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I've never watched the Matrix, and I never intend to.
But I've seen my fair share of this funny picture:
http://www.orble.com/images/agent-smith-matrix1.jpg
I know it's from the matrix.
So, who is the loon? And why does he have that psychotic grin on his face?
Watch The Matrix. Find out for yourself.
Just watch the movie? Though Inception beats it by far, it's a good movie dreaming-related.
Nah, I don't watch R rated stuff.
Is it a difficult question to answer? I only want to know why he is standing in front of a disarrayed cupboard, looking like he just blew up a country.
If it were released today, The Matrix would probably get a 15 rating or less.
The worst thing about it is the violence, and all of that is stylized and comic, not gorey. It's way tamer than all the violent horror films kids see nowadays... it's not even in the same ballpark, it's a mystery why it was rated so highly in the first place.
Watch it for Chrissakes, it's one of the best philosophical movies of all time; the script and direction are very good. 'I never intend to watch the Matrix' is one of the silliest statements I've ever heard. Why not?
The picture is of Agent Smith, who is a renegade program trying to gain ultimate power. I think in that picture he's just assimilated a precognitive program. Which is good for him.
Choosing to not watch it is to cheat yourself out of a worthwhile experience.
I didn't know opinions could be wrong prior to reading this.Quote:
Originally Posted by LucidApprentice
Inception can't beat it, The Matrix isn't even a movie about dreaming.
Anyways, just because a movie is rated R doesn't mean it's filled with blood, guts, sex, drugs and rock 'n' roll. The Matrix is really tame, it's like Hello Kitty compared to the internet; go watch it. If not now, make it damn soon.
Just watch it. There is a sex scene and some weird dance scenes with lesbians grinding in the second movie, and a lot of people were wondering why the hell we even needed that scene. Generally, the first movie is really good, the second movie is a little off and the third movie is just weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
Watch the movie. It's one of the most awesome movies ever made (in many humble opinions), and it's tame as all hell. There is hardly any blood, and I don't even think there is an "F-bomb" dropped anywhere in the entire movie. This forum has miles more adult content than that movie.
And yes, the picture is of Agent Smith. He's the main antagonist of the movie. He was a program that was generated to help keep the human race in line, but he has, since, broken free of his obligations, and is now out to take over the "world", as its most powerful entity.
The picture is actually from Matrix: Revolutions, which is the third (and worst, unfortunately) movie in the series.
I thought the second and third were both very bad. The first one is great though and I don't understand it being R rated... ?!?
I thought the second had an interesting plot.
The Animatrix is a much better addition to the franchise though, I thought.
I actually like the second one - mostly for the outstanding action sequences - but nothing really compares to the first, for me.
Ditto, on the Animatrix, though. I love how much those stories opened up the Matrix universe.
The original had the best plot, but the second movie had the best (BEST) fight scenes (Neo vs the Smiths, highway scene, etc.) The third one was a let down and the ending was vague and unsatisfying.
Inception = awesome
Matrix > Inception
Nuff said
Well, thanks for nothing people. At least Oneironaut answered the question.
@all of you
If what marvo says is true, then this film is not "tame" by any stretch of the imagination.
I wonder what you consider offensive. :shudders:
What's offensive about people having sex? And in the dance scene it's just two girls dancing up against each other. Also, there's none of this in the first movie. It's fairly clean and mostly just people fighting like total ninja bosses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
I actually like all three movies and the animatrix, though the first was the best, completed the story, and didn't need sequels.
@Noogah Like Oneironaut said, I've seen way worse stuff on this forum. Heck, I see worse stuff on the news. If you can't stomach the Matrix, you might as well go blind and deaf, because you're going to have a tough time in the real world.
Grow some balls and enjoy life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
I answered it first you wanker.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
If Marvo says the second film has a sex scene then the first film isn't tame? wtf is wrong with you, everybody has told you that the first film is fine, there's no sex and it's no more violent than Eagles dropping boulders on orcs or talking Lions eating people's faces off.Quote:
If what marvo says is true, then this film is not "tame" by any stretch of the imagination.
I wonder what you consider offensive. :shudders:
In other news, people have sex. Do you find it offensive that you were conceived? What's wrong with sex in fiction; is there something wrong with sex in reality? You'll find plenty of people get raped in the Bible, why isn't that obscene?
I'll pray for you man :shudders:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
What everyone else has said.
