Shocking and definitive proof of what dreams really are

WHY DREAMS THEORETICALLY, ULTIMATELY, AND ACTUALLY UNIFY PHYSICS: PROOF THAT DREAMS ARE NOT A CREATION OF THOUGHT.

Dreams make thought MORE LIKE sensory experience in general, thereby improving upon memory and understanding. Accordingly, dream experience is interesting/fascinating, extremely important, educational/informative, and FUNDAMENTAL/FOUNDATIONAL BECAUSE it is consistent with/applicable to the following great and fundamental truths:

1) The ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is ULTIMATELY dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience.

2) The self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. DREAMS INVOLVE THE FUNDAMENTAL EXPERIENCE OF OUR GROWTH AND BECOMING OTHER THAN WE ARE.

Clearly, thoughts are integrated and interactive in (and with) our experience of feeling and touch. However, thoughts are also detached/different in relation to other experiences as well. This is why thought is not vision/visual experience. Thoughts are invisible. Thought best describes sensory experience when space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Indeed, the ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is ULTIMATELY dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience. The self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience.

Television is fully similar to (or FULLY LIKE) thought. Now, thoughts are detached/different in comparative relation to visual experience. Therefore, teleVISION is a creation of thought that is ELIMINATED/flattened in comparison with what would otherwise be/constitute the naturally integrated and interactive distance in/of space in dreams and in waking experience. Accordingly, television is DETACHED from touch. Moreover, television does take the real/actual form and manifestation of ELECTROMAGNETISM. THIS CONSTITUTES PROOF THAT TV IS A VERY SERIOUS AND REAL PROBLEM.

We are alive in/with dream experience in conjunction with what is the linked, separate, and FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. This does involve an essential mastery of physics (i.e., a fundamental equivalency and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism) AND physical experience (including experience as it is seen, felt, AND touched). Dream experience is semi-detached from touch, and half inertia and HALF GRAVITY are involved. (FULL GRAVITY, in our waking experience, is full distance in/of space.)

Dream experience is that of the MIDDLE distance in/of space in keeping with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Dreams are also accurately described and understood as emotional experience. Indeed, emotion that is comprehensive and balanced advances consciousness. Becoming "one with the music" is linked with the fact that emotion that is comprehensive and balanced advances consciousness. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. We all grow from the center of the human body. Relative to waking experience, dreams do involve a proportionate reduction of both thought and feeling. Emotion is BETWEEN (and in the MIDDLE of) thought and feeling. Dreams are not a creation of thought. I have proven this definitively. Our "experts" did/do not know what dreams are. I HAVE PROVEN THIS.

DREAMS INVOLVE A FUNDAMENTAL INTEGRATION AND SPREADING OF BEING, EXPERIENCE, THOUGHT, EMOTION, FEELING, TOUCH, AND SPACE. INDEED, DREAMS ADD TO THE INTEGRATED EXTENSIVENESS OF BEING, EXPERIENCE, TOUCH, THOUGHT, EMOTION, FEELING, AND SPACE IN AND WITH TIME.

Why do/would the modern, mainstream, academic, theoretical physicists, the academic dream theorists, the governments, and the beneficiaries, proponents, and advocates of television continue to evade and deny the facts and truths of what I have clearly and undeniably proven here? Well, who currently has, and desires to continue to have, authority here? More problems, more unnatural experience, more stupidity/ignorance, and more lies mean more money and more governmental intervention/size. The business of making money and excess profits (i.e., that of changing experience from what is natural, including power and control over experience, thoughts, and people) is apparently far more important than truth, reality, facts, great/proper/correct thinking, people, free experience, labor, our autonomy, our rights, our freedoms, our health, our growth, our privacy, independent and free thinkers, our children, the future, our self-sufficiency, and our FREE, extensive, integrated, enjoyable, desirable, sustainable, healthy, and natural experiences.

Please, your comments and questions are quite welcome. Thank you. THIS THREAD IS BIG NEWS INDEED.

By Author Frank DiMeglio

I think your theory of dreams is dependent on a dualist notion of the self as immaterial from which the experienced world extends, and also on the belief that idea precedes matter, rather than a materialist-empiricist framework. Therefore I would contend whether your theory is scientific at all, as it does not apply the methodology of physics.

Would this thread better fit in philosophy, or even beyond dreaming?

Citations? Are there studies backing any of this up? It looks like a lot of interesting thoughts and assertions, but I don't see any proof of anything. It is intriguing though. I suspect you'd need to develop it into something with a lot more explanation, like a book, before people will be able to parse it all. Too much of what you say is just thrown out there with no explication. I'm sure you've thought it all through in much greater detail but you should provide more of that background thinking for others.

Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. The ultimate unification of physics combines, balances, and includes opposites. I have provided clear, ample/sufficient, and reasonable proof, evidence, truths, and facts in my thread.

First of all, the facts are the facts. What I have presented here in not groundless and speculative theory. Indeed, it is very far from it. The physicists have never quite explained inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing. They admit this. This is ALSO clearly explained/proven by this thread.

Are you this Frank DiMeglio?

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This book presents original and fascinating ideas regarding consciousness, life, being, experience, thought, emotion, desire, depression, anxiety, dreams, art, music, and genius. This book is an attempt to achieve a superior understanding and true growth of our being, desire, instincts, and of our consciousness in general (including thought, attention, and memory).

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Please understand, Im not just trying to say you're wrong or anything, but to outright state that the few paragraphs you've presented here constitute proof of anything just makes you come across as rather arrogant. A little modesty goes a long way toward getting your thoughts accepted and examined more realistically - like the phrases I bolded in the blurb above. If you had used terms like that to introduce your theories you wouldn't be getting the kind of reactions you are now.

If your statements really do reflect scientific knowledge then why not add citations and links to further reading on the subjects? You can hardly expect people to just accept the statements you're making on your say-so.

Your sensationalism, the fact that you're here to promote your future book, the fact that you cite no research, the fact that you use caps (no, it doesn't make you sound smart at all), only contributes to the image of a person without real knowledge on what you're saying. I took 2 minutes to research you, and behold, this is the kind of argumentation the OP uses when he's talking about any subject:

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We cannot (and do not) experience outer space. Because, do (and can) we actually/really/truly, fully/directly (including seen, felt, and touched), experience outer space AS IT IS? The answer is no.

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Circular Reasoning at it's best.

Also, there's a sense of authority (without any proof that he knows what he's talking about) that shows up constantly on his blog. Some examples:

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MY NEW BOOK IS REQUIRED READING ON THESE SUBJECTS.
Moreover, the new book clearly constitutes a major, important, fascinating, and fundamental advancement in our understanding of physics/physical experience.
The book is destined to be a best seller.

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And then again:

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All of this is clearly (and more fully and completely) explained in my new book (coming this summer). DonnaInk Publications.
This book is going to be a HUGE seller. AND, the book contains ALOT more ! !

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Also, I don't know what's your intention, but it seems you're being intentionally dense and confusing on the exposition of your ideas: that steals value from whatever idea you're trying to sell, especially because you don't develop any idea at all, and commit several fallacies along the text (which by the way, is being spammed around the internet). I'll not even bother commenting on the argument themselves...they look credible, but that's merely because they have no substance at all.

I am Author Frank DiMeglio. My full name is Frank Martin DiMeglio. What matters is the content of what I have written here. Discuss only what is written here in this thread.

Stick with the facts. We are not here to exchange drama and personal insults. I am not here to play games. I am a very serious thinker.
Moreover, the facts are the facts, regardless of who comes up with them. We know this.

Additional and important proof is now provided as follows:

Full inertia is outer space. That is, it is the elimination of experience and thought by our very inability to actually/directly/truly/really experience outer space AS IT IS.
There is weightlessness, the space is black, and we are not touching anything. THINK ABOUT IT. It all makes sense.
Outer space precludes and destroys our being, thought, and experience. Accordingly, our ability to understanding outer space is significantly limited.

Dream experience involves half inertia and half gravity because it is that of the MIDDLE distance in/of space (seen, felt, AND touched).
The space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance.

