole breathing thing before i went to sleep
Zelgius : Ahh this class so far seems the most overwhelming haha, I'm going to have to reread the logs a couple times!
? @PercyLucid: if you feel a little sorrow, bad filings can trigger
Spectrum : don't know why i stopped really
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid: but it is good
CrimsonStorm : Haha, me too!
? @PercyLucid: just get rid of them, if you are in sorrow and you need to cry, go ahead and do not feel bad
? @PercyLucid: meditation gets rid of the bad stuff, and sometimes you need to cry it out
? @PercyLucid: but you will feel rejuvenated afterwards
? @PercyLucid: and way better
: * limiTless ¦ cries
: * limbocity ¦ nosebleeds
* Spectrum ¦ pokerfaces
: limiTless : (no way, still?!)
: limbocity : lol no
: limiTless : good
? quorthonafull : lol
: limbocity : but i havent wiped the blood off yet
: limiTless : ew
Zelgius : That is disgusting.
: limbocity : anyway back to percy
Spectrum : :D
Zelgius : lol that was quite off topic.
? @PercyLucid: no problem
? @PercyLucid: we are over third class
? @PercyLucid: just one more
? @PercyLucid: on your workboos
? @PercyLucid: on your workbooks
Zelgius : Yay!
Spectrum : ahh shit
Spectrum : From now on
Spectrum : I'm gonna update it every day, i swear
? @PercyLucid: I want to track your WBTBs please
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid: and if you meditated or not
? @PercyLucid: be honest :)
? Arbitror : I will get back into it, but as said earlier, life's been just awful.
? quorthonafull : I have to catch the habit again
: theking : will do
: limbocity : will do
? @PercyLucid: well, it is understandable Arbitror, you specially want to meditate, it will do wonders to you
: limbocity : lol
? @PercyLucid: 10 mins a day is easy for each individual
? Arbitror : I hope so, but it's more of having truckloads of work than anything emotional.
? @PercyLucid: I know
? @PercyLucid: same issues as me, proably
: limiTless : i still cant incubate that gawddamn desert, but the chest technique was awesome the first time i tired it
? Arbitror : However, I crashed and slept for 13 hours last night. I recalled 5 dreams, more than ever, and it gave me my first LD!
: theking : I definitely meditate at night, but WBTB is out of the question during the week
? @PercyLucid: yep
? @PercyLucid: thanks to REM-Rebound
? @PercyLucid: it is not good though, because you lack sleep, but when you do not have other choice, it is welcomed
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Zelgius : Congrats Arbitror!
? @PercyLucid: I want you all
? quorthonafull : congratz arb
? Arbitror : Yeah, it's not fun. Lol. Thanks.
? @PercyLucid: to keep working on the dessert. If you stuggle, take a break one day
? @PercyLucid: Zelgius
? @PercyLucid: you will focus ONLY on the basic task
Zelgius : Darnit. I know this will be a really hard task for me.
? @PercyLucid: Receive an IM message from someone
? @PercyLucid: and then, the class is over! we went to a lot today!
Zelgius : How the heck do I put myself into a situation to reality check when it's something completely average!?
Spectrum : I'll see how it goes; i can probably do it most days
? @PercyLucid: last class will be fun, trust me L-DEILD is awesome
Spectrum : wbtb, I mean
? Arbitror : Get an Im in an apple?
: theking : Great!
: limbocity : yay l-deild!!!
? @PercyLucid: and thanks all for coming and working on your workbooks
Zelgius : Oh yeah I remember that from last weird hahaha
? quorthonafull : ok, thank You Percy for today's class
Spectrum : yeah, it's been great
? @PercyLucid: a pleasure quorthonafull
: limbocity : thanks!!
Spectrum : sorry about not updating my workbook; I kind of missed one or 2 days then i just let it slip
Spectrum : I've of course been updating my dream journal though
CrimsonStorm : Same here. I'll be better this week.
Spectrum : I'll get back into my workbook from tomorrow
Zelgius : I'll go post my last LD on my workbook as you wanted
Zelgius : Thanks so much for the class! Good night!
