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U.S. appeals court tosses injunction limiting indefinite detention | Reuters
NDAA is back on the table, folks. Game on.
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While we weresleepingdistracted...
U.S. appeals court tosses injunction limiting indefinite detention | Reuters
NDAA is back on the table, folks. Game on.
New World Order is not mentioned in this. It's about a U.S. government with way too much power and secrecy.
The person who posted this on YouTube said that the conspiracy hype title is just for attracting viewers. The speaker makes very realistic points about things that really are happening and discusses how the citizen underground and bloggers can bring back the Constitution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dhGDf-k3g4
I don't know about NWO, Illuminati, etc., but I do know that my country is turning into a police state. This video talks about realistic solutions.
This intense focus on "Whistleblowers", secret courts allowing the government to shred the 4th amendment, non-disclosure agreements that Benghazi survivors were forced to sign - is it just me or does this administrations want absolute control over the flow of information - they want all the data they can possibly get on the American people (and everybody else), but they don't want us knowing anything about what they're doing behind closed doors. Transparency my ass - it's more like a one way mirror, you know, like the police use in interrogation rooms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX6_QWieZlU
WTF America... Police sound like Nazis now, saying "It's legal.."
I think...what if, they can make the breathalizer tell you that you are drunk and it's wrong?? So they can take blood from you, and when the breath test says you are drunk the cop will say that he/she is, and really he/she isn't. Does anyone see that happening and setting people up? You know with all the advanced technology of course they can fake your ass. So if you refuse blood sample they do this to you and force.
Technology is used against us now.
I don't think the breathalyzers are fake. But I think at the very least the police could explain that if you refuse to take a breathalyzer test then you're going to be strapped down to a table and have blood forcibly extracted. I think most people, given the choice, would choose the breathalyzer.
But even if they did explain the choice, the fact remains that you no longer have the right to refuse to be tested in the states that implement this. The attitude we're seeing more and more from police and government is "we don't care about the freedoms of Americans, we're gonna fill the prisons".
It feels like 1930s-50s all over again, in those times everyone had to act a certain way and dress a certain way. They put commercials on TV to teach people how to be nice and dandy family/people. Don't do anything rash or show any emotions. Such a boring society! but i loved the music and movies lol
I got this email earlier, and I forwarded it to everybody in my contacts list. I also sent the letter to my representatives.
Friend,
This is the real deal: As the NSA spying revelations continue to unfold, we increasingly find ourselves facing the reality that -- at any moment -- the federal government could be listening to our phone calls, watching our email traffic, keeping tabs on our Internet browsing, or worse.
But now we have our first real chance to fight back.
Please click here to demand that your lawmakers end the spying -- there's a critical vote this week.
http://act.demandprogress.org/letter...6hR7R&rd=1&t=1
On Wednesday Reps Justin Amash, John Conyers, and others will offer an amendment to defund the NSA's broad-based domestic surveillance.
We have a chance of winning this vote and sending a shockwave through Washington, DC -- and, critically, we also have an opportunity to get our lawmakers on record. We'll finally know who supports spying on Americans, and who opposes it.
This is a huge opportunity -- and we don't know when we'll have another one like it. Please help us make the most of it.
Click here to tell your lawmakers to end the spying by voting for the Amash amendment this week.
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Astute observation, and you're not the first person to notice this pattern. In fact, there's a book called "The Fourth Turning" (published in the 90s), which hypothesizes that American history (and Western more generally) goes through a 4 generation cycle of approximately 80 years. Within this cycle there are 4 main periods of time, each about 20 years: crisis, high, awakening, unraveling.
crisis: The socioeconomic system has fallen apart and America is in a state of total war, either at home or abroad. This is when the old political order is completely obliterated, and the new one is forming. Examples: Revolutionary War, Civil War, depression and WW2. The last crisis was around 1929 - 1947.
high: A time of returning to normalcy, peace, and total conformity. But the economy is doing quite well. This is the 1950s to early 1960s
awakening: The economy is churning along, but the total conformity of the high has caused a spiritual crisis in America, and a new religious order is created. Examples: both "Great Awakenings", and the Consciousness Revolution / Hippy era. The last one took place from about 1967 - 1985.
unraveling: The awakening causes great complacency, and the economy begins to spin out of control but no one notices. All social and economic systems are grinding to a halt, but there is no political will to change the system. Warfare slowly becomes more common but it isn't total. The economy seems to be teetering. "Crumbling" is the best word to describe just about every institution in existence. This was 1985 - 2007.