Ah, sorry. You're on my ignore list, so I sometimes don't catch what you say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
Well, I don't have a problem with using the bathroom. And, if a book says, "Gabe got up and used the bathroom" then I am perfectly fine with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
But if a movie showed somone sitting on the toilet pooing/peeing, I would be thoroughly disgusted.
Plus, I'd bet you a bunch of money that whoever they were weren't married to each other, and I believe you know where I stand on that issue.
I thought that such a scene was also in the first film, but apparently I misunderstood. So, you can cool down now. No need to blow a gascket.
In the end though, I just don't watch R rated films. Yeah, reality has lots of garbage in it, but I watch movies/read books to escape garbage, not get an extra dose of it. There are plenty of good non R rated movies out there, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much.
Thanks for the answers Xei and Oneironaut.
Here you don't have to rent it cause this is easily the best scene.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dROyIwJ8_wE
Pssht, that's nowhere near the best scene.
Your face is nowhere near the best scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black_Eagle
Machete- Easily one of the best Mexploitation movies I've seen. Cheesy over the top action. Tons of blood. A storyline better than most action films. It's the movie Robert Rodriguez should have made for Grindhouse.
That's agent smith and he's a creeper
watch the matrix its an awesome movie
Why? Sure, actually seeing excrements is not a pleasurable experience, but seeing a person just sitting on the pot, I don't see how that's offensive or disgusting. It might be a little comical though. There will nearly always be a scene in all cop movies/tv series, where two colleagues are talking to each other while in the men's room, for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
The Matrix takes place many many years into the future, and all religion has been abandoned in the real world, though it still persists inside the Matrix (the virtual world). Only one or two spiritual persons are actually seen in the real world, and they just believe some kind of hoodoo voodoo thing. Also, spoilers, them having sex is essential to the survival of the human race, so skipping formalities such as marriage is necessary.Quote:
Plus, I'd bet you a bunch of money that whoever they were weren't married to each other, and I believe you know where I stand on that issue.
If I remember correctly, you should be 14 or 15 by now. If you think sex is garbage, then I don't know what the hell.Quote:
In the end though, I just don't watch R rated films. Yeah, reality has lots of garbage in it, but I watch movies/read books to escape garbage, not get an extra dose of it. There are plenty of good non R rated movies out there, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much.
... wrong thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by Akono
Well, no. I wouldn't mind a shot of someone sitting on the toilet. But if we are to keep an accurate analogy here, you would see everything, and you would see the excretement occur. That: is disgusting and uncivilized.Quote:
Why? Sure, actually seeing excrements is not a pleasurable experience, but seeing a person just sitting on the pot
So then, they have an excuse for breeding without being married. Fair enough.Quote:
Only one or two spiritual persons are actually seen in the real world, and they just believe some kind of hoodoo voodoo thing. Also, spoilers, them having sex is essential to the survival of the human race, so skipping formalities such as marriage is necessary.
However, they still don't have to show it actually happening.
I don't think that the concept itself is garbage.Quote:
If you think sex is garbage, then I don't know what the heck.
However, it is a private thing, and should be kept private. Not displayed on a huge theatre screen in front of a bunch of people.
Now, for me, as a Christian, I have more reasons.
It's more than just private. It's special. Sacred.
It's something sacred to be kept between one man, and one woman. That was how it was created to be. Displaying it happening on screen for anybody to watch cheapens it, and will very likely end up causing lust. Yes, it probably will. And, lust is a form of adultery.
But you don't believe any of that, so...
Anyways. I don't want to turn out a huge debate here.
This is the way I feel, and I couldn't, with a good conscience, watch an R rated film with a ton of swearing and violence and nudity.
As this implies, as a Christian, the Holy Spirit dwells within me. I have a responsibility to keep myself clean. If I can avoid seeing nudity, swearing, and gore, then I will.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ephesians 2:21-22
I say gore rather than violence, because for me, personally, I can handle violence, and I don't think it is one of my weaknesses.
But, if you can do it, then good for you.
It's still funny that you're calling sex 'garbage', but thanks for saying thanks anyway.Quote:
In the end though, I just don't watch R rated films. Yeah, reality has lots of garbage in it, but I watch movies/read books to escape garbage, not get an extra dose of it. There are plenty of good non R rated movies out there, so I don't feel like I'm missing out on much.
Thanks for the answers Xei and Oneironaut.
Hahaha...Quote:
Well, no. I wouldn't mind a shot of someone sitting on the toilet. But if we are to keep an accurate analogy here, you would see everything, and you would see the excretement occur. That: is disgusting and uncivilized.