? @PercyLucid: thanks folks
? @PercyLucid: you can abandon the DVA now :)
: limbocity : grr now i have to study >:(
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? quorthonafull : bye guys
? Arbitror : Thanks Percy. Later guys.
: limbocity : thanks again for the class
? quorthonafull : stay lucid!
: limbocity : bye everyone
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: limiTless : looking forward to reading the first part, i wont miss next class. Thanks percy!
? @PercyLucid: will send log later
: limiTless : awesome. thxx
CrimsonStorm : Alright, thanks Percy!
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Session Time: Fri Oct 08 00:00:00 2010
Session Close: Fri Oct 08 00:58:16 2010
Class starts in 30 minutes!
Well, I think people mass confused with the schedules... so I postponed class #4 to:
MILD-1 4th Class Postponed due schedule confusion: NEXT CLASS - Wed, the 20th 6:00 PM PST (-8 GMT)
18:00:00 Wednesday October 20, 2010 in GMT-8 converts to
13:00:00 Thursday October 21, 2010 in Australia/Sydney
SADFACE :(
At least you don't have to get up in the middle of the night ;)
Oh yeah I bet that's worse lol. I'm sure waking up for class is pretty bad, but I wish I could attend at all.
Right then, I'm gonna get a few hours sleep now, then I'll be right there :)
Will the chat for Class #4 be up soon? I can't wait any longer!
Spoiler for Log for 4th Class:
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? @PercyLucid: perfect! I think people studied the first schedule and they got confused with the changes
? @PercyLucid: so, how did last week went!
: theking : yeah
: theking : haha
: theking : Ironically, I was sick and missed last week, panicked, then found out it was moved
? quorthonafull : I have some problems with WBTB
DawgBone : some near misses
: theking : I can incubate a dream, but I can't do much with it
: theking : =\
? @PercyLucid: what do you mean theking?
Spectrum : Hmm
: theking : like I've been trying to combine your goal with the Task of the Month
? quorthonafull : btw, I have to post my last lucid
: theking : so I'd focus my thoughts on a desert scene to fly over with a computer there waiting for me to communicate with people
: theking : without fail, I talk to people in a desert
: theking : nearly every dream over the past two weeks have been involving either a desert or talking to people
: theking : I just can't attain lucidity
? @PercyLucid: well, do not worry
? @PercyLucid: all the incubation will upkeep
? @PercyLucid: and your chance to turn lucid will increase
? @PercyLucid: on this class, I am going to share a technique
? @PercyLucid: it is a very reliable one but it has a big down
? @PercyLucid: some people from previous classes had some success with it
? @PercyLucid: and it is a variation from DEILD
? @PercyLucid: do you all know how DEILD works?
? quorthonafull : yeah
DawgBone : no
: limiTless : yes
? quorthonafull : I had some of them
: theking : not completely
? @PercyLucid: DEILD stands for: Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream
? @PercyLucid: basically, you want to wake up from a dream, and without moving nor even opening your eyes, you attempt WILD
? @PercyLucid: this will trick you mind and make it think you did not wake up at all, we are all visual animals, and as we do not move nor open eyes
? @PercyLucid: we will appear like we did not awake
: theking : I've done that before then
: theking : wow
? @PercyLucid: so your mind will rush to create another dream
? @PercyLucid: and you will fall fully lucid
? @PercyLucid: well, this technique is a lot harder than it sounds
? @PercyLucid: as you need to commit to not even moving an inch after awakening from a dream
? @PercyLucid: my technique
? @PercyLucid: it is somehow an upgrade of this one
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? @PercyLucid: and wayyyyyyyyy easier
? quorthonafull : great
? @PercyLucid: in fact, it has a 100% success rate, but it has a big problem
? @PercyLucid: specially for starters
? @PercyLucid: the technique is called L-DEILD which stands for Lucid Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream
? @PercyLucid: so if you did not guess yet
? @PercyLucid: you need to be in a lucid dream to do this technique
? @PercyLucid: that is the major problem
? @PercyLucid: but as you practise MILD and other techniques
? @PercyLucid: you increase the amount of lucids
? @PercyLucid: other good thing about this technique
? @PercyLucid: that you can turn your short lucid dreams into a long lucid dream
? @PercyLucid: and why is it easier?
