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Originally Posted by ray
What is so different between her thinking we are everything, and you saying we are nothing? you need to come up with something better then that.
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Originally Posted by ray
What is so different between her thinking we are everything, and you saying we are nothing? you need to come up with something better then that.
:lol:
i think the OP was a very emo outlook on life, think of it like this
you obviously exist right? so you have a purpose, that 1 failed math test could have been the difference between your A and the B that you recieved instead, so that little points taken away from your GPA made the colledge decide on the same candidate as you but with a higher GPA instead, so now he has a future and not you. You can only live in your world you do not live on some of those HUGE stars, ants are tiny as hell but yet do they not exist, are they nothing? to them they live their lives how they know how to live, you cant really get into this discussion without the whole "what is the meaning to life question" because theoretically, we all die so no matter what we do in the end it will mean nothing to anybody which is where it gets into the different religions and beliefs
Exactly, that's an excellent point, that no matter what your social status is, or who you are, or what you did in your life, you will still die, and then nothing will matter. So I say, live life while you still can, and enjoy the fact that you are here, you are conscious, and you are living and affecting the now.Quote:
Originally Posted by themuffinman
see i take it as a half full or half empty thing, its all a matter of perspective, if you think you are nothing then go on thinking you are nothing, but if you think you mean something then you do. People who think their worthless are because all they do is bring people down with them , like the phrase misery likes company, by the way the whole half empty half full thing, i came up with a logical answer.
if your pouring/drinking/lessening the ammount in the glass, then its half empty, if you are adding stuff to it then it is half full, and if somehow half of the space in the glass was occupied then clearly the glass is twice as big as it needs to be.
If you pull your perspective back far enough you'll stop seeing half-full half-empty and start seeing there's only ever one glass..
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/1/.../Dichotomy.jpg
Yeah, but that one glass is still half-empty or half full.Quote:
Originally Posted by SolSkye
Both.
I don't think it matters what you view the cup as...cause someone drinks it eventually and you end up with an empty glass =P. And if no one ever drinks it, then it is a worthless glass :banana:.
Lesson? You always end up with nothing.
Turning back to it's original literal meaning to drive a point home doesn't exactly hold water. Pardon the pun. ;)
There are two ways to look at any given situation.
Both and Neither are true... They just are...
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But isn't what I said true if even not taken in the literal meaning?Quote:
Originally Posted by SolSkye
Either way, no matter how you look at something, you use it up and its over, if you don't use it then it is meaningless in the first place.
Anyway the analogy is broken anyway since the cup is never half full or half empty, it usually somewhere in the high or the low.
No. That would be misidentifying yourself and your existence with an object. Step back a little further...
This is an intriguing video. I do agree with his idea of fundamental "I-Amness," but I don't think it existed before the Big Bang began, seeing as there was no life, so no one could think "I am." Also, I don't agree with an "edge" to the universe, or that "nothing" existed before the Big Bang. The point is, there has to be something for something else to be created, and the universe goes on infinitely, because once we reach the supposed "end," what is there? What if we reached that edge? What would there be? There has to be something, for us to continue into.
That there is dark matter
once you there their is more when you take a step at the end of the universe you now are making a new borderline
There is no edge... only unending mind...
Of course, there is no end to the universe, because SOMETHING must exist, and nothing is not possible, because when we step outside of the supposed end, then there will have to be something. Besides, the space mission to travel 5 million trillion light-years to the edge of the universe isn't looking so good.