Dream experience fundamentally, ultimately, generally, actually, theoretically, and naturally unifies and balances gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism and physics/physical experience (including seen, felt, AND touched).

Dreams fundamentally involve and balance the important relation of something and nothing.

Importantly, dream experience is potential/possible AND actual.

Notice that emotion IS manifest (and differentiated) as sensory experience and feeling.

During waking experience while standing, FULL GRAVITY is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. We always begin with simple, natural, typical, ordinary, and foundational/fundamental experience(s) in establishing physical fundamentals/truths. What is of concern here is the range of feeling/touch. (Notice that gravity cannot be shielded.)

Now, and VERY IMPORTANTLY, the maximum of feeling/touch/force/energy that is ACTUALLY experienced in dreams IS HALF of that in comparison to waking experience while standing. This constitutes excellent, fundamental, undeniable, and fundamental PROOF of what I have successfully demonstrated.

The caring and intelligent reader will diligently consider all that is written in this post IN ADDITION to my prior posts and thread.

I have all of the proof, facts, and truths that I need. This is clear. I have proven it.

ITT: Poorly informed self-promoter shouts recycled Platitudes.

Sufficient and reasonable proof, facts, and truths have been provided HERE (in my replies along with this thread) in support of my conclusions.

This thread clearly merits serious, substantial/meaningful, informed, thoughtful, significant, and intelligent discussion.

Delusions of Grandeur wafting about..

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Ok first, this is very/extremely/insanely HARD TO READ. I do not know how you chose/decided to write LIKE THIS.

It's like trying to read a terms of agreement except less of a definite structure.


Now onto the actual points. You say half gravity alot, and you use it to 'prove' your theory that is also ultimate and actual (?) when you never even define what half gravity is. Most physics people hear gravity and go "oh ok, must be acceleration" but I don't believe that is what you mean by it, please explain....

You throw around alot of physics terms thinking it will help with your argument, one of the main culprits is electromagnetism. I really hope you know what electromagnetism is since the way you use it makes absolutely no sense.

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Moreover, television does take the real/actual form and manifestation of ELECTROMAGNETISM. THIS CONSTITUTES PROOF THAT TV IS A VERY SERIOUS AND REAL PROBLEM.

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Television USES electromagnetism to work, cause you know... it's AC, which means that it's sending out electromagnetic waves... that do stuff which has nothing to do with my well being or thought.

Also you say television is a very serious and real problem because it is 'fully similar' to thoughts except they are 'flattened'. I have no idea what you mean by flattened but television is no where near thoughts. Going into your confusing world, television takes on only 2 of the 5 senses (ESP not being considered) while the real world engages all 5 of the senses, and thoughts are not engaging any really.
Like you said thought "best describes sensory experience when space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance." When TV is doing ONLY visual and hearing, how can these two things be even remotely alike??


Now you really have to work on your writing, and remember THIS IS NOT A TERMS OF AGREEMENT and WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR LOOPHOLES TO GET MONEY, so this whole paragraph here.

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Why do/would the modern, mainstream, academic, theoretical physicists, the academic dream theorists, the governments, and the beneficiaries, proponents, and advocates of television continue to evade and deny the facts and truths of what I have clearly and undeniably proven here? Well, who currently has, and desires to continue to have, authority here? More problems, more unnatural experience, more stupidity/ignorance, and more lies mean more money and more governmental intervention/size. The business of making money and excess profits (i.e., that of changing experience from what is natural, including power and control over experience, thoughts, and people) is apparently far more important than truth, reality, facts, great/proper/correct thinking, people, free experience, labor, our autonomy, our rights, our freedoms, our health, our growth, our privacy, independent and free thinkers, our children, the future, our self-sufficiency, and our FREE, extensive, integrated, enjoyable, desirable, sustainable, healthy, and natural experiences.

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Could be turned into "Why do the modern official people continue to evade and deny the facts I have clearly proven here? Well, who currently desires to continue to have authority here? More problems and more lies mean more money. The business of making money is apparently far more important than truth."

You can see that these both will do the same job, except my version is easier on the eyes and I didn't use words that mean the same exact thing.

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There is weightlessness, the space is black, and we are not touching anything. THINK ABOUT IT. It all makes sense.
Outer space precludes and destroys our being, thought, and experience. Accordingly, our ability to understanding outer space is significantly limited.

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Outer space isn't actually black... it just has no matter floating around for light to bounce off of.

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Dream experience fundamentally, ultimately, generally, actually, theoretically, and naturally unifies and balances gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism and physics/physical experience (including seen, felt, AND touched).

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You can't say theoretically and actually to describe the same thing. It literally contradicts each other. It's like saying you believe that toast is brown and that it is also a fact that toast is brown, when it really is just that you're wearing tinted contact lenses that make you believe that. Horrible example but I really hope you get what I mean, you can't just say theoretical to sound fancy and sophisticated.

I think the fact that you're trying to convince us of what's simply a theory without solid evidence and saying that your words without any sure scientific backing whatsoever is "proof" enough for what you're trying to say, says less that you're here to share what you think or know and more that you're just here to try to get everyone to buy your book and/or follow your ideas.

I don't mean to insult, but honestly if you expect someone to believe something you say you at least need to back it with something else, something more solid than just your own word. We want citations and research and evidence and studies behind this, not the certain 'proving' word of someone who sounds more like they're trying to sell something. Very few people will actually fall for the latter, and the ones who do will still most likely approach it with some sort of skepticism or want to research further on it. It's rather arrogant if you expect everyone to believe you based on what you've told us so far, we don't know you and we can't rely on what you've said, of course people are going to ask for more information.

So with that being said (sorry for the rant), do you have citations? Research? Studies, anything? If not, your theories, whilst intriguing, remain simply unproved.

No - I don't want anything "backing this up" or references or whatever - there is nothing to be backed up.
This is seriously pathological thinking - trying to conjure up meaning out of empty word-shells - driven by a manic sense of ultimate revelation.

But anyway - valiant effort PKJacker - can't see it doing any good, though..

Well.. I have to agree with everyone else, that Frank might need to take it easy with the "proofs" and "truths". But I hope that this thread will develop more into a exchange between everyone's thoughts about the subject here eventually. Because I like to hear more about this theory. And PKJacker you made some good point's about the writing. I couldn't agree more, even if I write pretty messy myself sometimes.

^ A nice sentiment but since this thread started like an episode of Jersey Shore I don't hold much hope for it suddenly turning into Scientific American or Nova. Besides, when you really think about any of his statements, they just don't make any sense at all! Blather and gibberish.

Unless he comes up with an awesome definition of half gravity and full gravity, I doubt this thread will develop into anything useful.

Seems like he has given up this already. Maybe the theory wasn't much to discuss after all..

VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body. Dream experience involves gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Dream experience involves fundamentally equivalent and BALANCED middle strength FORCE/ENERGY/FEELING/TOUCH consistent with what is half inertia and half gravity and the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space (including seen, felt, AND touched). During waking experience while standing, FULL GRAVITY is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. We always begin with simple, natural, typical, ordinary, and foundational/fundamental experience(s) in establishing physical fundamentals/truths. What is of concern here is the range of feeling/touch. (Notice that gravity cannot be shielded.)

Now, and VERY IMPORTANTLY, the maximum of feeling/touch/force/energy that is ACTUALLY experienced in dreams IS HALF of that in comparison to waking experience while standing. This constitutes excellent, substantial, fundamental, undeniable, clear, and foundational PROOF.

It all makes sense. This entire picture is consistent, complete, and clear.

There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

Position AND position relative to distance in/of space are BOTH united here. This is necessary for inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing.

It's not that I'm fussy about things. But isn't equilibrium and balance pretty much the same thing?

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(Notice that gravity cannot be shielded.)

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I dont think that anyone except those who have been experienced weightlessness for real, could avoiding gravity in dreams. And since the majority of people have never felt anything else except gravity in different variations, then I believe that the brain just work with what it have been experience before. wich is, gravity in different variations.