? @PercyLucid: well, on a lucid dream your are fully conscious
? @PercyLucid: and you recall waking memores
? @PercyLucid: memories
? @PercyLucid: so, you want to start your DEILD from the lucid dream
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Spectrum : Aha
Spectrum : finally
Spectrum : I got in
Spectrum : server wouldn't let me join for a second
Spectrum : sorry about that
? @PercyLucid: when you are lucid and you feel you are goint to awake
? @PercyLucid: you just tell yourself to not move, to not open yours eyes
: theking : nice
DawgBone : interesting
: limiTless : sounds awesome.
? @PercyLucid: your lucid will end and you will feel awakening... you never lost consciousness during the process, so it will be very easy to fall in a second lucid
? quorthonafull : perfect for the summer, when I feel the sunlight bothering me almost every time I get lucid
? @PercyLucid: probably, you will see your dream vanish, a second later you will feel your body in bed and you will feel vibrations/sleep paralysis... just 4-5 seconds later, you will fall in other lucid
? quorthonafull : So, I think I've L-DEILDed a couple of times
? @PercyLucid: trust me... three of my MAJOR lucid dreams where I archieved major personal goals, came out from l-deilds
? @PercyLucid: for some reason, when you enter the second lucid dream
: theking : that sounds awesome really
? @PercyLucid: the clarity and vividness is a lot greater
? @PercyLucid: it is :)
? @PercyLucid: it feels awesome
? @PercyLucid: it has a 2nd advantadge
? @PercyLucid: you all know the magic rule of, "There more lucids you get, the more you will have" right?
? @PercyLucid: so, as we have more lucid dreams, we increase the chance of having more
? @PercyLucid: this technique will chain two REMs
? @PercyLucid: so you will get twice the lucid dreams
? @PercyLucid: I have to advice though
? @PercyLucid: do not chain over three dreams
? @PercyLucid: as you will forget the dreams if you go to greedy
? quorthonafull : because the recall problems?
? @PercyLucid: yep
? @PercyLucid: our minds will not hold that many dreams... even if they are lucid
? @PercyLucid: I chained once four lucid dreams with this technique
? @PercyLucid: from a 1st regular dream
: limiTless : oh wow.
? quorthonafull : awesome
? @PercyLucid: I forgot the regular dream entirely, the 1st lucid was recalled slightly, the 2nd 3rd were recalled about 80% and the 4th one in full
? @PercyLucid: and I spent over an hour and a half writting it all down... and like at 5am... was hard :P
? @PercyLucid: but I would not do that again
? quorthonafull : wow
? @PercyLucid: do you all know when you are about to wake up from a lucid?
DawgBone : usually
? quorthonafull : summertime, yes
: limiTless : yah. i think so.
: theking : I think so
? @PercyLucid: awesome
? @PercyLucid: you will need minimal control of this
? @PercyLucid: as soon as you feel you are waking up... do not try to save the lucid... trust this method
? @PercyLucid: tell to your self to not move nor open your eyes
? @PercyLucid: within 30 seconds you will be back in the lucid... right from the beginning
DawgBone : really interesting
Spectrum : Yeah, it's happened 3 times for me
Spectrum : sorry for late response, was distracted
? quorthonafull : lol
Spectrum : I actually once had a false awakening that way
? @PercyLucid: yeah
Spectrum : I was so convinced i was about to wake up that I actually believed I had while the dream was still happening
? @PercyLucid: right after a l-deild ALWAYS do a RC
? @PercyLucid: even if you think you failed, do RC... you might get a surprise!
