Al-Qaeda doesn't actually exist, it's just fear-mongering on the part of the American goverment

OK. You win. I honestly can't stand having my user name attacked. Also, don't act like you've never put words in my mouth.

I guess you're just so seriously smarter than the rest of the world. You must be some kind of telepathic genius. Maybe it's that "third eye" you brag about in your signature. Why don't you bring your evidence to a news station? I'm sure they would piss their pants if they found out the corporations were destroying their own buildings for precious oil money.

What about flight 93? Were the knife wielding terrorists hologram projections? I mean, George Bush pulled all the other crap off, so I think a simple holographic projection would be easy.

You sir, are a drone. Go back to zoning out in front of FOX news and feed your speculative fears and delusions that much more. Hey, keep your fingers crossed. Maybe one day you'll be lucky enough to get the opportunity to take a bullet for uncle sam, so you don't have to take up any more minutes of my time. Buh-bye ;)

What about Flight 93?

What about your sources?

You continually skirt issues, while I question them. Flight 93 or the Pentagon has absolutely nothing to do with this thread, so stop feebly attempting to steer this thread off-topic.

What about Flight 93?

By now, I must have asked you about your sources well over 10 times, yet somehow you outright refuse to answer the question, and try and change the subject as if in some odd way your personal opinion outweighs the facts at hand.

Can I ask you something, real quick? Is that part of the hardwired programming of the chip installed in your brainwashing chip, or is that just an ingrained part of being born a tool? Quite fascinating really.

Flight 93. Hit me baby.

Solskye, all you have proven is that the Hussein regime was once our ally. Congratulations. Your are correct on that. However, that does not mean we were in full support of them in general. We had a common enemy-- Iran. So we teamed up with them against Iran just like we teamed up with the Soviet Union against the Nazis. Sometimes alliances with bad governments are necessary, but it does not mean they are our great buddies. The Hussein regime went from very loose ally to arch enemy, and we ended up going to war with them in 1991. They became an enemy terrorist government that we had to deal with for many reasons. Did you read my link about 11 reasons we needed to go to war with Iraq, or did you just read one thing in it and jump to closed-minded concusions like you usually do? I stand by all 11 of those reasons and have stood behind them ever since the war started, which was long before I ever read that article. You yourself admit Iraq's history of terrorism and even WMD terrorism. When that same government sponsors suicide bombings and has meetings with and harbors representatives of Al Qaeda and violates our ceasefire and supports Hamas and Hezballah, you would have to be a naive sheep of the cult of liberalism to think we don't have a major problem on our hands.

Your constant accusations of how I am supposedly a drone and a right wing robot and all of that bullshit really make you look ignorant. You sound like a fifteen year old with blue hair who hates his parents and gets bumps of self-esteem by telling people they don't think, and thinking is something I haven't seen you do much of. If that is what makes you pretend you are somebody, I know well enough how very distant from the truth you are about me to know how absurd you sound. Go to the Religion forum and look at how much I follow the American right wing. Read what I have said in the Beyond Dreaming forum. Read about my stances on drug legalization and prostitution and how silly I think the Pledge of Allegience and American national anthem are. You sound like a robot who has a huge boner for calling other people sheep and robots because it is all you can do to have even the smallest amount of self esteem. That awful music you posted is never going to work for you, so you resort to very hollow insults against the last damn people they apply to. You are going to have to try something else, if you don't want to come across as extremely ignorant.

And where are those counterarguments to the things I said to shred your insane idea that Al Qaeda does not exist? Do you have any? Or are such counterarguments not part of the liberal brainwash chip your nutty cult leaders put into your brain center for hollow babbling?

Im not sure if this has been posted but its pretty much common knowledge that Al-CIA-duh is an asset of the neo-con agenda and has been proven to be linked to top officials in the FBI.

The Shadows in the Cave Documentary on Al CIA da

Also, if you remember, Sibel Edmonds was an FBI agent who found evidence of money laundering directly to terrorists from within the FBI.

"The FBI repeatedly investigated Sibel's claims (Office of Inspector General (OIG), Office of Special Counsel (OSC), Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR)) and found them to be valid ("Confirmed all, denied none") therefore the Executive Branch simply gagged her.

Sibel then went to Congress which also investigated her case. They found all her claims to be valid, supported by FBI agents and documents, therefore the Executive Branch gagged Congress.

The senators who had investigated, and confirmed, Sibel's case were outraged, and then complied with the gag order.

Sibel then went to the courts. Sibel and her attorneys were kicked out of court so the government could argue it's case in secrecy - where they were free to tell the most outrageous of lies if they so chose. Sibel and her legal team presume that is exactly what happened. The judge said:

"I know this is draconian, but who am I to argue with the government on matters related to national security?""

More very questionable sources. And what do they say any way? An FBI agent might have done some fucked up stuff and the government had national security interests to consider? So, how would that prove that the Middle East does not exist, I mean, that Al Qaeda does not exist?

UM, Since you must resort to direct insults without correlation or connection to the debate, you have in essence conceded defeat. That'd be the exact same thing as, after having ran out of steam to continue on, you have no choice but to stoop as low as throwing around, YO MOMMA, jokes in desperation. How old are you again, 35? going on 12? How pathetic.

Hating on my music has nothing to do with al Qaeda, 9-11, or anything about anything, and all it proves to me is you are some jealous unproductive loser ex-social worker who stays up until ungodly hours of the morning, arguing things without backing them up, while listening to Led Zepplin, and knows next to nothing about music or music production. If you knew anything about music or the elements and instruments involved you would know you are full of it, it's pathetic really. No one in real life has ever said any of the things you said, because quite simply there is no one that feels the way you do. :cool:

So, tell me again where does my music, or my views on manipulation which you even later agreed with me on, have anything to do with this? You unproductive jealous tool, you. ;)

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How old you again, 35? going on 12? How pathetic.