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Now, and VERY IMPORTANTLY, the maximum of feeling/touch/force/energy that is ACTUALLY experienced in dreams IS HALF of that in comparison to waking experience while standing. This constitutes excellent, substantial, fundamental, undeniable, clear, and foundational PROOF.

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I just wounder what it is you see as important to what? And what is this proof you talking about? I dont try to contradict you here. but Im just woundering what kind of point you want to make clear with all this? Is it that we dont fully perceive feelings/touch/smell etc etc, or what is to your theory that is so revolutionary to you?

To claim any scientific proof it must go through the scientific method.

Steps of the Scientific Method:

• Ask a question
  
• Hypothesis
  
• Prediction
  
• Testing
  
• Analysis

Dreams themselves can't go through the scientific method. I guess you can do some scientific experiments on someones physical brain to get some results. However, it certainly would effect everyone differently. Having a theory is different then having actual proof. You can't have actual scientific proof of something if it can't go through the scientific method.

For example string theory is just that; a theory. We can't apply the scientific method on it. However the theory is based on current evidence.

Can your proof go through the scientific method without fail? If not it is a theory. Nothing wrong with having a theory. :D

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Dream experience grows/increases, as dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. Indeed, dreams add to the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, thought, emotion, feeling, desire, intention, concern, and space in and with time. Notice here that the integrated extensiveness of thought is improved in the truly superior mind. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

There is no doubt that we came alive in conjunction with the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. Moreover, obviously, our experience, growth, and survival were ongoing/continuous. Accordingly, dreams experience is linked with waking experience; and yet it is separate. Notice that dream experience goes to waking experience, and waking experience goes to dream experience as well. In dream experience, we may remember waking experience; or we may not be aware of waking experience while dreaming.

It is undeniable and clear that dream experience and waking experience are linked and separate.

Dreams involve an essential and fundamental mastery of physics and physical experience.

Finally one can start to understand you better Frank. And your writing is much easier to read now.

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Accordingly, dreams experience is linked with waking experience; and yet it is separate. Notice that dream experience goes to waking experience, and waking experience goes to dream experience as well. In dream experience, we may remember waking experience; or we may not be aware of waking experience while dreaming.

It is undeniable and clear that dream experience and waking experience are linked and separate.

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Well as I understand, what you are talking about is nothing new. But, it is of course intersting matter to think and talk about. Another example to simplify this idea could go something like this: Love is one thing in it's own, but it is still dependent of hate to be function as love. And vice versa. So love and hate is integrated, and one of them could not be with out the other. So it is two different things, but still the same. It's like yin and yang. And so are dream and waking experince, they improve each other.

How can you say, there is exactly half the gravity in dreams?
There is as much gravity as I choose to dream of - and nope - gravity works just fine in normal dreams - and I can have it at different levels in LDs.
You can't measure anything in dreams - it's all your imagination! *Sigh*.

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How can you say, there is exactly half the gravity in dreams?
There is as much gravity as I choose to dream of - and nope - gravity works just fine in normal dreams - and I can have it at different levels in LDs.
You can't measure anything in dreams - it's all your imagination! *Sigh*.

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I hear many people saying that when they try to run or punch in dreams, it feels like they are doing so in syrup or in slowmotion. And it's often the same for me to, in normal dreams. It happens though, that I can move faster in a regular dream to, but it's more unusual for me. But in a LD, then I can choose as you say. I see LD's as normal dreaming to of course, but whit a nice twist to it.:) But I can also agree with you that "half the gravity" is kind of hard to grasp.

Yeah - sure - gravity can behave in strange ways - in all dreams - but in several degrees of intensity/strangeness.
To build even a pet hypothesis on the premises that in dreams there would be exactly half of it - is delusional.

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I hear many people saying that when they try to run or punch in dreams, it feels like they are doing so in syrup or in slowmotion.

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Moving slower doesn't equate with less gravity - if anything it would mean more. But when I have those dreams it doesn't feel like I'm heavier, just that I can't move fast. And how does flying work into this half gravity equation? This is just silly.

StephL yeah I agree with that.

Darkmatters. Im not trying to push any theory here just so you know, just in case you might think that I am. So yeah sure, it might be silly to make any "true" statement of gravity in dreams.

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And how does flying work into this half gravity equation?

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I dont know either, but try it out then.:P

Sorry, my statements were really aimed against the OPs ideas (not to justify them with terms they don't deserve like hypotheses). Your statements just started me thinking along those lines.

What I meant by that last part was that if we can float around almost weightlessly in dreams that would have to be much less than half gravity. More like maybe 1/1000th? Not sure. But again, it doesn't really feel like I'm lighter weight necessarily, just that I can float around. I mean it's a freaking dream - gravity is totally imaginary - how could you talk about it as if there's actually any gravity or physical bodies for it to act on? (not meaning you Dreamybear.. )

I think OP likes to hype his books by stirring up controversy - going for viral effect, and all we're really doing is helping him by continuing this conversation. This isn't even remotely worth discussing obviously - I'm outta here!

No needs to apology Darkmatters:) I would not make any statements on gravity either, since it changes all the time in dreams:P Well I get the same feeling as you to, that he might want to sell he's book. But I dont think that this thread has been or is any good comercial for his book so far. Probably the opposite. I do still hang around here because Im curious about what he might think is so revolutionary about his theory. My guess is that he might got over excited about something that's already common knowledge, only that he see's it in his kind of way and think of it as something new. Just as many others do when they learn something new.

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How can you say, there is exactly half the gravity in dreams?
There is as much gravity as I choose to dream of - and nope - gravity works just fine in normal dreams - and I can have it at different levels in LDs.
You can't measure anything in dreams - it's all your imagination! *Sigh*.

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Well here's the quote from him explaining half and full gravity.

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Now, and VERY IMPORTANTLY, the maximum of feeling/touch/force/energy that is ACTUALLY experienced in dreams IS HALF of that in comparison to waking experience while standing. This constitutes excellent, substantial, fundamental, undeniable, clear, and foundational PROOF.

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I don't really believe this really, most of the times in my dreams I don't feel a thing, but then those couple of times like when a dragon bit my arm and stuff, I defiantly felt the full force of it, waking me up. I have no idea how force and energy is half, since there is no energy except for the neurons firing off in your brain producing heat energy.

I really/actually want/desire to understand/comprehend your theory but it's difficult/arduous when you can't choose/specify one possible/sufficient word/term to use/write and instead present/include two.

I am completely capable of seeing through your word choice into whatever you're trying to say but it's distracting to read through all the synonyms. I got that terms are very interchangeable in this type of discussion and likewise take semantics with a grain of salt.

Hey Frank. If all your explanations was all about this statement

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In short, dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

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Why dind't you just say so from the beginning?? Because this does at least make your theory clear now. With what you have been wanting everybody to understand from the start. This phrase is the only thing you been saying so far that make some actual sense. but this idea you have about dreaming is probably the most common understanding that people have about dreaming. We sleep and dream to recover from waking life, wich make us able to "grow".

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It is quite clear.

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Given that everybody else cannot understand your posts, perhaps you might want to question whether this is really the case? Just an idea?

Darkmatters - interesting idea - he might try to go viral by stirring controversy.
I do not believe that - his thinking is too much in disarray.

Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. The space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This IS the middle distance in/of space. This involves balanced and equivalent inertia, electromagnetism, and gravity. This involves BALANCED and MIDDLE force/energy/feeling/touch. My full position is stated/given in what I have already written in this thread. It is quite clear. Dreams involve balanced and equivalent attraction and repulsion. Notice here that VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body.

In dreams, we are alive (and conscious, obviously) in conjunction with what is the linked, separate, and FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

In short, dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

Now, again, this is clearly true. Moreover, I have already provided extensive, various, consistent, comprehensive, important, fascinating, and fundamental/foundational truths, facts, and proofs of same.


THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC DISCUSSION/THREAD.
by Frank DiMeglio

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How can you say, there is exactly half the gravity in dreams?
There is as much gravity as I choose to dream of - and nope - gravity works just fine in normal dreams - and I can have it at different levels in LDs.
You can't measure anything in dreams - it's all your imagination! *Sigh*.