: limiTless : lol
? @PercyLucid: now... that was the start technique
? @PercyLucid: it is very reliable, but you need to be lucid
? @PercyLucid: that is the biggest challenge
? @PercyLucid: but if you turn lucid, try to L-DEILD first... your first lucid will be shorter... 100% sure
? @PercyLucid: if you feel your lucid is super clear and fully control, then do not L-DEILD but if you feel is fuzzy and un-stable, try it out
? @PercyLucid: so, now
? @PercyLucid: well, I just realized
? @PercyLucid: we did go over meditation last class!
? @PercyLucid: how is your meditation going on?
: theking : awesome
DawgBone : om
: limiTless : the meditation is the only good thing i have going for me.
: theking : I used to have insomnia because I couldn't lear my head
? quorthonafull : not that good, but better than nothing
? quorthonafull : my main problem is with WBTB
? @PercyLucid: well limiTless... meditation is the foundation for all the spychic abilities, from Lucid Dreaming, to Clairvoyance, Astra Project
? @PercyLucid: or even to just de-stress you out
: limiTless : mhmm, de-stress has been nice.
? @PercyLucid: so if it is the only thing going good for you... it is great
: limiTless : XD yah
? @PercyLucid: so, theking, you said, you used, you do not have insomnia anymore?
Spectrum : Hmm
: theking : yep
? @PercyLucid: nice :)
Spectrum : I think it's going pretty well for me
: theking : without fair, when I start meditating on clearing my head
Spectrum : helps me to focus and clear my head a bit
: theking : it works
? @PercyLucid: so, know it is the best moment to ask questions! We have time, so, over EVERYTHING we reviewed
? @PercyLucid: about the entire MILD technique, do you guys have questions?
: theking : none
? quorthonafull : ...
Spectrum : hmm
: limiTless : not that i can actually think of.
? quorthonafull : I had problems with WBTB
DawgBone : none
? @PercyLucid: go ahead quorthonafull
? quorthonafull : I used to WBTB/WILD two months ago (zero success)
? quorthonafull : without major problems
? @PercyLucid: describe what do you do and where do you find issues, that might help all out
? quorthonafull : but now
? quorthonafull : I hear the alarm and unwittingly I turn if off and go bacvk to sleep
? quorthonafull : I tend to wake up later with the cellphone opened in my hand
? @PercyLucid: quorthonafull how about when you wake up from a dream, do you?
: theking : you may not be getting enough sleep
? quorthonafull : when I wake up from a dream I have no problems
DawgBone : How long do you try to sleep before waking?
? quorthonafull : like the monday
? quorthonafull : 4like 4.5 hours
DawgBone : right
: theking : hmm
: theking : I know I do that when I am sleep deprived
? quorthonafull : we are in summer (Argentina) so, if I wake up after 6 hours it's a bit hard to sleep again
? @PercyLucid: quorthonafull
? quorthonafull : ytes?
? quorthonafull : yes?
? @PercyLucid: then you should attempt WBTB when you wake up after a dream... pass on alarms... I hate the
? @PercyLucid: alarms screwes REMs and might break a lucid
? quorthonafull : ok
? @PercyLucid: try that, I am sure you will have a lot more success
? @PercyLucid: so, more questions?
Spectrum : still thinking :P
: limiTless : nope. this was a really fun technique to learn tho.
: theking : I had one
: theking : can you re-explain the chest technique - I missed that class and the chat log confuse me a bit
? @PercyLucid: sure
? @PercyLucid: so, with this technique you want to get rid of waking thoughts
? @PercyLucid: first, you will lie down in bed
? @PercyLucid: close your eyes and breath a few times
? @PercyLucid: if you can do the breathing meditation first, even better
? @PercyLucid: then, you will visualize a chest in front of you (this might sound silly, but do not skip, it does wonders on your subsconscious)
? @PercyLucid: can be a treausre chest made of wood or a hard box... does not really manner!)
? @PercyLucid: then, you will recall your most disturbing memories
? @PercyLucid: such as that test you have in two days, or that meeting with your boss last night... etc
? @PercyLucid: you will recall the waking memory entirely, and only focus on this memory.
