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They are not the same. Laws are based on morality, and morality norms are influenced on some level by laws, but they are two different things. Laws are documented and enforced by a government.
Let's not argue over semantics. You understood what I meant.
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So I can't go into your house and walk off with your the television? Why not? But you can keep it in your house and watch it?
Well, in theory, if I have a television, then you must also have one. And so must everyone else. There's really no reason you'd invade my house for one.
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What do you mean they "explore" undeveloped countries? Did you mean to say "exploit" again? That is what I was asking about. How does Germany exploint undeveloped countries? Most of us give them aid and sometimes liberate them from oppressive regimes.
Lol, that's all propaganda. Propaganda. "Oh, we're helping Cambodia". Propaganda. There are thousands of interests in doing this. It's like investing in a very polluting industry, and then planting a tree to give it a good image. No country was ever there when lesser countries really needed it.
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Not just too dumb. Too unmotivated when there is not a good reward.
Oh, forgive my wording. Human beings are power-hungry, money-guided, and only do things for their own good, noi matter how many others' bad it involves. Why should everyone be equal, if currently I'm higher than the average?
The reward, which you fail to notice, is a once-and-for-all fair society. No exploitation (in a hypothetical communism of course).
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It would still be an unfair system of thievery.
Only if you mean thieving fro mthe dominant class and giving it to the ones who need it. No, communism is not thievery. The oppression behind countries which are self-declared communist is thievery.
Can't you understand what communism means? It means "everyone has exactly what they need, society is divided equally". It's the elimination of wealth and poverty - everyone will be at the same level. I say it's the elimination of thievery.
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We could start with my own. Do you know of a country that has an illegal immigration problem that comes even close to ours? Despite all of the outrageous shit people all over the world say about my country, we are still by far the most in demand place to live in the world. Why might that be?
Lol, you're taking the wrong cause for that. Economically, America is well-developed. Socially, it is not. Then, you go and ask a person who works in worse conditions than a slave, with pitiful health conditions, if they want to go anywhere where they will get paid more.
People just immigrate to the US because of that damn "american dream" image you yourselves promote. It doesn't a very bright person to realise that that dream is actually illusory.
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We're coming to an end? :? How do you figure that?
Getting worse each day, that's what I mean. Slowly dying out.
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I am starting to get the drift that you despise my country. Watch out with that stuff. When people talk in such extreme terms, they don't sound too different from people who go off viciously against the black race and the world's homosexual population. I don't want to see you join that camp.
It's not like I despise your country. I'm just saying it's not the miracle you think it is.
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It is not a battle of religions, and the oil and money stuff is not substantiated by anything more credible than an Art Bell broadcast. What our soldiers are fully conscious of is the threat of Islamofascism and the need to advance the Middle East beyond the level of Biblical times.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Fighting terrorism is just the justification behind the oil, money and religion battle. Another factor I forgot is promoting the growth of the war industry, whic his very influent in the US. It's not the first time the US uses that image. "Let's fight the bad guys". Last time it ended in a nuclear attack. What will come next?
You should realise that, living in the US, you're subject to propaganda. What all the rest of the world sees is a fight of power and money between Iraq and America.
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As far as the religious climate goes, we are behind, but I think religion is on the way out here, for the most part. The fact that people now feel okay about coming out of the closet about being atheists all over the place here is a sign that the religious domination is seriously dwindling.
At a very slow rate. Too many zealots I say. But nevertheless an improvement whic hshould not be ignored. It's not nearly good enough yet, though.
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Thanks. You would be surprised at how many atheists disagree with communism. It seems like every person who used to publicly go off against communism was a right wing religious fanatic. Now people can admit they are atheists, and a lot of us are very pro-capitalism.
The worst thing that ever happened to humanity was capitalism. No control, no general interest, people just go and do what'll bring them money.
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Why would you think there is no form of oppression? The monarchs can go way out of bounds and act like they didn't think they did. We have politicians trying that here all the time, but fortunately they have to answer to others. Who would the monarch have to answer to when he goes way out of line?
A monarchy that is abused can be considered totalitarism. I think you're just considering the very worst that can happen to try and prove me wrong.
That's why it's a constitutional monarchy. There's the official law to regulate the monarch's actions. What you just refuted was totalitarism, not constitutional monarchy.