Ranma, do you think the United States needs a military? Do you think any other countries need the United States to have a military?
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Ranma, do you think the United States needs a military? Do you think any other countries need the United States to have a military?
Jan 30th, 2001AD.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
Oh wait, that was when Clinton was going to hold onto power and instill martial law through FEMA. Now it's Jan 30th, 2009AD and Bush. I've been around this block before...
I'm sure the government also has a plan to go to war against Canada, but I don't see that being enacted anytime soon.
It's one thing for FEMA to clamp down on a natural-disaster emergency like Katrina in an isolated incident, and another thing for the government to clamp down on the entire US in a bid for power. I also think it's unnecessary. Creeping annexation works so much better. It's unlikely that the US will fall to fascism, or anything of the like, in some major cataclysmic unwinding of the democratic institutions. Far more likely is a slow and gradual loss of civil liberties, expanded government control and power, diminished education and political participation, and the undermining of the press and public debate by corporate interests and apathy.
But that's just not as catchy as "Bush is going to take over the US because he doesn't want to leave office", and it doesn't get the average person riled up, as they are apparently too apathetic, non-participatory in politics, desiring of further government control, blase about expanded power and the excesses of capitalism, and generally have poorer education in these matters due to their lack of interest, a failing press, and prior schooling.
So, yeah, no need to worry, the future will be bright and shining so long as Luke Skywalker, Neo, and Donald Trump are there to save us from any villanous schemes.
Edit: I also want to add that I don't think there's necessarily any plan for my proposed "takeover". It's more a 'natural convergence of negative feedback loops and false ideologies' sort of thing. Far more difficult to approach since it's systemic and progressed not by some small elite but by the basic human nature of the populace.
That's more believable than the link the OP postedQuote:
"OH NOES!!! THERE'S EVIL ORCs PLOTTING WORLD DOMINATION!!!"
Plague? what year is this 1411?Quote:
These air tight seal containers would be perfect to bury victims of plague
To be fair, if you plan to kill tons of people, you just stick them all in mass graves. Then again the US does love wasting money. The real conspiracy is probably that they are mass produced and cost 100k each and the deal for which company they hired to make them, was probably illegally given to their buddies.
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There's fully staffed death camps all over the US. People will be put into blue,red and yellow lists. People on the red lists will be killed right away. Blue list people will be subject to bizzarre test and eventually killed. People on the yellow list are low threat citizens.
THUGGERY NO PLACE IN OUR SOCIETY
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(while pointing to the thuggery)
Oh ok that's fair. Yep. Like the holocaust. Fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alric
Close the year is 2008. You've been practicing haven't you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pyrofan1
I have one thing to add, pyrofan...plagues only existed in the 15th century?
I'm pretty sure plagues can happen at any moment or time period.
I know that the plague can come back at any time, but it seems ridiculous to think that it would kill lots of people in this day and with with our anti-biotics.
lol speaking of antibiotics, antibiotics are responsible for the super bugs we have today such as that crazy staff infection which is nearly immune to all forms of treatment.
We are actually in the process of creating far worse plagues then we have ever seen, due to antibiotics.
So in a way, its not crazy to say we might have a plague, viruses mutate all the time, and with the progression of mrsa super bug, who knows what crazy concoction we'll see next. It might even be worse then the bubonic plague.
But I know what you're trying to say.
I have a lot of belief in the acceleration of technological advancement. I think we are on the edge of living in the superscience age. I think we are within thirty years of being able to whip any microbe we come across. Sicknesses/diseases from viruses and bacteria will probably become a thing of the past in our life times, and I think the same goes for cancer.Quote:
Originally Posted by guerilla
Hmm, I don't share such an optimistic view I guess, im a pessimist by nature lol I can't help it.
Isn't that what people in your parents generation said?(Only with robot butlers :?)Quote:
Originally Posted by Universal Mind
Well, we have moved really far in the right direction since then in medical science, but we have seriously screwed up when it comes to the space age lifestyle everybody back then was expecting. Think about the names of old sci-fi movies, like 2001: A Space Odyssey and Space 1999. But I think we are within a few decades of colonizing space. We aren't that far behind the expectations. Space stations for civilians are being built as we speak.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragonoverlord
Anti-biotics will not stop serious epidemics though. Which we are dangerously walking on the edge of. Blu flu etc. Actually all the military industrial complex has to do is probably get some deranged person to release some biological experiment virus they have played around with like Aids, that would probably be much worse than anything previously experienced. That is actually part of their manipulation and in warefare. Aids was something they released which was useful. But there is more lethal and diverse diseases up their sleeve than aids. This is no longer the age of simplicity where nothing is invented and nothing to hide. There is everything to hide and secrecy abounds.Quote:
I know that the plague can come back at any time, but it seems ridiculous to think that it would kill lots of people in this day and with with our anti-biotics.
I read something the other day about scientists being near a cure for HIV, due to a non-mutating part of it a majority of the strains have in common is very vulnerable, don't have a link for you, but saved the base text.
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HOUSTON -- There is real hope that what’s happening in a Houston lab might lead to a cure for HIV.
“We have found an innovative way to kill the virus by finding this small region of HIV that is unchangeable,” Dr. Sudhir Paul of the University of Texas Medical School at Houston said.
