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Mites.
Can't argue with that logic!
THE END! :banana:
Yeah, but he did lots of short stories for older readers. They usually had quite disturbing twists at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonbeam
No seriously, dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolSkye
I live around an area that is full of beehives, both feral and man-made.
Whenever there is a lot of bees disappearing/dying, it's usually Mites that get onto the domesticated bees from the wild ones, that then infects the whole colony, and they die off.
The thing is, they go through all those theories and more in the interviews. It's not so clean-cut as that. ;)
Actually all they do in those interviews (Especially Coast to Coast-- Who the hell listens to them???) is blow up the subject to something a lot larger than it is.
Uh, If you don't want to speculate... leave...
Along with entertaining thoughts, I suppose that's hard for trolls like you to do. You sadly search out ways of belittlement.
Well why speculate when I can go ask the beekeeper down the street what he thinks considering he is directly affected by the problem?
But I forgot no one is allowed to be sensical in their answering of questions in your threads.
Right.
Next time I'll find the largest synonyms to words I would use, phrase everything vaguely and post half-a dozen pictures in my post.
If you say so.
Yea, all the scientists and investigators frantically working to figure it out just forgot to ask a beekeeper. Case closed.
Nice job!
Seis is right, why are you calling him a troll? I thought this was all a joke or something; they already figured out why the bees are dying, which as Seis said is caused by parasites, living in an environment in which they didn't evolve, and the stresses placed on the colonies by constant moving, which how the bee-keepers make money. It's not a mystery. :hrm:
Cool; I'll have to check those out. I liked the Chocolate Factory/Glass Elevator, read a million years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pensive Patrick
No the parasites are actually one of the theories... it's inconclusive...
COLONY COLLAPSE DISORDER
The cause or causes of the syndrome are not yet well understood. Theories include environmental change-related stresses,[5] malnutrition, pathogens (i.e., disease[6] including Israel acute paralysis virus[7][8]), mites, pesticides such as neonicotinoids or imidacloprid, and genetically modified (GM) crops with pest control characteristics such as transgenic maize.
Some of you people seem to be missing the BIGGER PICTURE here. Not surprising.
Regardless of exactly WHY the bees are disappearing and what not, does not make the rest of the information presented in this thread useless.
It's all extremely interesting to me. I had no idea that bees were disappearing. Even if it is just mites or parasites or whatever, there's no denying the "coincidences" of the hexagonal patterns, etc. throughout the universe.
Aww, thanks love. ;)
It's not a 'coincidence', it's a fundemental consequence of Euclidian geometry and hence the universe we live in. :|
Hexagons, squares, and triangles are the only three regular tesselating polygons, so they're found all through the universe, from the basic crystals of atomic structure and up.
What I find a lot more interesting are the fundamental constants that determine the whole of the universe, such as pi, e, and crucially to nature in particular, phi (just check out all of the golden spirals in nature). What's interesting is that these are just random, infinitely long numbers; where do they 'come from' and why are they what they are?
That's a bit of a tangent though. But as I say, so are hexagons, they're not that remarkable and have absolutely nothing to do with the disappearance of bees.
According to you, which means absolutely nothing to me. Go away.
Not everything is an argument waiting to be won.
Wow, real maturity there.
If you didn't want an adult discussion about this then you shouldn't have posted it.
However that's what you did, and unless you simply post stuff to hear people agree with you in order to improve your own mental wellbeing, which I'm hoping for your sake that you don't, could you please respond to any respectful responses properly. Simply making a random, amazing, and fairly vague statement out of the blue isn't good enough.
Jesus Christ Sol Skye. I like your threads and love the speculation going on here, but you're acting like you're the only one allowed to have an opinion. You complain to Seis that he should leave if he won't speculate, Xei offers his thoughts on the matter and you belittle him. If you're going to be an asshole, at least be a consistent one rather than acting like a hypocrite.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolSkye
Sure not everything is an argument waiting to be won, but not everything that doesn't fit into your model of thought is i unworthy of consideration. Nor is anything that doesn't fit your thought pattern false or incorrect.
If you want to discuss a specific theory, make the thread on that specific theory. Don't offer other theories and ask people to post what they think and then berate them when they do. Hypocrisy at its finest.
Theres a friggin tangent.
Again. There are ways of talking WITH people without talking TO them. When people put negative tones in their posts I don't enjoy that. PERIOD. I don't post threads for people to excrete bile, I post them for people to exchange ideas.
Saying bold statements from within the confines of the ego like...
"I hope that's a joke..."
"Who the hell listens to them???"
"phrase everything vaguely and post half-a dozen pictures"
"It's not a 'coincidence"
"they're not that remarkable"
"absolutely nothing to do with"
I don't think I have to point out that certain characters on here seem to enjoy searching out opportunities to offend and condescend. Perhaps, I was even one of them in the past. However, I obviously didn't intend that with this thread.
So, why should I accept that in the thread? I don't have to accept anything I don't intend... Especially considering I spend a long time putting the threads together to be as informative and mind-opening as possible... ;)
I don't doubt that GM organisms are going to cause trouble. Pesticides are bad too. The bees were not natural either, however; maybe it isn't such a terrible thing if they are gone from North America anyway, at least if the native pollinators aren't already wiped out--I haven't heard of the being true, so hopefully not. Introducing non-native species usually results in imbalances; a lot of the time it's the environment that suffers, this time it happens to be the "invader".Quote:
Originally Posted by SolSkye
Non-native worms are causing a lot of trouble in the northern parts of this continent. No earthworms were native to areas where the last glacier came down. Many European worms were introduced, and they have eaten all of the organic matter which used to protect the forest floor; now that is gone and there is erosion and detrimental change in the soil. As far as I know, the worms do not use any triangles or hexagons. Mostly just amorphous crap.
SolSyke, I'm not trying to insult anybody. I just don't bother feathering my sentences with iffy little phrases; if I want to make a point, I'm going to be blunt about it.
I could add 'it is only my opinion that...' before every single sentence if you wanted, but I really can't be bothered to waste my time sounding like an indecisive goon when I have a point to make, and if you hadn't realised, it's already bloody obvious that anything I post is invariably going to be my personal opinion anyway.
Now if you'd like to carry on with the actual topic of conversation? Because, thinking about it, I can't remember a single time when you've actually responded to anything I've said, instead of going off on one about how someone could have done something so outrageously rude as disagreeing with you.
Apologies, if I stepped out of line. I don't think I have, though.
I find, all these interwoven formulas and self-similar structures being ever-present in all things quite fascinating. I like connecting dots. I would hardly be able to jump the gun enough to draw a conclusion of their NOT being a causal connection between their structure and disappearance. I just don't like jumping to conclusions.
I like jumping between them. I guess that's what I prefer from people in these threads I create... not building up these superfluous walls of doubt, bubbles of belief, and hurdles of preconception in things they aren't authorities on, anyway... They don't help anything here...
They just get in the way.
Building onto an idea on the other hand? You could do so much more that way...
Taking a Productive path, as opposed to Destructive one with ideas is generally more Constructive, wouldn't you say? :)
Just look at what happened to that cymatics thread after skysaw started to entertain the thought? Now, he got inspired to create something based of running with that train of thought... You'd be surprised... that's how it works... tearing down those walls works wonders...
SolSkye...my best advice...when you post threads like this...if someone DOES post something that pisses you off. Just try to ignore it. Don't rise. You know? Because there are some of us who really appreciate these threads. And I don't give a shit about what those people have to say. But I also don't like reading replies of you yelling at them. Don't lower yourself to that level. =)
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So true. ;)
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Solskye, you must be a religious follower of the Law of Fives.