? @PercyLucid: once you recall it entirely, you will visualize that memory being drawn inside the chest
? @PercyLucid: you will repeat this process until you do not remember anything else from the day
? @PercyLucid: well
: theking : nice
? @PercyLucid: you will actually remember
? @PercyLucid: but you already went through it
? @PercyLucid: it is a little hard at the beginning
? @PercyLucid: but it helps, specially, the subconscious
? @PercyLucid: once you deposited inside the chest all the memories
? @PercyLucid: close it and make it vanish
? @PercyLucid: you will probably still have your mind wander to waking memories
? @PercyLucid: but in a subconscious level
: limiTless : i find its really good to put everything into the chest EXcept one thing from my waking life that i want to dream about.
: limiTless : cause i have too much trouble with incubating..
? @PercyLucid: it does help a lot... and you work on waking recall, which increase all your recalls (so dream recall gets a benefit too)
? @PercyLucid: that is up to each individual :)
: theking : great, thanks!
? @PercyLucid: if you want to dream something from waking (such as speeding with a Corvette) then you will not deposite that awesome Corvette you saw on the freeway)
: limiTless : :)
? @PercyLucid: but all you do not need to think about, to the chest
: limiTless : LOL, i had a dream where my chest exploded, and everything bad i put in it shot at me.
Spectrum : Bwahahahahaha
DawgBone : Use a stronger chest next time
: limiTless : it was crazy, i wish i could have rc'd and turned lucid from it.
: limiTless : haha
? @PercyLucid: looool
? @PercyLucid: that was funny lol
DawgBone : :-)
: limiTless : :P
? @PercyLucid: convoque a stainless steel one next time :P
DawgBone : ha
: limiTless : yah, i have been using a metal one lately.
: limiTless : no more pirate treasure chests for limitless...
? @PercyLucid: hahaha
? @PercyLucid: nice :)
? @PercyLucid: so, any more questions?
: limiTless : nope.
: theking : none here
Spectrum : YES
? @PercyLucid: go ahead
Spectrum : well
Spectrum : could you go over the whole mantra thing again?
Spectrum : I'm kind of unsure about that, to be honest
? @PercyLucid: well, the tehcnique is more that an entire day rather than repeating a mantra
? @PercyLucid: however
? @PercyLucid: you do repeat a mantra to help too
? @PercyLucid: you want to use a mantra in PRESENT tense and not negative
? @PercyLucid: the subconscious does not understand the negative
? @PercyLucid: so saying, "I will not forget to do a RC"
? @PercyLucid: it is wrong
? @PercyLucid: you need to say it in present tense and positive
? @PercyLucid: "I remember to RC"
? @PercyLucid: so
? @PercyLucid: your mantra
? @PercyLucid: will be something like, "I lucid dream"
? @PercyLucid: other mantra that I do like
Spectrum : Hmm, ok
Spectrum : so I need to be saying it in the day as well as at night?
? @PercyLucid: is, "I will have a lucid dream tonight or very soon"
? @PercyLucid: this one is in future
? @PercyLucid: but you are setting a goal
: theking : lol
: theking : wow
: theking : I've been doing it wrong
? @PercyLucid: you want to set a goal to push yourself more... but the goal has to be reasonable
? @PercyLucid: "I will have a lucid dream tonight or very soon" pushes you to the limit "tonight" so forces your mind to work harder... but you also say, "or very soon" you are giving a break to your mind if you failed
Spectrum : hm, ok
: limiTless : *giggles about being pushed to the LIMIT*
? @PercyLucid: you do not want to push yourself too much
? @PercyLucid: failing a goal will frustrate you
? @PercyLucid: so this mantra will not force you to fail
Spectrum : hm, ok
? @PercyLucid: as every night you will have a "today" goal, but a "very soon" refresher
? @PercyLucid: I have a feeling you are not very convinced Spectrum :P
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? @PercyLucid: is there something wrong?
? @PercyLucid: if you have questions, please, ask :P
Spectrum : not that i can think of :S
frozenwolf : hey guys
? @PercyLucid: now is the best momento :)
? @PercyLucid: hi there frozenwolf
frozenwolf : has the class started?