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The hypocrisy is blinding.

Since the popular consensus is that al Qaeda, crazy as it may sound, exists, and that they attacked us, you must prove to us otherwise. The burdon of proof is on you. You have yet to do that.

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UM, Since you must resort to direct insults without correlation or connection to the debate, you have in essence conceded defeat. That'd be the exact same thing as, after having ran out of steam to continue on, you have no choice but to stoop as low as throwing around, YO MOMMA, jokes in desperation. How old are you again, 35? going on 12? How pathetic.

Hating on my music has nothing to do with al Qaeda, 9-11, or anything about anything, and all it proves to me is you are some jealous unproductive loser ex-social worker who stays up until ungodly hours of the morning, arguing things without backing them up, while listening to Led Zepplin, and knows next to nothing about music or music production. If you knew anything about music or the elements and instruments involved you would know you are full of it, it's pathetic really. No one in real life has ever said any of the things you said, because quite simply there is no one that feels the way you do. :cool:

So, tell me again where does my music, or my views on manipulation which you even later agreed with me on, have anything to do with this? You unproductive jealous tool, you. ;)

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Try to count the number of insults in that post. Do you comprehend what hypocrisy is? And why the Hell did you post the same hypocritical speech in two threads? I never said women should be treated like shit. I went off on you for your sociopathic attitude. I said snippiness works on SOME women when it comes to picking them up in bars but that you have NO RIGHT to give women the shitty lives you say you give them just so you can have your way. You don't know jack shit about my business life, but I do know about what your music does to my stomach.

I made a lot of points that pick apart your mere assertion that Al Qaeda does not exist. If you can't counter them, then drop it. All you are doing is barking. That's all I've ever seen you do. But that definitely beats the only sounds I have ever heard you make.

Eye for an eye, leaving the world blind and all that fun stuff. You're the one desperately searching for baseless excuses to be right. I refuted your sources and you still go on talking like you have it all figured out. Funny stuff, man. Simply put, you lose... and had lost the moment you needed to resort to off-topic baseless bashing. Try coming back better equipped with things helping your argument, next time.

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Eye for an eye, leaving the world blind and all that fun stuff. You're the one desperately searching for baseless excuses to be right. I refuted your sources and you still go on talking like you have it all figured out. Funny stuff, man. Simply put, you lose... and had lost the moment you needed to resort to off-topic baseless bashing. Try coming back better equipped with things helping your argument, next time.

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Do you know what a self-projection hypothesis is? You really should look into it. You could be the poster boy for the phenomenon. It often comes with severe levels of narcissism.

Where you really got off track was after post #50 (the last post on page 2), where we were engaged in a debate and I made several points to counter yours. Then in #51 (the first post on page 3), you gave a copout response that didn't counter anything. Ever since then, you have been talking off topic and dishing out one bizarre insult after another. If you still don't have anything to argue with, then.... bye.

Label me what you must. As I said, too much free time and nothing there to back up those empty arguments...please do keep up that futile search for that baseless bile. I'm all ears.

And, by all means please do come back when you find something about your argument worth supporting. I'll be here. ;)

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Label me what you must. As I said, too much free time and nothing there to back up those empty arguments...please do keep up that futile search for that baseless bile. I'm all ears.

And, by all means please do come back when you find something about your argument worth supporting. I'll be here. ;)

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Continue to stay off topic instead of countering the points I made in post #50. You've been stuck in the mud ever since then. The challenge still stands.

this is useless.... you guys should support your country at your best, prooving alqaidas existence wont change anything in your life's. Instead of arguing do something about your current life. Leave the terrorists to politics, it is them who you elected, and its their job to fix the issue.

Addressing those facts and conspiracies, is not a good way addressing a issue.
Just think of the people who died during 9/11.

Anything is possible in this world, so deal with it. The more you provoke this issue the more attention is held upon it. And people who suffered might do something unthinkable.

Personally its a horror to think of, especially with those conspiracy's about our own government blowing population off.

Universal mind :
You show us your patriotism, go and fight for your country. Instead of sitting and typing those useless words (sentences) you could save some innocent life's. Flaming these people is useless, you are in no power to shut their mouths or checkmate them.
Life is measured by actions not words.

Flame me as much as you want, it is all useless im just a regular human being as you are who lives and seeks freedom.
The world is not as it seems to be.

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Universal mind :
You show us your patriotism, go and fight for your country. Instead of sitting and typing those useless words (sentences) you could save some innocent life's. Flaming these people is useless, you are in no power to shut their mouths or checkmate them.
Life is measured by actions not words.

Flame me as much as you want, it is all useless im just a regular human being as you are who lives and seeks freedom.
The world is not as it seems to be.

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If you don't want to debate, why are you here? If you think my sentences are useless, give me some counterarguments. Can you? It's funny how much I am having to beg for counterarguments. I thought the falsity of what I am saying was supposed to be just so obvious. Let's see some proof. It's funny to win a debate and watch how the reactions involve so much stuff about how I am just trying to flame and shut people up. It's a debate. Do you understand what that is? Of course a thread where people assert that the U.S. government dreamed up the idea of the terrorist group that is supposed to be our biggest enemy and pulled the most famous terrorist attack in the history of the world is going to be a big debate. What did you expect? If you don't want to be part of it, then bye bye.