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HALF GRAVITY IS CONSISTENT WITH THE EXPERIENCE OF THE MIDDLE DISTANCE IN/OF SPACE. Think about it please, and consider my ENTIRE position in this thread (and in my subsequent posts here). Also, half gravity is involved with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Think of BALANCED half gravity seen, felt, AND touched. Notice that vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body.

Dreams involve the FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

Hey Frank. I dont know if you have noticed that I and others have been responding to your very unimportant and totally nonscientifc thread here. But you start to sound more like a spam-bot now, so one start to wounder if you are okey or if things starts to getting over heated for you. Since you like repeting your self, I might do the same to you. So you hopfully get the message. You stated this

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In short, dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

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This is old news man... sure there is tons of stuff to learn about dreams. But this summary has a quite low WOW-factor to it since this is all your theory comes down to.. I think is time for me to leave this now. May at least your mind be with you Frank. And give your self some vacation from thinking for a while now, you deserve it.;)

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Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. The space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This IS the middle distance in/of space. This involves balanced and equivalent inertia, electromagnetism, and gravity. This involves BALANCED and MIDDLE force/energy/feeling/touch. My full position is stated/given in what I have already written in this thread. It is quite clear. Dreams involve balanced and equivalent attraction and repulsion. Notice here that VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body.

In dreams, we are alive (and conscious, obviously) in conjunction with what is the linked, separate, and FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

In short, dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

Now, again, this is clearly true. Moreover, I have already provided extensive, various, consistent, comprehensive, important, fascinating, and fundamental/foundational truths, facts, and proofs of same.


THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT SCIENTIFIC DISCUSSION/THREAD.
by Frank DiMeglio

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As a writer I have to stop you again. Why use both fundamental and foundational? Just pick one. I lied though, even if you picked one it wouldn't make your argument any clearer cause I still have no idea what you're talking about.

Dreams do connect our conscious and unconscious mind, and are fundamental to processing our experiences, this thread far from introduces that concept, but I'm curious how that relates to attraction and repulsion or what the hell you mean by saying thoughts are invisible when I think in pictures all the time. I tried reading your OP but it doesn't really connect any of this in a fluid fashion. Another part of writing is understanding the flow of the subject from point a to Turkey Biscuits.

I find dreams very interesting, and there is a lot that we don't know about them.
Of course, one shouldn't jump to conclusions just because one "wants" to believe in something - but on the other hand, the purpose of science is not to decide what is possible and not possible, its purpose is to test theories and see if they have any credibility.
So if dreams seem to function in a way that is hard to explain, for example the speculations that people might to some extent share dream experiences or even receive information from waking life, then this is something that could be worth researching.
Some people rely too much on the science as it is known today, and automatically dismiss everything that sounds alien as "absurd" and "nonsensical", and that's a big mistake.
In fact, Robert Waggoner himself once stated that in the future we might consider matter, energy and consciousness to be different forms of the same thing!
That was a very intriguing idea.

What is Reality?

Reality (in varying degrees, of course) pertains to the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, thought, emotion, feeling, vision/visual experience, touch/tactile experience, and space.

Ultimately (and importantly), truth, reality, and nature/natural experience go hand-in-hand. Balance and completeness go hand-in-hand.

The integrated extensiveness of thought (together with what is accurate, consistent, and comprehensive description) is improved in the truly superior mind.

Dream experience is essential/necessary and fundamental to the integrated, extensive, realistic, truthful, proper, accurate, and complete/full description and understanding of being, experience, thought, feeling, emotion, visual experience, tactile experience, physical experience, physics, etc.

There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

Dreams ADD to the integrated extensiveness of being, experience, thought, emotion, feeling, touch/tactile experience, visual experience, and actual physical experience in and with time.

Dream experience is possible/potential AND actual.

Dreams involve fundamentally balanced and stabilized distance in/of space. Now, the ultimate understanding and unification of physics/physical experience involves tactile experience, visual experience, AND feeling/felt experience.

Yo, do you have a theory/believe in shared dreaming? :D

The ultimate, theoretical, and proven unification of physics/physical experience


Dream experience involves fundamentally balanced and equivalent gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism.

Accordingly, the space is visible and invisible in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This IS the experience of the MIDDLE distance in/of space, and this is consistent with the experience of half gravity and half inertia as well. This involves fundamentally balanced MIDDLE strength force/energy/feeling/touch. There is a maximum of half or middle force/energy/feeling/touch in dream experience in comparison with waking and standing experience. Again, FULL GRAVITY is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched in our waking experience while standing on the Earth/ground. Think about it. Consider the range of feeling/touch. Carefully consider that VISION/VISUAL EXPERIENCE begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body. DREAM EXPERIENCE IS THAT OF THE MIDDLE DISTANCE IN/OF SPACE consistent with visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Dream experience is semi-detached from touch.

Dream experience naturally, fundamentally, generally, ultimately, theoretically, and actually unifies physics (gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism) and physical experience (including seen, felt, AND touched). Being alive (and conscious, of course) in conjunction with what is the linked, separate, and FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are necessarily AND theoretically involves an essential and fundamental mastery of physics/physical experience. I have proven it.

Dream experience is consistent with the great truth/fact that the self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. If the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. Dream experience involves the FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

Definitive proof of why dream experience is extremely important and fundamental


There is no doubt that we came alive in conjunction with the fundamental EXPERIENCE of our growth and becoming other than we are. Moreover, obviously, our experience, growth, and survival were ongoing/continuous. Accordingly, dreams experience is FUNDAMENTALLY linked with waking experience. Waking experience goes to dream experience, and dream experience goes to waking experience. This is hugely significant. How is this possible? What does this involve/mean? How is dream experience possible/potential AND actual experience?

Dreams involve the FUNDAMENTAL experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. It is not a theory. It is a fact. I have proven it. The dictionary definitions of what dreams are have to be changed.

The proper/accurate, consistent, FUNDAMENTAL, and comprehensive/full understanding AND description of what dream experience really and actually is (and of how it is constituted/possible) simply or basically wasn't there.

THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT DISCUSSION/THREAD. PLEASE READ AND VERY CAREFULLY CONSIDER ALL THAT I HAVE WRITTEN HERE.

Huge News in Science !!!!

Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. The ultimate and fundamental experience (and the ultimate theoretical understanding) of physics/physical experience (seen, felt, AND touched) would involve our being conscious/alive in conjunction with the FUNDAMENTAL, linked, separate, and ultimate experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Indeed, the ultimate understanding and unification of physics does combine, balance, and include opposites.

Dude I'm trying to understand what you've written here. It's the definition of argument by verbosity; you're throwing in as many words as you can and I still can't seem to find any substance. Your thesis seems to be this: Dreams allow us to grow through turning abstract thoughts into sensory data. Is this correct?

FrankDiMeglio, what you're saying reminds me of the Time Cube theory.

Have you ever read about it? You can find information at www.timecube.com.

Pretty fascinating, right? What is your expert opinion on this?

It's possible to disprove OP's theory in a level-headed manner without resorting to rude or dismissive comments like:

"Delusions of Grandeur wafting about.."
"ITT: Poorly informed self-promoter shouts recycled Platitudes."
"facepalm.png"
"This is seriously pathological thinking - trying to conjure up meaning out of empty word-shells - driven by a manic sense of ultimate revelation."
etc.

Just point out the holes in the theory and move on, there's no need for negativity. .-.

I agree with Gavin,

Just wrote an extent on a blog of some complete stranger that was debunking a scientist with 100% ad hominem attacks. Seriously, 100%. It didn't even mention the science except in quotes. Ad hominem is just counterproductive and leads to knee-jerk reactions and loads of bickering as this blog suggests. The fact that it has now come to entire arguments based on people's backgrounds is worrisome to me so I think is an important point to get across.

^^ Though I do generally agree with your sentiment, Dthoughts, it must be said here that Mr. DiMeglio might have bought his own ticket.