? @PercyLucid: we are in questions and answers
Spectrum : you're an hour late D:
? quorthonafull : lol
? @PercyLucid: yeah lol
Spectrum : oh, I've got one more thing to ask
frozenwolf : sigh sorry percy thought I had the right time
frozenwolf : :/
? @PercyLucid: do not worry, sometimes happens!
? @PercyLucid: we are still on questions and answers
frozenwolf : ok
? @PercyLucid: so if you want to go over something, it is the right moment!
Spectrum : ok, I was gonna ask
Spectrum : in terms of dream recall, recently I've been uh, doing really badly
Spectrum : I really want to break out of it but I have no idea how
: theking : weird
: theking : me too
frozenwolf : same
: theking : in fact, my best recall was Monday when I was heavily sedated for an epidural
? @PercyLucid: I advised that the first day
? @PercyLucid: when major changes / goals happen
? @PercyLucid: you recall goes down
? @PercyLucid: now you are super focused on all the technques I shared
: limiTless : oh rite.
? @PercyLucid: that you are pushing yourself
? @PercyLucid: and decreasing recall
? @PercyLucid: but do not worry
Spectrum : That's true
? @PercyLucid: with the time, your recall will go up again
? @PercyLucid: it happened to MOST of my students on all classes, if not all
Spectrum : Ah, ok
Spectrum : thanks
Spectrum : :)
: limiTless : all my recall during this class has been waking life residue.. and thats only when i say screw it, i just wanna sleep. and dont do anything ld related before i pass out.
? @PercyLucid: yeah, do not worry on that
? @PercyLucid: yeah... I am in your situation limiTless... well, not really
? @PercyLucid: I was a few weeks ago
? @PercyLucid: with major changes in my business
? @PercyLucid: but now I am back to track again
: limiTless : ah, yah
: limiTless : well thats good.
frozenwolf : I'va had a similair problem
frozenwolf : I've
? @PercyLucid: so, any more questions folks? I will send the log frozenwolf so do not worry
frozenwolf : Percy must we still try to incubate the dream in the desert?
frozenwolf : ok thank you :)
? @PercyLucid: well
? @PercyLucid: you can try, or you can set other goals
? @PercyLucid: I will keep reading your workbooks
: theking : I've started doing a fire ball
? @PercyLucid: and in two weeks I will send the final exam :)
: theking : for Nomad's class
frozenwolf : ok
? @PercyLucid: nice :)
: limiTless : hopefully i'll get that in an email... i usuall do, if it will be on the MILD-1 thread
? @PercyLucid: yep :)
? @PercyLucid: well,thanks to all of you for assiting!
? @PercyLucid: I hope you enjoyed the classes :)
Spectrum : Yes!
DawgBone : Great class, Percy. Thanks so much!
? quorthonafull : No, thank to YOU Percy
: limiTless : i did XD thank you percy!!
? quorthonafull : for the amazing class
: theking : thanks, it was really useful for sure
Spectrum : Yep, thanks so very much
frozenwolf : thankc percy :)
Spectrum : I'm gonna stick with this
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Spectrum : I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE
: @WhosThatGirl : Excellent like usual, Fernando.
: limiTless : lol,
? @PercyLucid: thanks Alex :)
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? @PercyLucid: well, I will always be at DV
? @PercyLucid: more or less busy but I am around daily!
? @PercyLucid: so you can always PM
? @PercyLucid: and I will be happy to help out!!!!
Spectrum : thank you, oh invincible old master
? quorthonafull : like I say in other places...
? quorthonafull : chau gente, nos vemos
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Spectrum : gonna go and update my workbook now with all those exciting dreams I haven't been having lately
: limiTless : thanks percy, ttyl when we get the quiz...
Spectrum : see you soon :)
? @PercyLucid: great! see you around folks!!!
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••• ¦ WhosThatGirl es ahora Alex
Session Close: Wed Oct 20 19:24:57 2010