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      First step to recording dreams as video?

      The ability to record a sleeper's dreams as video may sound far fetched, but recent technologies may pave the way for such a possibility.

      Check out this article and video on a neckband that translates thought into speech by picking up nerve signals. This technology is still in it's infancy, limited to a 150 word vocabulary, but I feel it's certainly a step in the right direction.
      http://technology.newscientist.com/c...thic-chat.html

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      That is awesome.
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      Holy crap.

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      Lol...
      We'll have mindcontrol for just about anything. Mind controled computer and now this. Not to mention the nerve-chip-internet interface I read/watched about.
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      And here's another technology that has the potential to create visuals from brainwaves.

      http://technology.newscientist.com/a...-eye-sees.html

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      I don't understand how this technology works... sounds aren't simply modulated by the vocal chords, right?

      Sounds like "d" and "t" are only differentiated by subtle lip and tongue positioning. I have a feeling they may be exaggerating the potential for improvement of a system which pays attention purely to the vocal chords.

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      And here's another technology that has the potential to create visuals from brainwaves.

      http://technology.newscientist.com/a...-eye-sees.html
      Ah. You beat me to it. I StumbledUpon a blog entry from a scientist that was talking about the same thing. It even showed pics from an experiment that was done with a cat, and the image that it translated by monitoring the brain activity. The image was kind of grainy, and in black and white, but you could perfectly see that it was looking at a tree limb.

      I saved the page and tried to go back to it now, to post it, but I get a "Forbidden" error message on the page, now.

      Quote Originally Posted by thegnome54 View Post
      I don't understand how this technology works... sounds aren't simply modulated by the vocal chords, right?

      Sounds like "d" and "t" are only differentiated by subtle lip and tongue positioning. I have a feeling they may be exaggerating the potential for improvement of a system which pays attention purely to the vocal chords.
      It monitors the nerve signals, not just the vocal chords, right?
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      The ability to record a sleeper's dreams as video may sound far fetched, but recent technologies may pave the way for such a possibility.

      Check out this article and video on a neckband that translates thought into speech by picking up nerve signals. This technology is still in it's infancy, limited to a 150 word vocabulary, but I feel it's certainly a step in the right direction.
      http://technology.newscientist.com/c...thic-chat.html
      I've dreamt of technology this bad ass, but it always seemed impossible, or at least not possible in my own lifetime. Maybe there's hope after all!

      Oneironaut summed it up. That is awesome!!!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      It monitors the nerve signals, not just the vocal chords, right?
      I think they're monitoring the nerve signals to the specific muscles which tighten/relax the vocal chords. Granted, my understanding of throat anatomy and function is pretty vague, so I could be wrong.

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      Every time this topic comes up, I feel obligated to refer to the 1983 movie "Brainstorm" - so sorry 'bout that.

      I will add this, though. This is merely the technology that's being allowed to be made public. Somewhere in some government underground lab facility some of the world's smartest people (perhaps some of the ones in the above articles) are playing with much bigger and better toys - ones which make the above seem like an abacus compared to the iPhone.

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      This isn't a late April fools joke is it?

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      Quote Originally Posted by psychology student View Post
      This isn't a late April fools joke is it?
      Did you look at the articles? They are from well before April 1st.


      And I heard about those, sounds awesome!

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      This is pretty break through stuff thanks for posting!
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      Gnome, it has to do with the brain waves and nerve signals that are associated with different sounds. For example, they associate certain things with certain images and such... and every sound, supposedly, has its own nerve signal that you send to the mouth. But by the way, all of the links in this thread seem to be broken... is it the same for anyone else?

      And this is so badass.

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      Holy crap.
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      Quote Originally Posted by wasup View Post
      Gnome, it has to do with the brain waves and nerve signals that are associated with different sounds. For example, they associate certain things with certain images and such... and every sound, supposedly, has its own nerve signal that you send to the mouth. But by the way, all of the links in this thread seem to be broken... is it the same for anyone else?

      And this is so badass.
      This sounds about right--basically, the brain sends a sufficiently distinctive impulse for each word and/or phoneme that the collar can match it to a pre-established database of impulse/sound pairs.

      What I wonder is how universal are the nerve impulses. Does everyone employ the same pattern of neural activity to produce the word "donkey," a regular range of patterns, or completely different patterns from person to person?
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      Amazing stuff there.

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      It reminds me of that movie with Robin Williams... the one about the chips put into peoples brains when they were young to record their entire life (chips also recorded the dreams).


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      They can record what you are thinking before you say it. Can you say THOUGHT CRIME?
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      The ability to record a sleeper's dreams as video may sound far fetched, but recent technologies may pave the way for such a possibility.

      Check out this article and video on a neckband that translates thought into speech by picking up nerve signals. This technology is still in it's infancy, limited to a 150 word vocabulary, but I feel it's certainly a step in the right direction.
      http://technology.newscientist.com/c...thic-chat.html
      That's well good! It sends out what you're thinking, extremely clever.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Taosaur View Post
      What I wonder is how universal are the nerve impulses. Does everyone employ the same pattern of neural activity to produce the word "donkey," a regular range of patterns, or completely different patterns from person to person?
      Very good question.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tornado Joe View Post
      I will add this, though. This is merely the technology that's being allowed to be made public. Somewhere in some government underground lab facility some of the world's smartest people (perhaps some of the ones in the above articles) are playing with much bigger and better toys - ones which make the above seem like an abacus compared to the iPhone.
      I always assume that too. Then I think about the war in Iraq, and how they don't even armor plate their hummers or give the soldiers bulletproof vests. If we had hi-tech weapons, mind control devices, and robot suits, why would we need all these jackasses running around with gear from the '80s like they're out for a day of paintball?

      Sorry to go off topic.

      To me, it seems scary that our brains can be so easily integrated with our current technology. Biology and technology are so fundamentally different. I always assumed that we would need to come up with a technology that was more organic in nature before we would ever be able to do things like this. Scary that we can unite two systems that are so different in their base composition and methodology.

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      Quote Originally Posted by CoLd BlooDed View Post
      It reminds me of that movie with Robin Williams... the one about the chips put into peoples brains when they were young to record their entire life (chips also recorded the dreams).
      Ah yes, The Final Cut. Great movie. One of Robin's more serious ones, not very publicised, but still a cool movie.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post
      They can record what you are thinking before you say it. Can you say THOUGHT CRIME?
      I'd just like to point out that at the elementary and very, very basic levels of this technology that such ideas are still not conceivable and are still very much notions of the relatively distant future. Saying this is a precursor to "thought crime" is like saying paper cups connected by string is the step before having everyone being constantly listened to and recorded. Just throwing that out there.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Robot Butler
      I always assume that too. Then I think about the war in Iraq, and how they don't even armor plate their hummers or give the soldiers bulletproof vests. If we had hi-tech weapons, mind control devices, and robot suits, why would we need all these jackasses running around with gear from the '80s like they're out for a day of paintball?
      Same reason why we're still pumping refined fuels from crude oil into our cars.


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