And now we're back in the crisis. The economy is destroyed, the government has become openly tyrannical, and everyone understands that war is inevitable. Judging by previous crises, the total war will be about 10 years after the beginning of the crisis, so around 2017. My guess is that it will be a second American war of secession.
Yes i always had keen observation.
Taxes Fund $444 Million NHL Arena In Bankrupt Detroit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOWpSsxp33E
I know this thread is about America, but the problems seem to be worldwide.
Rich businessmen seem to be stepping all over peoples rights, with help from local governments.
For example
A business in the UK wanted to open a site for fracking of gas.
A vote was held beforehand to get the opinions of all the local people.
83% voted with a big NO.
This made no difference whatsoever to the outcome.
We now have protesters at the site trying to prevent the unapproved drilling from taking place.
You guessed it. They are being arrested, and taken away.
Just out of curiosity, how many of you consider the US to now be a police state?
Saw that follow-up question coming, right after reading the first. :)
Do you believe that the term 'police state' is so specific that it cannot be used to define both North Korea and the (emerging?) state of the U.S.?
Police State: A police state is a state in which the government exercises rigid and repressive controls over the social, economic, and political life of the population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Police_state
If we are not there yet (which is arguable, at least), then I would say we are on the threshold. I would further say that the intention is there, and that we are just a few short Public Relations hurdles away from full-blown totalitarianism. I honestly do not think there is any real 'moral or ethical code' keeping us from descending into a blatant dictatorship. I think doing so would be a PR nightmare, and might actually lead to revolution, because those people who are so easily quelled by the creature comforts we are fed to keep us docile, wouldn't have that as a deterrent. So, the powers that be must calculate what steps to take toward that end, without rocking the boat too far, along the way.
I think there's an enormous difference between what I'd consider a real police state (NK) and the United States. So much of a difference, I say, that calling the US a police state is unjustifiable exaggeration. It may look like one in comparison to the American tradition of individual freedom (though even that comparison is questionable), but to reasonably ascertain whether a country is a police state, the country needs to be compared to other states, not just its own historical tradition. None of us would be legally holding this conversation if the US were actually a police state. This forum would probably be blocked as well, for all I know.
Just glancing at the wiki article you linked, you can see Freedom House's survey of world freedom. The US isn't even considered "partly free." Similarly, the Press Freedom Index has the US on the side of "less restraints."
Does the US violate rights? Yes. Are things going in the wrong direction? Yes. Is it a police state? Not even close. Calling it that dilutes the meaning.
I don't completely disagree with that, but my focus is more on the idea that the U.S. is gradually becoming a police state. In many ways, it is a "police state" (emphasis on the quotations) in the sense that we seem to be going about the setting up of a police state in a way that is somewhat fresh and innovative. It is the difference between "1984" and "Brave New World". The two narratives outlined government control with the same overall goals, but with completely different methodologies.
Whereas 1984 was a brutal, in-your-face, telling of an overt police state, Huxley believed that such a heavy-handed rule would not work in such a modern society, and that the police state would be most-likely prosperous if it operated under the guise of an 'opt-in' society. "Brave New World" tells the story both from the side of those citizens who live in this great, fantasy world of opportunity, and the side of those behind the scenes who know that such a civilization of 'choice' is really a facade for a means to keep the population under control and working for the collective.
So, I think to focus on the fact that the US may not be a de facto "police state" undermines the 'police state culture' that is being cultivated within the US, albeit much more slowly and methodically. In short, it feels like you're saying "Is it a real police state yet? No? Then don't worry about it." And I would completely disagree with that sentiment.
By the way, check this out:
Court Says No Warrant Needed for Cellphone Info | TIME.com
A commie police state. The US is more like a corporationy police state. Europe is kinda like a welfarey police state, and China is a cheap plasticy police state. What do I win?
Most modern states today are much more similar to each other and to Nazi Germany than the states of 100 years ago. It's an illusion to think there's much difference between the US and any other McDonald's colony. If you doubt that, watch a movie in the Bourne franchise. No matter where you go in the developed world, you get the same basic SS gestapo fucks running around. They just have different letters.
People should know this so i put this.... Attachment 5299
Big Brother Searches Family For Googling 'Pressure Cooker'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-3V29E-QhY