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The ability to record a sleeper's dreams as video may sound far fetched, but recent technologies may pave the way for such a possibility.
Check out this article and video on a neckband that translates thought into speech by picking up nerve signals. This technology is still in it's infancy, limited to a 150 word vocabulary, but I feel it's certainly a step in the right direction.
http://technology.newscientist.com/c...thic-chat.html
That is awesome. :shock::clap:
:boggle: Holy crap.
Lol...
We'll have mindcontrol for just about anything. Mind controled computer and now this. Not to mention the nerve-chip-internet interface I read/watched about.
And here's another technology that has the potential to create visuals from brainwaves.
http://technology.newscientist.com/a...-eye-sees.html
I don't understand how this technology works... sounds aren't simply modulated by the vocal chords, right?
Sounds like "d" and "t" are only differentiated by subtle lip and tongue positioning. I have a feeling they may be exaggerating the potential for improvement of a system which pays attention purely to the vocal chords.
Ah. You beat me to it. I StumbledUpon a blog entry from a scientist that was talking about the same thing. It even showed pics from an experiment that was done with a cat, and the image that it translated by monitoring the brain activity. The image was kind of grainy, and in black and white, but you could perfectly see that it was looking at a tree limb.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cusp
I saved the page and tried to go back to it now, to post it, but I get a "Forbidden" error message on the page, now. :?
It monitors the nerve signals, not just the vocal chords, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by thegnome54
I've dreamt of technology this bad ass, but it always seemed impossible, or at least not possible in my own lifetime. Maybe there's hope after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cusp
Oneironaut summed it up. That is awesome!!!:banana::boogie:
I think they're monitoring the nerve signals to the specific muscles which tighten/relax the vocal chords. Granted, my understanding of throat anatomy and function is pretty vague, so I could be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oneironaut
Every time this topic comes up, I feel obligated to refer to the 1983 movie "Brainstorm" - so sorry 'bout that.
I will add this, though. This is merely the technology that's being allowed to be made public. Somewhere in some government underground lab facility some of the world's smartest people (perhaps some of the ones in the above articles) are playing with much bigger and better toys - ones which make the above seem like an abacus compared to the iPhone.
This isn't a late April fools joke is it? :?
Did you look at the articles? They are from well before April 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by psychology student
And I heard about those, sounds awesome!
This is pretty break through stuff thanks for posting!
Gnome, it has to do with the brain waves and nerve signals that are associated with different sounds. For example, they associate certain things with certain images and such... and every sound, supposedly, has its own nerve signal that you send to the mouth. But by the way, all of the links in this thread seem to be broken... is it the same for anyone else?
And this is so badass.
I second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mes Tarrant
This sounds about right--basically, the brain sends a sufficiently distinctive impulse for each word and/or phoneme that the collar can match it to a pre-established database of impulse/sound pairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasup
What I wonder is how universal are the nerve impulses. Does everyone employ the same pattern of neural activity to produce the word "donkey," a regular range of patterns, or completely different patterns from person to person?
I gotta get me one of these... :holycrap:
Amazing stuff there.
It reminds me of that movie with Robin Williams... the one about the chips put into peoples brains when they were young to record their entire life (chips also recorded the dreams).
They can record what you are thinking before you say it. Can you say THOUGHT CRIME?
That's well good! It sends out what you're thinking, extremely clever.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Cusp
Very good question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taosaur
I always assume that too. Then I think about the war in Iraq, and how they don't even armor plate their hummers or give the soldiers bulletproof vests. If we had hi-tech weapons, mind control devices, and robot suits, why would we need all these jackasses running around with gear from the '80s like they're out for a day of paintball?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tornado Joe
Sorry to go off topic.
To me, it seems scary that our brains can be so easily integrated with our current technology. Biology and technology are so fundamentally different. I always assumed that we would need to come up with a technology that was more organic in nature before we would ever be able to do things like this. Scary that we can unite two systems that are so different in their base composition and methodology.
Ah yes, The Final Cut. Great movie. One of Robin's more serious ones, not very publicised, but still a cool movie.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed
I'd just like to point out that at the elementary and very, very basic levels of this technology that such ideas are still not conceivable and are still very much notions of the relatively distant future. Saying this is a precursor to "thought crime" is like saying paper cups connected by string is the step before having everyone being constantly listened to and recorded. Just throwing that out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
Same reason why we're still pumping refined fuels from crude oil into our cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robot Butler
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That is pretty neat. Wouldn't the programing in this thing have to be altered in order to process other languages?
And better yet, how cool would it be if these things could translate into whatever language you want? You think "Where is the subway" and it speaks it in French, German, or whatever language you want!
Yeah that'd be cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iliad Keys
I agree with you there. I just think such technology should be used for the right reasons, such as recording dreams. Which is what i hope will come from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasup
Well, to be honest, I highly doubt that's where it's gonna go, because that's not where the money is. Most of the technology will go to conveniencing the world. As in - imagine a world where you just walk around and think to open doors, etc. But with this, of course, comes some sort of moderation and control. But think of it from another perspective. Imagine if we were in the context of 500 years ago, thinking about being constantly watched, recorded, having any government be able to contact us within minutes and be within our presence within hours. Imagine if there were tools that they could point at you and pull a trigger and instantly kill you, or instantly bring you to the ground. All of this seems pretty overbearing when you think of it, right? While I am a very liberal person, I think people often exaggerate what "will come." As long as we have an intelligent government that can set some sort of moral standard for the use of this technology, I don't think it would be a problem. And, for example, interrogating someone through reading their thoughts. I don't honestly see what's so bad about that. I mean, try to disregard any "slipper slope" here (reading someone's thoughts for any mundane thing, abusing it, etc.). From that point of view, it seems pretty good, doesn't it? If you aren't guilty, the worst that will happen is they find out some random triviality or some perverted secret, which they wouldn't care about (though I'll admit in the case of the second one, it would be "cruel and unusual punishment", I'd say). But it would certainly help if they were guilty. Actually, imagine if they restricted the use of "mind reading" to terrorists. That seems pretty appealing to me. Personally, I agree that I wouldn't want to be subjected to that because I enjoy my own secrets. But imagine if they could use something like that for "suspected terrorists" instead of "enhanced interrogation techniques."Quote:
Originally Posted by ranma187
There was this innovation labs convention thing in Denmark not too long, I was there. Showed of bunches of cool things. This word-brain-converter thingy was also there, though it seemed kinda buggy. It worked to an extent though.
He seems to be concentrating really hard... It seems like it would be hard to do if others would be talking to you...