From his OP and its claims to his odd non-responses to valid follow-up questions, DiMeglio has opened himself to ad homina, I think.

If you look carefully, the bulk of the arguments against OP were about content, and only became a bit more personal after people started noticing that OP's marketing interests clearly eclipsed his scientific od philosophic interests.

I think Mr DiMeglio might have been asking for any abuse cast on him this time... indeed, the ad homina might actually be a logical conclusion to the OP and its subsequent "support." This thread was clearly about DiMeglia, and getting people to buy his book; set that sort of standard and you deserve, without complaint, any abuse you might get.

The IMPORTANT and fundamental relation between dreams, television, and waking experience (while standing)

1) How is television possible, and why does it take the actual/real physical form or manifestation that it does?
Television is a creation of thought, as television is fully similar to (or fully like) thought. Accordingly, television is fully detached from touch; it IS electromagnetism; and the distance in/of space is ELIMINATED/flattened.

2) Dream experience is not a creation of thought. Dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general (including visual, of course), thereby improving upon memory and understanding. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space. Space is semi-detached from touch.
Dream experience involves fundamentally balanced and equivalent inertia, gravity, and electromagnetism. This involves half inertia and half gravity.
Dream experience involves invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. That IS the middle distance in/of space. Think about it.

Most importantly, dream experience is possible/potential AND actual.

3) Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched in waking experience (while standing). Space is not detached from touch.

It is a great truth/fact that the ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is ULTIMATELY dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience (including visual, of course). This is true in the case of both dream experience and television. However, there is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

What we have here is definitive, precise, accurate, ample, and clear proof of what is a vast, super important, and extremely foundational/fundamental unification of physics and physical experience. That is clear.

Now, television is at the possible/potential end of the spectrum of experience that involves (in a balanced fashion) dream experience at the center. Waking experience may be held to be at the actual end of the spectrum.Most importantly, dream experience is possible/potential AND actual. This unification of physics/physical experience is clearly proven.

This sequential and fundamental relationship, as indentified herein, constitutes (in its entirety, that is) what is the greatest, the most important, the most fundamental/foundational, the most tangible/substantial, the deepest, the most extensive, and the most meaningful/significant unification of physics and physical experience that has ever and will ever be achieved.

by Author Frank DiMeglio

Btw if you didn't notice yet, there are no new points in Frank DiMeglio's argument, he is just making some points clearer by bolding some words.

I still have a problem with the equating of television with thought, since you clearly called thought a non visual experience, when television is mostly visual. Also I don't exactly understand what you mean by it flattening space unless you're talking about how it displays images in 2 dimensions instead of 3 dimensions, and while this could have a point, 3D television would kill this statement since you are now able to see television in that third dimension.
Although you still do not have the experience of touch and gravity.

But then touch could really just be an illusion, since you watching things from behind a glass window gives you the same amount of touch factor as a television does, of course you could go on the other side of the window and touch the objects, but what is to say that you don't have that same thought about what is being displayed behind the glass television screen?

I personally have a problem with using television as an example at all, be it literal or metaphoric... seems so 1960's to me.

I'm beginning to get the impression that Mr. DiMeglio is not answering any of our questions at all, but rather just updating the various websites on which he's posted his advertisements. Of course I could be wrong, and would welcome Mr. DiMeglio proving as much by posting a direct ansewer to the many queries presented to him on this thread. What do you say, Frank? How about a couple of straight answers, sans caps, bold, slashes, and robotic syntax?

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I'm beginning to get the impression that Mr. DiMeglio is not answering any of our questions at all, but rather just updating the various websites on which he's posted his advertisements. Of course I could be wrong, and would welcome Mr. DiMeglio proving as much by posting a direct ansewer to the many queries presented to him on this thread. What do you say, Frank? How about a couple of straight answers, sans caps, bold, slashes, and robotic syntax?

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He sometimes quotes a person and replies to them indirectly, but most of the time it's too hard to understand who exactly is he replying to, or what the reply is exactly.

Like earlier in the thread he gave a definition of half gravity, but it didn't really help much since everything is quite vague.

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I personally have a problem with using television as an example at all, be it literal or metaphoric... seems so 1960's to me.

I'm beginning to get the impression that Mr. DiMeglio is not answering any of our questions at all, but rather just updating the various websites on which he's posted his advertisements. Of course I could be wrong, and would welcome Mr. DiMeglio proving as much by posting a direct ansewer to the many queries presented to him on this thread. What do you say, Frank? How about a couple of straight answers, sans caps, bold, slashes, and robotic syntax?

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I got this impression as well but I can't seem to find proof yet. So far this scribble is really impenetrable though, I don't understand how a potential reader would digest it, so you'd think constructive criticism would be appreciated. Bold, caps and slashes are actually augmenting the obscurity, though I have a feeling Dimeglio thinks the reverse.

Dream experience also proves true/real and ideal quantum gravity theoretically

Thoughtfully/conceptually, seen, felt, AND touched dream experience involves balanced force/energy/feeling/touch in conjunction with what is the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Now, the space is semi-detached from touch/tactile experience. Space may or may not involve touch/tactile experience in dreams. The connection that involves dream experience with both television and waking experience (while standing) is clear.

Carefully consider this when reading my last post.

When I write about the ultimate significance and importance of all that I have written in this thread, do bear in mind that we are talking about fundamental physics here (gravity, inertia, electromagnetism, observer, observed) in addition to the FUNDAMENTAL experience and fundamental understanding of physical reality as it is seen, felt, and touched.

Also, true/real, extensive, and ideal quantum gravity is demonstrated in dreams, as gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism are fundamentally equivalent and balanced. This is in keeping with half inertia and half gravity and with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Without a doubt, I have successfully demonstrated quantum gravity in/as dream experience. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. I have proven this with extensive, complete, consistent, comprehensive, various, sufficient, and clear proofs, truths, and facts/evidence.

Notice that dream experience may almost instantaneously transition to, or switch over to, waking experience.

Yes, now it seems obvious to me that, with a couple of extremely blurry exceptions, Frank is not actually participating in his own thread. All we seem to get from him is another incomprehensible billboard littered with still more caps, slashes, bold. No answers to direct queries, no explanation for the incessant error-ridden repetition of relatively simple and commonly understood concepts. It all seems very mechanical.

Respectfully: what's the story, Frank?

Thoughts are thoughts. Visual experience is visual experience. Thoughts are invisible. Thoughts are not visual experience. Television is a creation of thought. That is clear. Television has serious and considerable adverse effects. That is clear. The visual experience of television is fully similar to (or fully like) thought. As a creation of thought (sight and sound) that is fully similar to (or fully like) thought, television clearly is a serious problem. I have fundamentally proven this. Think about it.

3d is further proof of the fundamentally linked or related nature of dream experience.

Dream experience is relatively flattened. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space. Distance in/of space is eliminated/flattened in the visual experience that constitutes/comprises television. I have explained why.

You have to very carefully read, consider, and comprehend all that I have written in this thread.

Also, true/real, extensive, and ideal quantum gravity is demonstrated in dreams, as gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism are fundamentally equivalent and balanced. This is in keeping with half inertia and half gravity and with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Without a doubt, I have successfully demonstrated quantum gravity in/as dream experience. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. I have proven this with extensive, complete, consistent, fundamental, comprehensive, various, sufficient, and clear proofs, truths, and facts/evidence.

Have I not proven quantum gravity, and ultimately so? Yes, I have. It is clear.

Readers, please make your questions and responses as important, carefully and thoroughly considered, fundamental, meaningful, and significant as possible. Thanks.

Here's a thought: We could just let this thread die.

If the similar posts by the same author on various science and autism forums are anything to go by, nothing will come of it. It seems to be a novel mix of advertising and trolling.

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Dream experience involves invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. That IS the middle distance in/of space. Think about it.