Dude, some day in a few years you're going to look back at these posts and squirm with embarrassment, I swear.
On what are you basing your 'knowledge' of sex scenes if you've never seen one? I feel sorry for you, you've clearly been exposed to some extreme propaganda, fearmongering and lies from your mentors.
Sex scenes don't 'show everything'. The idea that a sex scene in a mainstream movie would explicitly show penetration as you seem to believe will be found absolutely hilarious by virtually anybody else your age, I guarantee you.
There's a difference between Hollywood and porn for chrissakes. In virtually every sex scene in mainstream movies the worst thing you're going to see is breasts.
It's pretty clear to me that the people who are supposed to be looking after you are sheltering you from living a decent life with complete lies. Please try to start expanding who you listen to and forming some proper objective opinions rather than eating up all this shit you're being fed by those in your immediate vicinity.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...pillMatrix.png
You want the one on the right, Noogah.
It seems I shall have to resort to quoting myself:Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
In fact, I even said...Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
...so can we move on now? Or will you make me explain myself again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
...well, I'm assuming it's a scene of two people having sex, hence "sex scene". I've never actually read anything specifically on the topic, nor has any "mentor" of mine ever addressed it. It seems rather self explanatory to me. I mean, are you telling me that this is not what it is...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
And that's nudity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xei
And to what I've read on movie review websites (which I often read), there seems to be an awful lot of this "worst thing you're going to see" popping up in movies nowadays.
But, your point is taken. My analogy isn't a perfect one.
However...
For it to be called a "sex scene", I think it's fair to assume there's going to be more in there than I want to see of it. That's all I'm saying.
The worst I want to see in a movie is kissing. If it goes beyond that, then it isn't something I wish to see.
You people seem to think I'm controlled by what others tell me. That may be how it works in the public schools, but it isn't how I work. My primary "mentor" is God, and his word. I usually take what people say with a grain of salt until I have researched it myself, and you would be surprised if you knew how much I differ from my Christian peers.
A "sex scene" isn't actually a scene with sex in it, it's just to people lying on top of each other, sometimes without clothes on, sometimes showing boobs. Theoretically it's as much a sex scene as if you read it in a book.
I agree with Xei. When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works.
You are severely limiting your options when it come to movies, films and pictures. Now... a lot of Religious art has nudity and what not in it.. I'd get some examples, but I don't think the Mods would like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah
I don't understand what what you find so freaking offensive about sex. Its natural and nothing to be disgusted about.
Man I hate religion for this exact reason
Go find out for yourself. ;D
And just because a film is "R" rated, doesn't mean it should be R-rated... I saw the Matrix when I was thirteen and loved it. If you still don't believe me, go on imdb and look at the parental advisory. Nothing scarring at all, not even for you.
lol.
I'm so afraid that I'll have to wait twenty some years for a movie to crush The Matrix from being the greatest movie ever. Inception is nowhere near as good, as great, as brilliant as The Matrix...
and ye +1 @ "When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works."
Well, yeah :? What DO you consider that?Quote:
A "sex scene" isn't actually a scene with sex in it, it's just to people lying on top of each other, sometimes without clothes on, sometimes showing boobs. Theoretically it's as much a sex scene as if you read it in a book.
In any case, it's definitely nothing I wish to see.
Well, respectfully, you and Xei are quite wrong. I strongly disagree with including sex/nudity in public performances, including movies. In no way does this imply that I will have a difficult time "facing how this world actually works". :rolleyes:Quote:
I agree with Xei. When you grow older, you're gonna have a hard time facing how this world actually works.
You know what I do instead? I don't watch R rated movies with sex/nudity. In fact, just to be safe, I don't watch R rated movies. Bingo! Problem solved.
Nonsense. There are many many many many many non R rated movies/films/pictures/books/media/etc. without explicit content. And more are made all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSparta
And if, in the end, there is none after-all, then hang films/books and media. I can live a very comfortable life without them. I won't compromise morality for entertainment.
I know. And it isn't any art I enjoy.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSparta
You know what? This is getting old. I'm going to quote myself for the second time, and please actually take the time to read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSparta
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Originally Posted by Noogah
I have. It's the first place I went to. And there is quite a bit of offensive stuff in it. And IMDB parental guide isn't even a very accurate source. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Puffin
This thread has served it's purpose, so I'm requesting a lock.
Good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noogah