Dr. Paul and Dr. Miguel Escobar aren’t talking about just suppressing HIV – they’re talking about destroying it permanently by arming the immune system with a new weapon lab tests have shown to be effective.
Ford Stuart has been HIV positive for 15 years. He’s on a powerful drug cocktail that keeps the disease in check.
“I’m on four different medications. Three of them are brand new, and it’s the first time that I’ve ever been non-detectible,” Stuart said. “I’m down to about – just for the HIV – about nine pills per day, five in the morning and four at night.”
But Stuart knows HIV mutates, and eventually it will learn how to outsmart his medications.
“The virus is truly complex and has many tricks up its sleeve,” Paul said.
But Dr. Paul thinks he’s cracked a code.
“We’ve discovered the weak spot of HIV,” he said.
Paul and his team have zeroed in on a section of a key protein in HIV’s structure that does not mutate.
“The virus needs at least one constant region, and that is the essence of calling it the Achilles heel,” Paul said.
That Achilles heel is the doctors’ way in. They take advantage of it with something called an abzyme.
It’s naturally produced by people, like lupus patients. When they applied that abzyme to the HIV virus, it permanently disarmed it.
“What we already have in our hand are the abzymes that we could be infusing into the human subjects with HIV infection, essentially to move the virus,” Paul said.
Basically, their idea could be used to control the disease for people who already have it and prevent infection for those at risk.
The theory has held up in lab and animal testing. The next step is human trials.
Meanwhile, every day in Houston, three people are diagnosed with HIV.
The doctors still need funding to launch human trials. In the world of HIV research, that’s often where things fall apart.
“Clinical trials are very expensive,” Paul said.
“That is the worry of the researcher. This is what nightmares are made of – that after 30 years of work, you find it doesn’t work,” Paul said.
But so far, it is working.
“This is the holy grail of HIV research, to develop a preventative vaccine,” Paul said.
“If we can get the viral loads down to a manageable level, that will preclude the need for these conventional drugs,” Escobar said.
Still, even if everything goes well, it’s at least five years before the research could help people with HIV.
The doctors know people like Ford Stuart are waiting.
“There are so many people struggling with the disease because it affects not only your body, but also your psyche, how you perceive yourself,” he said.
If nothing else, the research is promising for the tens of millions waiting for a cure.
We haven't been to the moon since 1969. 3 people went to the moon. We still have doubts about the nature of that mission and what happened. We know again they are hiding things. Let alone colonizing space. NASA isn't even a civilian space program. They won't let us have one we have been duped again.Quote:
I think we are within a few decades of colonizing space. We aren't that far behind the expectations.
A cure for things like this and cancer is already discovered. Like I said secrecy abounds and what you see on the news is a fantasy movie filtered down by the military industrial complex designed to get a predictable response so you can accept some hidden agenda. The way the public is manipulated is very obvious. This is what you should be seeing in your lounge room by now.Quote:
read something the other day about scientists being near a cure for HIV
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Considering I rarely watch the news, can I have some links to where you learned about these discoveries that the public has no clue about?Quote:
Originally Posted by Minervas Phoenix
So you can attack the sources or so you can learn? How can you rarely see the news when it's on every day nonstop in papers, radio and pounding it into your head. That is an unrealistic statement unless you live in the forest. It's already got you covered baby. That is why all news is the same from every source. Wow something going on much? Operation mocking bird. Good thing we have the internet so people like me can speak out about their experience and what they know. Go look it up yourself if you really want to be educated. The sources are too vast for me to mention here the important thing is that you go verify after you have been told. That bit is up to you instead of making a cheeky sarcastic comment for sources. If the public doesn't know about it then why are thousands of bloggers like me trying to get the word out. And what do you expect when the public is not informed anyway.
prepare, compare, consider, don't be judgmental, do anything but feed the ego which wants to be RIGHT.
Well I don't know about anyone else but my ego wants other people to be aware and empowered through information.
most people will only look at information when it encroaches on what they take to be their personal belongings.
I have this great information that will change the world. I found out that we can all live forever. But I'm not telling you anything, go spend hours shifting through the internet and find it for yourself based on one random person's unsubstantiated, outlandish claim.
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Don't complain like a ridiculous clown because I'm not spoon feeding you sources to every word I type. First step is research the military industrial complex. Things like Philadelphia Experiment and also the Montauk Project. Opertaion mocking bird. Dark Mission, etc. You will ofcourse come across things which point to advanced technology which has highly significant medical implications along with Anti-gravity magnetism from reverse engineered UFOS which has energy efficient way to totally eliminate the cost of energy production.
But no you would rather sit and cry that you don't have the information. "Boo hoo not fair I want to ignore, and got no platter to throw on the floor :/".
I'll give you a shiny penny for it! No? Aw shucks....:banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by DNK
Minervas, you say you want to empower others through knowledge, yet you wont supply links to your "sources" so we may empower ourselves? Also, i apologize if i'm misinterpreting your words, but your saying there is no way that i don't watch a news station, listen to a news station radio, or read the newspaper? The most news i get on TV is the local weather.
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How can you rarely see the news when it's on every day nonstop in papers, radio and pounding it into your head. That is an unrealistic statement unless you live in the forest.