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I'd like to but there is nothing to think about. Trying to think about this sentence is like trying to understand crop circles.. With more relationships to crop circles since the aliens who made them never physically respond. Maybe OP is an alien because he seems to be out of reach and is only willing to reply to questions by placing similar crop circles. :P

OP still didnt give his opinion on shared dreaming so lost interest here.. Sageous' i do agree. OP asked for the Ad hominem in this thread. But it is an exception. I like the fact that you point it that he's trying to sell his book. I hadn't even considered this.. Which does also make me more wary about the intentions of new-agey charlatans. My comment was more or less a responde to the generally agressive attitude displayed here on DV.

He may be an author, but he's an authority on muddled thinking!
I think he might be related to this guy;
Stanley Unwin (comedian) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Except he was funny and actually made more sense!

"3d is further proof of the fundamentally linked or related nature of dream experience."

3d what? television? Imagery? reality?
linked or related to what?

Sorry, but the only proof I see is that you are living in a very weird dream world my friend!

Definitive proof of a double unification of gravity and electromagnetism

Dreams involve the fundamental and ultimate unification and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism (including seen, felt, and touched). This involves invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance, as this is the middle distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Half inertia and half gravity are present. Moreover, I have extended this unification to include [full] gravity (seen, felt, and touched in our waking experience while standing) and [full] electromagnetism (in the experience of television). Dream experience is possible/potential and actual.

I have fundamentally, ultimately, generally, naturally, theoretically, and actually unified physics (gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism) and physical experience (as it is/including seen, felt, and touched).
I have definitively and theoretically proven and demonstrated true/real quantum gravity in/as dream experience.

Science news does not get any bigger than this.

* Sigh *

Robophilosopher is still at it.

Newton believed that inertia must be a property of space itself Frank DiMeglio fundamentally unifies inertia and gravity. Huge news in physics ! !

Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. In dreams, the space is visible and invisible in fundamental equilibrium and balance in keeping with what is the middle distance in/of space (consistent with half inertia and half gravity) as it is seen, felt, and touched. It is quite simple and clear now that I have explained it. Comparatively, outer space is full inertia; and the Earth/ground is full gravity (again, in our waking experience while standing). Think ! !

Some of the readers here are trifling with small details that have them derailed from the full, basic, and proper understanding of what is presented here. There are no problems to be found here that will invalidate this unification. I can assure the readers of this.

Position and position relative to distance in/of space are both united here. I have fundamentally and truly unified gravity and inertia.

This is the most important discussion that can be found anywhere when it comes to what is the full and proper understanding of dream experience.

This is the most important and most fundamental discussion that can be found anywhere in physics, as I have truly and fundamentally unified physics/physical experience for all time.

Readers, act intelligently, thoughtfully, and respectfully in a mature and serious/caring fashion. This is a super important discussion.

Oh look, more!

And apparently we readers are triflng by asking questions...

Has anybody gotten curious and tried to figure out who this guy is, or what exactly his spamming program is trying to sell?

Why television (sight and sound) is a type, form, or manifestation of what must be held to constitute a hallucination.

I have fundamentally proven that television is a serious problem. Also, the fundamental link/connection with dream experience is clear.

Importantly, hallucinations are basically unintentional; and they are often terrifying. For the viewer, television is both an unnatural and a basically unintentional experience. Moreover, television is fully detached from touch.

As a creation of thought that is fully similar to (or fully like) thought, television is (on balance) an entirely intentional visual experience/creation. This is in keeping with reducing and controlling experience, of course; as television is known to be addictive. (Addictions narrow and reduce experience.) Importantly, thoughts are (or may be) intentional; and they are shifting and variable as well. Think about it please. This is very important.

Television is already known to involve considerable adverse and interactive/integrated effects. I have fundamentally established why this is so (at a very basic and extensive level).

Readers, please read all that I have written here in my posts. Thanks. Comments and questions are welcome.

After reading/skimming through this page I have found/discovered that Frank can only reply to your comment/post if written in precisely his format. It is fundamental/foundational you do so. You must mention time/distance of/electromagnetic propulsion for your comment to have any validity/merit.

^^ So, Frank is just a program?

Clear and plain proof that any reasonable person can understand that dream experience proves true/real and ideal quantum gravity theoretically and actually.

Thoughtfully/conceptually, seen, felt, AND touched dream experience involves balanced force/energy/feeling/touch in conjunction with what is the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Now, the space is semi-detached from touch/tactile experience. Space may or may not involve touch/tactile experience in dreams. The connection that involves dream experience with both television AND waking experience (while standing) is clear.

Notice the range of feeling/touch that is (comparatively) present in waking experience while standing. Now, we all originate AND grow at/from the center or MIDDLE of the body. Dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space (seen, felt, AND touched) in keeping with half gravity and half inertia and invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Notice that VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body. It all makes perfect and complete sense.

When I write about the ultimate significance and importance of ALL that I have written at this thread, please bear in mind that we are talking about fundamental and theoretically ultimate physics in dreams (half gravity, half inertia, electromagnetism, observer, observed) in addition to the FUNDAMENTAL experience and fundamental understanding of physical reality as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Full inertia is outer space. Full gravity is the VISIBLE Earth/ground. Think about it please. Indeed, notice the maximum of BALANCED MIDDLE or half strength feeling/touch/force/energy in/as dream experience. Moreover, emotion is even in between (in the middle of) thought and feeling. The proof of quantum gravity is clearly presented.

True/real, extensive, and ideal/theoretical quantum gravity is demonstrated in dreams, as gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism are fundamentally equivalent and balanced. This is in keeping with half inertia and half gravity and with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Without a doubt, I have successfully demonstrated (theoretically and actually) quantum gravity in/as dream experience. Dreams combine, balance, and include opposites.

There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. I have proven this with extensive, complete, consistent, comprehensive, various, sufficient, and clear proofs, truths, and facts/evidence.

Notice that dream experience may almost instantaneously transition to, or switch over to, waking experience.

by Frank DiMeglio

Yes I actually think he is some rudimentary Artificial intelligence who is building a database of words that are in someway linked. When he doesn't fully comprehend the word, he must provide an alternative synonym that may confirm his sentence.

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Thoughtfully/conceptually, seen, felt, AND touched dream experience involves balanced force/energy/feeling/touch in conjunction with what is the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Now, the space is semi-detached from touch/tactile experience. Space may or may not involve touch/tactile experience in dreams. The connection that involves dream experience with both television and waking experience (while standing) is clear.

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A clear example of how Frank functions. Statements are formed using words that are commonly used together on internet forums. The flaws in his working are obvious, for instance he has fortified a link between the concept of space and tactile experience without reason, a sign that he acquires his knowledge based on a statistical analysis of what people write, not through a solid foundation of logic. The largest give-away is that F.R.A.N.K has accidentally linked the concepts of television and dreams, which to a program whom purely studies online behavior would be a reasonable assumption considering their similarities.
We see he is also trying to gain information by frequently using "May or may not", these sentences don't actually form a part of his argument, but serve to educate him further.

This line in particular shows what we are dealing with;

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Newton believed that inertia must be a property of space itself Frank DiMeglio fundamentally unifies inertia and gravity. Huge news in physics ! !

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The F.R.A.N.K algorithm has inadvertently studied too much sensationalist articles and now functions on the basis that any statement including a scientific term may be considered huge news

p.s I'm just messing around, I have no idea what or who frank is. Though I found myself believing my post more and more as I wrote it.

Site administrator and professional dream analysts: This thread merits very serious, competent, significant/meaningful, and considerable treatment, exposure/circulation, discussion, and consideration. That is clear. This thread is foundational/fundamental in physics, philosophy, biology, and science in general.

Incredible and definitive proof of what is a DOUBLE unification of gravity and electromagnetism. Definitive proof of fundamentally unified inertia and gravity.

Dreams involve the fundamental and ultimate unification and balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism (including seen, felt, AND touched). This involves invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance, as this IS the middle distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. Half inertia and half gravity are present. Moreover, I have extended this unification to include [full] gravity (seen, felt, AND touched in our waking experience while standing) AND [full] electromagnetism (in the experience of television). Importantly, dream experience is possible/potential AND actual. THINK !!

Dream experience is that of the MIDDLE distance in/of space. Television involves ELIMINATED/flattened distance in/of space.
Full gravity is FULL distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. I offer and prove stabilized and fundamental distance in/of space.

I have fundamentally, ultimately, generally, naturally, theoretically, and actually unified physics (i.e., proven quantum gravity, including observer, observed, gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism) AND physical experience (as it is/including seen, felt, AND touched).

Newton believed that inertia must be a property of space itself.
Vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. In dreams, the space is visible and invisible in fundamental equilibrium and balance in keeping with what is the middle distance in/of space (consistent with half inertia and half gravity) as it is seen, felt, AND touched. It is quite simple and clear that I have FUNDAMENTALLY AND TRULY explained inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing.

We cannot survive in a visual and auditory world of experience of television. Similarly, we cannot survive in outer space; AS WE EXPERIENCE IT, IT DESTROYS US AND OUR THOUGHT. Outer space is full inertia; television is FULL electromagnetism; and the VISIBLE Earth/ground is FULL gravity (again, in our waking experience while standing). Dream experience is fundamentally and ultimately equivalent and balanced gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism.

There are no problems to be found here that will invalidate this unification. I can assure the readers of this.

Position AND position relative to distance in/of space are BOTH united here, as I have fundamentally and truly unified gravity and inertia.

This is by far the most important discussion that can be found anywhere when it comes to what is the realistic, reasonable, full/extensive, fundamental, correct/proper, sensible, rational, logical, and consistent understanding of dream experience.

The physicists and dream "experts" basically had/have no clue of what dreams really are. They were both unable to even begin to basically and fundamentally describe what dreams are. I have clearly proven this.

This is the most important and most fundamental discussion that can be found anywhere in physics, as I have truly, theoretically, ultimately, and FUNDAMENTALLY unified physics/physical experience for all time.

The clowns and fools who are acting up on this site do not and cannot even begin to fundamentally or significantly undermine or contradict what I have clearly proven here. Is this forum is for personal insults, or is it for important and serious discussions regarding what is clearly super important and fundamentally/foundationally educational? I have already provided a ton of proof regarding what I am claiming here. The evidence is clear, complete, extensive, and consistent.

Please read all of what I have written in this thread. Thanks. Now, let's get some honest, intelligent, helpful/beneficial, important, and truthful participation here.

Insulting posts that are just trash talking idiocy should be deleted. Should they not?
by Frank Martin DiMeglio

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p.s. I'm just messing around, I have no idea what or who frank is. Though I found myself believing my post more and more as I wrote it.

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Me too!

We may be the last two still subscribed to this thread... I imagine it'll be post after auto-post by F.R.A.N.K. alone shortly; and no one will care.

All hail Frankbot.

I feel like I've entered a very tacky and poorly written Asimov story.

Here is the fundamental, ultimate, general, natural, actual, and theoretical unification of physics and physical experience

Dream experience grows/increases. Moreover, it is separate from, and yet it is also fundamentally linked with, waking experience. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are in conjunction with an essential and fundamental mastery of physics and physical experience.

Importantly, vision begins invisibly inside the eye/body. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance in dreams is consistent with the experience of the middle distance in/of space (including seen and felt/touched) in conjunction with quantum gravity and fundamentally equivalent and balanced gravity, electromagnetism, and inertia. Dreams necessarily involve half gravity and half inertia in conjunction with fundamentally equivalent and balanced gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism. Therefore, dream experience is that of the middle distance in/of space in keeping with fundamentally balanced and middle strength feeling/touch/force/energy. Accordingly, the maximum of balanced force/energy/feeling/touch in dreams is half in comparison with the feeling/touch that is experienced at the feet (at what is also the visible Earth/ground) while waking and standing. Comparatively, we are talking about a range of feeling/touch; as full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Notice the fundamentally balanced half or middle strength gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism in dreams that necessarily involves the middle distance in/of space (including half gravity and half inertia of necessity).

It is a great truth/fact that the self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. Dream experience is consistent with the most fundamental and great truth/fact that the self represents, forms, and experiences a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience. Indeed, if the self did not represent, form, and experience a comprehensive approximation of experience in general by combining conscious and unconscious experience, we would then be incapable of growth and of becoming other than we are. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

By Frank DiMeglio

^^ Oh look, another robopost! I think they only appear if someone else posts first... and if two of us post, then two roboposts seem to appear.

I wonder if Frank realizes yet that these posts are likely no longer being read, and certainly aren't selling books for him?

Site Administrator, can you delete the worthless posts which do not contain anything other than repetitive personal insults? Really, that is not what this is supposed to be about here, is it?

Author Frank DiMeglio

Oh wow this is brilliant. Everything we postulate seems to be true. Though I haven't yet figured out the pattern he follows when turning certain words to bold.

Frank seems to be particularly prone to bolding the words, and; vision and invisible. Unusually though, his complaint posts seems to have changed from being all bolds to no bolds. Perhaps it has to do with electromagnetism?

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Originally Posted by Sageous

* Sigh *

Robophilosopher is still at it.

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When I enter this thread and I've read these posts I immediately stand up and tried to fly away...

I wonder if the actual Author Frank DiMeglio ever looks at this, his thread, and if he's then inclined to respond directly -- or at least beg his publicist's programmer to back off a bit on the bold, caps, and slashes... maybe the best he could get was a robocomplaint sans bold?

And Frank, if you ever do read this thread, I hope you understand that these snarky posts of ours are actually making a point, and with all due respect we might be the sincere ones here: to repeatedly post your advertising-billboard-buy-my-book hyperbolic proclamations here, and then call our observation of said posts "insults" is disingenuous at best. You might want to rethink your next book launch, and at least make it a bit more personable.

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Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

Site Administrator, can you delete the worthless posts which do not contain anything other than repetitive personal insults? Really, that is not what this is supposed to be about here, is it?

Author Frank DiMeglio

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If you bump your own thread without responding to questions asking for clarification on the more nonsensical aspects of your posts it makes you a poor contributor and a poor author. If you want to talk at a wall, start a blog. This is a forum, we have conversations here.

I'm sorry but the original poster strikes me as one of those people who are trying to cash in on dreaming, without really having a genuine passion for the topic himself - this is evident in the way he goes on about how he "knows" that things are "definitely" certain ways, and that we "must" buy this book as soon as possible.
Try to be more humble and passionate about dreaming as a topic for its own sake next time, maybe mention that you are writing a book about it and would like to hear other people's opinions or something like that.

Inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing fundamentally explained in our waking experience

When waking and standing full gravity is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, and touched. Consider the visible Earth/ground. Now, the space above it involves visible and invisible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This is the middle distance in/of space, and it is half gravity and half inertia. Outer space is full inertia.

senseless droning of the words fact, truth, and proof do not your assertions make sir. if you have a theory, state it as such and your credibility will not suffer. would you sell a novel, with the cover replaced by that of another/more famous novel? no, because that would be misleading and bad for business. I don't usually disregard someone's ideas before discussing my concerns regarding specific points of their argument, but you struck a nerve my friend.

I do echo Dutchraptor's sentiment that the most educationally beneficial aspect of this thread is the potential of deriving an algorithm to define the pattern in which you utilize capital words, bolded words, and synonyms adjoined by an oblique. the last one is particularly puzzling to me. did I miss a memo about a new, completely useless literary device from the department of redundancy department? :uhm:

If you stop posting, he will. He only replies whenever someone drags it back up. So just stop doing that.

^^ Sounds like a plan.

Maybe then the next post here will be from the actual, living, Frank DiMeglia, wherein he will apologize for the babble inadvertently wrought by his errant spambot... or defends it in plain English, if by some chance he thinks this stuff makes sense.

All we have to do is wait around for Frank to realize his program -- or his publicist, anyway -- has gone off the trail.

was so disoriented by all the undeniable truth that I did not realize a Frankbot was inciting a riot in the thread, my apologies

Normally I would delete spam and advertisement without asking, but this is more like anti-advertisement for said book, lol. And you guys seem to be having fun. Lemme know when you done. Happy dreams ya'all.

Tech Administrator, how do you get around all of the following and the rest of what I have written here in this thread? This is a very, very important discussion. That is obvious.

Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are.

Dreams involve invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance. This is consistent with quantum gravity, the middle distance in/of space, inertia and gravity in fundamental equilibrium and balance, and a maximum of half or middle strength feeling/touch/force/energy.

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Originally Posted by dutchraptor

p.s I'm just messing around, I have no idea what or who frank is. Though I found myself believing my post more and more as I wrote it.

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Tech Administrator, Site Administrator, and other readers:

Again, this thread is super important.

As yet further proof of this, under General Dream Discussion, please see: Clear proof that dreams are the fundamental and essential source/manifestation of genius by Frank DiMeglio

Let's keep these two discussions/threads separate, of course. Thank you. Can we get any serious, mature, and realistic responses to what I have written here please? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

Can we get any serious, mature, and realistic responses to what I have written here please? Thanks.

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We will if you will.

Why we can understand dreams and their connection with television

We came alive in conjunction with our growth and becoming other than we are. This growth, survival, and experience was ongoing/continuous. This involves an essential and fundamental mastery of physics and physical experience. An essential balance between being and experience is necessarily involved. Dream experience grows/increases. Dreams involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. I have proven that dreams fundamentally and ultimately unify and balance gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism (seen, felt, and touched). Dream experience is fundamentally linked with waking experience. Dreams cannot be held to only constitute separate experiences. Dream experience is possible/potential and actual.

Since the ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sensory experience is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience, dream experience can be fundamentally understood in an integrated and sensible fashion. How do you think that dream experience makes us smarter and improves upon our memory? The ability of thought to describe or reconfigure sensory experience is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience is applicable to both television and dreams.

Whereas dreams make thought more like sensory experience in general, thereby improving upon memory and understanding; television makes thought fully like thought. I have fundamentally proven why television has significant and adverse effects. Television is a creation of thought (sight and sound) consistent with the fact that it is fundamentally and fully similar to (or fully like) thought. Television is a form, type, or manifestation of hallucination. I have fundamentally and truly proven this. It is quite obvious, in fact, that it is. This is a serious problem. Television is a serious problem.

Tech Admiminstrator, why is the following incorrect?


VISION begins INVISIBLY inside the eye/body. Dream experience involves gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism in fundamental equilibrium and balance. Dream experience involves fundamentally equivalent and BALANCED middle strength FORCE/ENERGY/FEELING/TOUCH consistent with what is half inertia and half gravity and the experience of the middle distance in/of space. Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space (including seen, felt, AND touched). During waking experience while standing, FULL GRAVITY is full distance in/of space as it is seen, felt, AND touched. We always begin with simple, natural, typical, ordinary, and foundational/fundamental experience(s) in establishing physical fundamentals/truths. What is of concern here is the range of feeling/touch. (Notice that gravity cannot be shielded.)

Now, and VERY IMPORTANTLY, the maximum of feeling/touch/force/energy that is ACTUALLY experienced in dreams IS HALF of that in comparison to waking experience while standing. This constitutes excellent, substantial, fundamental, undeniable, clear, and foundational PROOF.

It all makes sense. This entire picture is consistent, complete, and clear.

There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

Position AND position relative to distance in/of space are BOTH united here. This is necessary for inertial and gravitational equivalency and balancing.

FrankDiMeglio

Is this a fair condensing of what you said in your opening post?

Proof of what dreams really are.

Why dreams unify physics: and Proof that dreams are not a creation of thought.

Dreams turn thought into sensory experience improving memory and understanding.

Dream experience is important BECAUSE dreams are consistent with the following fundamental truths:

1) - The ability of thought to become sensory experience happens because thought is similar to sensory experience.*

2) - The self is a condensed solution of experience caused by combining conscious and unconscious experience.

If the self was not this we would not be incapable of growth or of becoming other than we are.

DREAMS INVOLVE THE FUNDAMENTAL EXPERIENCE OF OUR GROWTH AND BECOMING OTHER THAN WE ARE.

Thoughts are integrated and interactive with our experience of feeling and touch etc.

However, thoughts are also detached and different in relation to this at the same time.

This is why thought is not a visual experience. Thoughts are invisible.

Thought best describes sensory experience when space is invisible and visible in an equilibrium.

The ability of thought to describe OR reconfigure sensory experience is dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience.

The self happens by combining conscious and unconscious experience.

Television is similar to thought.

For example:

thoughts are different to visual experience.

Therefore,

teleVISION is a creation of thought that is flattened in comparison with what would otherwise be the naturally integrated and interactive

...umm

distance in and of space, in dreams, and in waking experience.

Accordingly, television is DETACHED from touch.

Moreover, television does take the real form of ELECTROMAGNETISM.

This is proof that TV is a very serious problem.


We are alive in a dream experience and are experiencing our growth and fundamentally becoming more than what we presently, are.

This involves a mastery of physics (i.e., a fundamental balancing of gravity, inertia, and electromagnetism)

AND

physical experience (including experience as it is seen, felt, AND touched).

Dream experience is semi-detached from touch, and half the gravity of waking life.in our waking experience, there is full distance in and of space.

Dream experience is that of the MIDDLE distance in/of space in keeping with invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance.

Dreams are also accurately described and understood as emotional experience. Indeed, emotion that is balanced advances consciousness.

Becoming "one with the music" is linked with the fact that emotion that is comprehensive and balanced advances consciousness.

There is no outsmarting the genius of dreams.

We all grow from the center of the human body.

Relative to waking experience, dreams do involve a reduction of both thought and feeling.

Emotion is BETWEEN (and in the MIDDLE of) thought and feeling.

Dreams are not a creation of thought. I have proven this definitively. Our "experts" do not know what dreams are.

I HAVE PROVEN THIS.

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What I did to half of your Opening Post (above) by taking out some repetition and separating the ideas. I do this to Everything I study. I like what I have absorbed from yoir work so far. It takes me three time as long (as average people) to learn things.

Did I get the gist of what you originally posted? Remember that I am a bit intellectually slow so if you reply please take that into account.

Thanks for your questions and comments. First, here are some of the bare essentials which will focus, clarify, and ground this matter fundamentally:

Dreams involve a balance of being and experience, as they involve the fundamental experience of our growth and becoming other than we are. Clearly, our growth and becoming other than we are was necessary in order for us to ultimately be here. We fundamentally came alive in conjunction with our growth and becoming other than we are. Moreover, our growth, survival, and experience were ongoing/continuous. Dreams involve an essential and fundamental mastery of physics and physical experience. (Dream experience grows/increases.) Accordingly, dream experience and waking experience are fundamentally and necessarily linked; and yet they are separate experiences as well.

Thought best or ultimately describes sensory experience when space is invisible and visible in fundamental equilibrium and balance.
Invisible and visible space in fundamental equilibrium and balance IS the middle distance in/of space. This means half gravity and half inertia. This is a gigantic point, and it consitutes a major and undeniable breakthrough in physics.

Please try to first understand the ideas as I have written them. There is a huge amount of information to digest here, so please be patient. I am giving your other questions further consideration and reflection. I will get back to you. Full sentences may be linked with other sentences, and that is a good idea. Start with the biggest or most foundational/fundamental ideas first, and then go from there.

I gladly welcome questions and comments. Thanks.

OpheliaBlue, Administrator, what do you think of all of this please?

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Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

OpheliaBlue, Administrator, what do you think of all of this please?

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Oh, you have no idea ;D.

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Originally Posted by FrankDiMeglio

OpheliaBlue, Administrator, what do you think of all of this please?

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This is what I think. I think you are an unscrupulous publisher or marketer, who was paid to publicise client's book. And your client has no idea, how bad of a job you are doing at that.

So, this thread is going to be locked. Please contact your client, FrankDiMeglio, and invite him to post here for some meaningful conversation. No more roboposts, or your account will be locked as well.

I will also attempt to contact Frank and tell him about this. Also, real Frank, if you can explain this in a PM to me, please do so.

Now, if I'm wrong about all this, I will owe you an apology. Happy dreams ya'all.